Guest guest Posted April 6, 2006 Report Share Posted April 6, 2006 " the now " .....a milestone on the path to nothingness " the now " let one " be " ....just " be " .....in deep peace and happiness.....without any specific reason......except to " see " the absurdity of attachments/detachments..... " the now " let one be aware of....that there is nobody to/on which anything could be attached/detached " the now " let one be attached/detached to/from everything the mind could ever imagine " the now " ....just another word of endless other words......flowing into/from/to/above/behind ...nothingness have a nice " now " ..... Marc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 6, 2006 Report Share Posted April 6, 2006 Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " <dennis_travis33 wrote: > > > > " the now " .....a milestone on the path to nothingness > > " the now " let one " be " ....just " be " .....in deep peace and > happiness.....without any specific reason......except to " see " the > absurdity of attachments/detachments..... > > " the now " let one be aware of....that there is nobody to/on which > anything could be attached/detached > > " the now " let one be attached/detached to/from everything the mind > could ever imagine > > " the now " ....just another word of endless other words......flowing > into/from/to/above/behind ...nothingness > > > have a nice " now " ..... LOL!! Like subtle clouds the words above slide through in and out like little wraiths or smoke rings enveloping on another each in turn simply figmentive nothing really like the nothing from which they arise they barely materialize then fade ... Bill > > Marc > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 6, 2006 Report Share Posted April 6, 2006 Nisargadatta , " billrishel " <illusyn wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > > > > > " the now " .....a milestone on the path to nothingness > > > > " the now " let one " be " ....just " be " .....in deep peace and > > happiness.....without any specific reason......except to " see " the > > absurdity of attachments/detachments..... > > > > " the now " let one be aware of....that there is nobody to/on which > > anything could be attached/detached > > > > " the now " let one be attached/detached to/from everything the mind > > could ever imagine > > > > " the now " ....just another word of endless other words......flowing > > into/from/to/above/behind ...nothingness > > > > > > have a nice " now " ..... > > LOL!! > > > Like subtle clouds the words above > slide through > in and out > > like little wraiths > or smoke rings enveloping on another > each in turn > > simply figmentive > nothing really > > like the nothing from which they arise > they barely materialize > > then fade ... > > > > > Bill > > " the now " is only a " moment " to pass.....on the path....thats all Marc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 6, 2006 Report Share Posted April 6, 2006 Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " <dennis_travis33 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " billrishel " <illusyn@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > > <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > " the now " .....a milestone on the path to nothingness > > > > > > " the now " let one " be " ....just " be " .....in deep peace and > > > happiness.....without any specific reason......except to " see " > the > > > absurdity of attachments/detachments..... > > > > > > " the now " let one be aware of....that there is nobody to/on which > > > anything could be attached/detached > > > > > > " the now " let one be attached/detached to/from everything the > mind > > > could ever imagine > > > > > > " the now " ....just another word of endless other > words......flowing > > > into/from/to/above/behind ...nothingness > > > > > > > > > have a nice " now " ..... > > > > LOL!! > > > > > > Like subtle clouds the words above > > slide through > > in and out > > > > like little wraiths > > or smoke rings enveloping on another > > each in turn > > > > simply figmentive > > nothing really > > > > like the nothing from which they arise > > they barely materialize > > > > then fade ... > > > > > > > > > > Bill > > > > > " the now " is only a " moment " to pass.....on the path....thats all > > Marc Ps: i don't think that " the now " let one " remind/have/wish/develop/continue... " great plans.....as for example brushing the teeth " the now " is often " misused " or " misunderstood " as a special " consciousness " .....which let one be/become more independent and free......and so, (continue to) develop freely the most confusing theories and concepts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 6, 2006 Report Share Posted April 6, 2006 Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " <dennis_travis33 wrote: > > > > " the now " .....a milestone on the path to nothingness > > " the now " let one " be " ....just " be " .....in deep peace and > happiness.....without any specific reason......except to " see " the > absurdity of attachments/detachments..... > > " the now " let one be aware of....that there is nobody to/on which > anything could be attached/detached > > " the now " let one be attached/detached to/from everything the mind > could ever imagine > > " the now " ....just another word of endless other words......flowing > into/from/to/above/behind ...nothingness > > > have a nice " now " ..... > > Marc > The nothingness of " the now " ..that's Nothing marc. LOL Very Nice friend! .....bob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 6, 2006 Report Share Posted April 6, 2006 Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " <dennis_travis33 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " billrishel " <illusyn@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > > <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > " the now " .....a milestone on the path to nothingness > > > > > > " the now " let one " be " ....just " be " .....in deep peace and > > > happiness.....without any specific reason......except to " see " > the > > > absurdity of attachments/detachments..... > > > > > > " the now " let one be aware of....that there is nobody to/on which > > > anything could be attached/detached > > > > > > " the now " let one be attached/detached to/from everything the > mind > > > could ever imagine > > > > > > " the now " ....just another word of endless other > words......flowing > > > into/from/to/above/behind ...nothingness > > > > > > > > > have a nice " now " ..... > > > > LOL!! > > > > > > Like subtle clouds the words above > > slide through > > in and out > > > > like little wraiths > > or smoke rings enveloping on another > > each in turn > > > > simply figmentive > > nothing really > > > > like the nothing from which they arise > > they barely materialize > > > > then fade ... > > > > > > > > > > Bill > > > > > " the now " is only a " moment " to pass.....on the path....thats all > > Marc > no Marc no No NO! Now-not-a-moment a moment is a bit of time there is no such thing as a bit of Now If I say " in the moment " I don't mean *in a bit of time*. " In the moment " is intended as a figurative expression and not meant to be read as literally referring to a " little bit of time " . Bill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 6, 2006 Report Share Posted April 6, 2006 --- billrishel <illusyn a écrit : Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " <dennis_travis33 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " billrishel " <illusyn@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > > <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > " the now " .....a milestone on the path to nothingness > > > > > > " the now " let one " be " ....just " be " .....in deep peace and > > > happiness.....without any specific reason......except to " see " > the > > > absurdity of attachments/detachments..... > > > > > > " the now " let one be aware of....that there is nobody to/on which > > > anything could be attached/detached > > > > > > " the now " let one be attached/detached to/from everything the > mind > > > could ever imagine > > > > > > " the now " ....just another word of endless other > words......flowing > > > into/from/to/above/behind ...nothingness > > > > > > > > > have a nice " now " ..... > > > > LOL!! > > > > > > Like subtle clouds the words above > > slide through > > in and out > > > > like little wraiths > > or smoke rings enveloping on another > > each in turn > > > > simply figmentive > > nothing really > > > > like the nothing from which they arise > > they barely materialize > > > > then fade ... > > > > > > > > > > Bill > > > > > " the now " is only a " moment " to pass.....on the path....thats all > > Marc > no Marc no No NO! Now-not-a-moment a moment is a bit of time there is no such thing as a bit of Now If I say " in the moment " I don't mean *in a bit of time*. " In the moment " is intended as a figurative expression and not meant to be read as literally referring to a " little bit of time " . Bill can`t explain Now to mind. Mind dissecate and Now is so ..full and One and ...Whole.. it is All there is.. and I get a good vertigo trying to explain what I just said couldn`t be explained. ...Shut up, hum your favorite song, go outside, put your nose up, can you beleive how blue the sky is today? :-) Patricia ** If you do not wish to receive individual emails, to change your subscription, sign in with your ID and go to Edit My Groups: /mygroups?edit=1 Under the Message Delivery option, choose " No Email " for the Nisargadatta group and click on Save Changes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 6, 2006 Report Share Posted April 6, 2006 Nisargadatta , OConnor Patricia <gdtige wrote: > > > --- billrishel <illusyn a écrit : > > > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " billrishel " > <illusyn@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , > " dennis_travis33 " > > > <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " the now " .....a milestone on the path to > nothingness > > > > > > > > " the now " let one " be " ....just " be " .....in deep > peace and > > > > happiness.....without any specific > reason......except to " see " > > the > > > > absurdity of attachments/detachments..... > > > > > > > > " the now " let one be aware of....that there is > nobody to/on which > > > > anything could be attached/detached > > > > > > > > " the now " let one be attached/detached to/from > everything the > > mind > > > > could ever imagine > > > > > > > > " the now " ....just another word of endless other > > > words......flowing > > > > into/from/to/above/behind ...nothingness > > > > > > > > > > > > have a nice " now " ..... > > > > > > LOL!! > > > > > > > > > Like subtle clouds the words above > > > slide through > > > in and out > > > > > > like little wraiths > > > or smoke rings enveloping on another > > > each in turn > > > > > > simply figmentive > > > nothing really > > > > > > like the nothing from which they arise > > > they barely materialize > > > > > > then fade ... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bill > > > > > > > > " the now " is only a " moment " to pass.....on the > path....thats all > > > > Marc > > > > no Marc > no No NO! > > Now-not-a-moment > a moment is a bit of time > there is no such thing as a bit of Now > > If I say " in the moment " I don't mean *in > a bit of time*. " In the moment " is intended > as a figurative expression and not meant > to be read as literally referring to a > " little bit of time " . > > > Bill > > can`t explain Now to mind. Mind dissecate and Now is > so ..full and One and ...Whole.. > it is All there is.. > and I get a good vertigo trying to explain what I just > said couldn`t be explained. > ..Shut up, hum your favorite song, go outside, put > your nose up, can you beleive how blue the sky is > today? > :-) > > Patricia > Thank you! I needed that. I'll go work on my new mantra: Whereof we cannot speak, thereof we must remain silent. Hmmm... now that you mention it, the sky *is* blue! Wow........ Bill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 7, 2006 Report Share Posted April 7, 2006 Nisargadatta , " billrishel " <illusyn wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " billrishel " <illusyn@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > > > <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " the now " .....a milestone on the path to nothingness > > > > > > > > " the now " let one " be " ....just " be " .....in deep peace and > > > > happiness.....without any specific reason......except to " see " > > the > > > > absurdity of attachments/detachments..... > > > > > > > > " the now " let one be aware of....that there is nobody to/on which > > > > anything could be attached/detached > > > > > > > > " the now " let one be attached/detached to/from everything the > > mind > > > > could ever imagine > > > > > > > > " the now " ....just another word of endless other > > words......flowing > > > > into/from/to/above/behind ...nothingness > > > > > > > > > > > > have a nice " now " ..... > > > > > > LOL!! > > > > > > > > > Like subtle clouds the words above > > > slide through > > > in and out > > > > > > like little wraiths > > > or smoke rings enveloping on another > > > each in turn > > > > > > simply figmentive > > > nothing really > > > > > > like the nothing from which they arise > > > they barely materialize > > > > > > then fade ... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bill > > > > > > > > " the now " is only a " moment " to pass.....on the path....thats all > > > > Marc > > > > no Marc > no No NO! > > Now-not-a-moment > a moment is a bit of time > there is no such thing as a bit of Now > > If I say " in the moment " I don't mean *in > a bit of time*. " In the moment " is intended > as a figurative expression and not meant > to be read as literally referring to a > " little bit of time " . > > > Bill there is no " moment " on which " the now " could disappear...... true.... " the now " is timeless.....so it has nothing realy to do with " a moment " .... " the now " even has nothing realy to do with a working " body-mind- intellect " ......means, with this time and space related body writing this words.... Marc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 7, 2006 Report Share Posted April 7, 2006 Nisargadatta , " Bob N. " <Roberibus111 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > > > > > " the now " .....a milestone on the path to nothingness > > > > " the now " let one " be " ....just " be " .....in deep peace and > > happiness.....without any specific reason......except to " see " the > > absurdity of attachments/detachments..... > > > > " the now " let one be aware of....that there is nobody to/on which > > anything could be attached/detached > > > > " the now " let one be attached/detached to/from everything the mind > > could ever imagine > > > > " the now " ....just another word of endless other words......flowing > > into/from/to/above/behind ...nothingness > > > > > > have a nice " now " ..... > > > > Marc > > > The nothingness of " the now " ..that's Nothing marc. LOL > Very Nice friend! > .....bob if one miss (to live) " the now " ......then there are appearing " others " who miss (to live) " the now " too if one (live) " the now " ......there is nobody appearing ... " who " could miss it Marc Ps: will brush the teeth now.....i think it's the right time to brush the teeth.....now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 7, 2006 Report Share Posted April 7, 2006 if one miss (to live) " the now " ......then there are appearing " others " who miss (to live) " the now " too if one (live) " the now " ......there is nobody appearing ... " who " could miss it ~~~~~~~ If there is a door into Now, then it is a door that no-one goes through! Bill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 7, 2006 Report Share Posted April 7, 2006 Nisargadatta , " billrishel " <illusyn wrote: > > if one miss (to live) " the now " ......then there are > appearing " others " who miss (to live) " the now " too > > if one (live) " the now " ......there is nobody appearing ... " who " could > miss it > > ~~~~~~~ > > If there is a door into Now, > then it is a door that no-one goes through! > > Bill > that's why i like doors! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 7, 2006 Report Share Posted April 7, 2006 Nisargadatta , " billrishel " <illusyn wrote: > > if one miss (to live) " the now " ......then there are > appearing " others " who miss (to live) " the now " too > > if one (live) " the now " ......there is nobody appearing ... " who " could > miss it > > ~~~~~~~ > > If there is a door into Now, > then it is a door that no-one goes through! > > Bill yes!... Marc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 7, 2006 Report Share Posted April 7, 2006 Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " <dennis_travis33 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " billrishel " <illusyn@> wrote: > > > > if one miss (to live) " the now " ......then there are > > appearing " others " who miss (to live) " the now " too > > > > if one (live) " the now " ......there is nobody appearing ... " who " > could > > miss it > > > > ~~~~~~~ > > > > If there is a door into Now, > > then it is a door that no-one goes through! > > > > Bill > > yes!... > > > > Marc Ps: seem that there is similar view on a deep point....means, of deep nothingness..... good > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 7, 2006 Report Share Posted April 7, 2006 Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " <dennis_travis33 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " billrishel " <illusyn@> wrote: > > > > > > if one miss (to live) " the now " ......then there are > > > appearing " others " who miss (to live) " the now " too > > > > > > if one (live) " the now " ......there is nobody appearing ... " who " > > could > > > miss it > > > > > > ~~~~~~~ > > > > > > If there is a door into Now, > > > then it is a door that no-one goes through! > > > > > > Bill > > > > yes!... > > > > > > > > Marc > > Ps: seem that there is similar view on a deep point....means, of deep > nothingness..... > good > > > Most likely not a similar view, but more rather expressions emanating from a similar (ultimately same?) not-anywhere-ness. Bill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 7, 2006 Report Share Posted April 7, 2006 Nisargadatta , " bigwaaba " <bigwaaba wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " billrishel " <illusyn@> wrote: > > > > if one miss (to live) " the now " ......then there are > > appearing " others " who miss (to live) " the now " too > > > > if one (live) " the now " ......there is nobody appearing ... " who " could > > miss it > > > > ~~~~~~~ > > > > If there is a door into Now, > > then it is a door that no-one goes through! > > > > Bill > > > > that's why i like doors! > Is this a fetish of yours? I've heard of people being into the handle, but never the door itself... (LOL) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 7, 2006 Report Share Posted April 7, 2006 Nisargadatta , " billrishel " <illusyn wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > > <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " billrishel " <illusyn@> > wrote: > > > > > > > > if one miss (to live) " the now " ......then there are > > > > appearing " others " who miss (to live) " the now " too > > > > > > > > if one (live) " the now " ......there is nobody appearing ... " who " > > > could > > > > miss it > > > > > > > > ~~~~~~~ > > > > > > > > If there is a door into Now, > > > > then it is a door that no-one goes through! > > > > > > > > Bill > > > > > > yes!... > > > > > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > Ps: seem that there is similar view on a deep point....means, of > deep > > nothingness..... > > good > > > > > > > Most likely not a similar view, but more rather > expressions emanating from a similar (ultimately > same?) not-anywhere-ness. > > Bill yes....ok....exactly Marc > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 7, 2006 Report Share Posted April 7, 2006 In a message dated 4/7/2006 2:24:54 AM Pacific Daylight Time, illusyn writes: > If there is a door into Now, > then it is a door that no-one goes through! > > Bill L.E: I left myself at the door to the now, And never noticed it was gone. Larry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 7, 2006 Report Share Posted April 7, 2006 In a message dated 4/7/2006 12:27:54 AM Pacific Daylight Time, dennis_travis33 writes: > Like subtle clouds the words above > >>> slide through > >>> in and out > >>> > >>>like little wraiths > >>>or smoke rings enveloping on another > >>>each in turn > >>> > >>>simply figmentive > >>>nothing really > >>> > >>>like the nothing from which they arise > >>>they barely materialize > >>> > >>>then fade ... > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>>Bill > >>> > L.E: And so it is with all that exists, It comes, It goes, Arising, fading Here it is and now it is gone No one notices. There is nothing to see. Larry E Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 7, 2006 Report Share Posted April 7, 2006 In a message dated 4/7/2006 2:55:32 AM Pacific Daylight Time, Nisargadatta writes: Fri, 07 Apr 2006 07:25:15 -0000 " dennis_travis33 " <dennis_travis33 Re: the nothingness of " the now " Nisargadatta , " billrishel " <illusyn wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " billrishel " <illusyn@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > > > <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " the now " .....a milestone on the path to nothingness > > > > > > > > " the now " let one " be " ....just " be " .....in deep peace and > > > > happiness.....without any specific reason......except to " see " > > the > > > > absurdity of attachments/detachments..... > > > > > > > > " the now " let one be aware of....that there is nobody to/on which > > > > anything could be attached/detached > > > > > > > > " the now " let one be attached/detached to/from everything the > > mind > > > > could ever imagine > > > > > > > > " the now " ....just another word of endless other > > words......flowing > > > > into/from/to/above/behind ...nothingness > > > > > > > > > > > > have a nice " now " ..... > > > > > > LOL!! > > > > > > > > > Like subtle clouds the words above > > > slide through > > > in and out > > > > > > like little wraiths > > > or smoke rings enveloping on another > > > each in turn > > > > > > simply figmentive > > > nothing really > > > > > > like the nothing from which they arise > > > they barely materialize > > > > > > then fade ... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bill > > > > > > > > " the now " is only a " moment " to pass.....on the path....thats all > > > > Marc > > > > no Marc > no No NO! > > Now-not-a-moment > a moment is a bit of time > there is no such thing as a bit of Now > > If I say " in the moment " I don't mean *in > a bit of time*. " In the moment " is intended > as a figurative expression and not meant > to be read as literally referring to a > " little bit of time " . > > > Bill there is no " moment " on which " the now " could disappear...... true.... " the now " is timeless.....so it has nothing realy to do with " a moment " .... " the now " even has nothing realy to do with a working " body-mind- intellect " ......means, with this time and space related body writing this words.... Marc You're both saying the same thing but disagreeing. I wonder if that feels strange to either of you. Hehe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 7, 2006 Report Share Posted April 7, 2006 Nisargadatta , epston wrote: > > In a message dated 4/7/2006 12:27:54 AM Pacific Daylight Time, > dennis_travis33 writes: > > > Like subtle clouds the words above > > >>> slide through > > >>> in and out > > >>> > > >>>like little wraiths > > >>>or smoke rings enveloping on another > > >>>each in turn > > >>> > > >>>simply figmentive > > >>>nothing really > > >>> > > >>>like the nothing from which they arise > > >>>they barely materialize > > >>> > > >>>then fade ... > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>>Bill > > >>> > > > > L.E: And so it is with all that exists, > It comes, > It goes, > Arising, fading > Here it is and now it is gone > No one notices. > There is nothing to see. > > Larry E > OK I see that Larry..but I can't see what you mean. There's just nothing there. ........bob > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 7, 2006 Report Share Posted April 7, 2006 --- epston a écrit : In a message dated 4/7/2006 12:27:54 AM Pacific Daylight Time, dennis_travis33 writes: > Like subtle clouds the words above > >>> slide through > >>> in and out > >>> > >>>like little wraiths > >>>or smoke rings enveloping on another > >>>each in turn > >>> > >>>simply figmentive > >>>nothing really > >>> > >>>like the nothing from which they arise > >>>they barely materialize > >>> > >>>then fade ... > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>>Bill > >>> > L.E: And so it is with all that exists, It comes, It goes, Arising, fading Here it is and now it is gone No one notices. There is nothing to see. Larry E oh but before it fades, it shines. and that`s what is Most attaching. Rising, shinning, fading...and again... Patricia Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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