What kept Michael from hurting himself

[Guest guest]

< Um...okay, A) You're working very hard to dismiss the point while

surmising

< that perhaps under different circumstances Michael might have hurt

himself.

< You're awfully sure of yourself for having never experienced what's

being

< discussed. how's about giving it the good ole college try first, then

come back

< and we can discuss from a place of experience rather than ignorance?

 

When I first did my " experiment " , and at other times since then, what

prevented me from " hurting myself " wasn't " suffering " . It was the

conscious intention (intelligence ?) " not to do structural damage " to my

hand. It wasn't a deliberate maschotistic act to see how far I could

take it by dissociating from the pain/sensation. It was to find out for

myself what would take place if I " felt/examined " the sensation with: 1)

thought as complaining commentary and resistance, 2) thought as factual

labeling with no resistance, and 3) no thought/no memory = full

non-strategic attention which automatically obviated complaint,

commentary, and labeling. It's really quite simple.

 

Michael

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 4/3/2006 6:31:08 AM Pacific Daylight Time,

Nisargadatta writes:

 

Sun, 2 Apr 2006 21:59:37 -0700

" Adamson " <adamson

What kept Michael from " hurting himself "

 

 

 

 

< Um...okay, A) You're working very hard to dismiss the point while

surmising

< that perhaps under different circumstances Michael might have hurt

himself.

< You're awfully sure of yourself for having never experienced what's

being

< discussed. how's about giving it the good ole college try first, then

come back

< and we can discuss from a place of experience rather than ignorance?

 

When I first did my " experiment " , and at other times since then, what

prevented me from " hurting myself " wasn't " suffering " . It was the

conscious intention (intelligence ?) " not to do structural damage " to my

hand. It wasn't a deliberate maschotistic act to see how far I could

take it by dissociating from the pain/sensation. It was to find out for

myself what would take place if I " felt/examined " the sensation with: 1)

thought as complaining commentary and resistance, 2) thought as factual

labeling with no resistance, and 3) no thought/no memory = full

non-strategic attention which automatically obviated complaint,

commentary, and labeling. It's really quite simple.

 

Michael

 

 

 

Yes, understood, and it's not that the lessening of suffering somehow made

your hand go numb so that you no longer were aware it was being squeezed. In my

experience, the sensation is different from what the mind does with the

sensation (suffering), and it's not the suffering itself that tells me the body

is in danger. The sensation is still present as it was before.

 

From my perspective, the " full attention " was the release of resistance, and

resistance is struggle.

 

Phil