Guest guest Posted April 2, 2006 Report Share Posted April 2, 2006 In a message dated 4/2/2006 3:30:56 PM Pacific Daylight Time, illusyn writes: > By " leaving a residue " I mean something like: suppose someone says > something or does something that is very upsetting to you and > that *stays with you* for the remainer of the day. Like that. > > In my view one is not in the Now when that happens. > > Bill > L.E: There we go again. Language problem, but I hope my comments were interesting to you and others. Even the " residue " you refer to still depends on memory as I said. There are memories of happy times and upsetting ones but they are still memories not only visual, but feeling memories that as you mention, can be " upsetting " threatening, and inciting desire for future experiences. All depend on memory. The effect of memory can be controlled to some extent by Mantras or other sub-vocal sounds and phrases. In that case, the conscious ego self can insulate itself from the uprising pressures of images and recalled situations. Len doesn't like this approach which he call " suppression. " but if it works to reduce suffering, seem O.K. to me. And, when this happens, you are IN the here and now, but are just not aware or conscious of it until you stop doing that. If you can stop doing that. Everything and everyone is in the here and now. It is not just a state of mind, it is existence itself. That's what IT IS means. Larry Epston Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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