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Wherever and whenever you use concepts which appeal to you or repulse

you, for the purpose of stimulating something within or to evoke

something within someone else..you are half dead. You are in the

service of a collaboration with a special schooling to be conditioned

by others.

.....bob

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In a message dated 4/7/2006 9:33:59 AM Pacific Daylight Time,

Nisargadatta writes:

 

Fri, 07 Apr 2006 14:09:40 -0000

" Bob N. " <Roberibus111

Useful Thinking

 

Wherever and whenever you use concepts which appeal to you or repulse

you, for the purpose of stimulating something within or to evoke

something within someone else..you are half dead. You are in the

service of a collaboration with a special schooling to be conditioned

by others.

......bob

 

 

 

 

Yes, the only good reason to explore a concept is for the possibility of

peeking behind the curtain that marks the boundary of awareness that this

concept creates. There is no possibility of seeing anything new that is not

already

in the mind if all that is done is to reorganize the contents of mind. This

is just feeding the gerbil who runs in circles and goes nowhere.

 

There's a source beyond mind. That's where the foolish notions came from to

begin with. The least that can be done is to trade them for less foolish

notions.

 

Phil

 

 

 

 

 

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In a message dated 4/7/2006 8:01:02 PM Pacific Daylight Time, ADHHUB

writes:

 

> There's a source beyond mind. That's where the foolish notions came from to

>

> begin with. The least that can be done is to trade them for less foolish

> notions.

>

> Phil

>

 

L.E; There is no source beyond the mind. The mind is the source of the self.

The brain is not a source yet the mind rises out of it. Foolish notions

comes from the self, not the mind, and not the brain. They can never be traded,

for the new will be worse than the old. The self does the best it can, yet is

constantly bumping into situations it cannot predect.

 

Larry Epston

 

 

 

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In a message dated 4/8/2006 4:37:15 AM Pacific Daylight Time,

Nisargadatta writes:

 

Fri, 7 Apr 2006 23:30:03 EDT

epston

Re: Useful Thinking

 

In a message dated 4/7/2006 8:01:02 PM Pacific Daylight Time, ADHHUB

writes:

 

> There's a source beyond mind. That's where the foolish notions came from

to

>

> begin with. The least that can be done is to trade them for less foolish

> notions.

>

> Phil

>

 

L.E; There is no source beyond the mind. The mind is the source of the

self.

The brain is not a source yet the mind rises out of it. Foolish notions

comes from the self, not the mind, and not the brain. They can never be

traded,

for the new will be worse than the old. The self does the best it can, yet

is

constantly bumping into situations it cannot predect.

 

Larry Epston

 

 

 

The mind rises out of the physical brain and there is nothing more? Where

does the one consciousness fit into this? What I mean by " mind " is the apparent

mental processing that seems to go on in the human. An enormous amount of

time can be spent reorganizing and regurgitating the contents of mind, but

nothing new will really come of it since all of it was already present in memory

to begin with.

 

There is the possibility of leaving memory alone and noticing something new

that was not already present. This happens by looking elsewhere in

consciousness itself (Not human consciousness). This is sometimes referred to

as

intuition. It's the same thing that occurs when a scientist works for hours

trying

to solve a problem, then stops to rest, and when the mind rests, the answer is

found beyond the mind in consciousness itself. This results in the 'AHA!'

moment. Mind/ego will immediately take credit for it, but it didn't come from

mind.

 

 

 

 

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