What is unconditioned attention? (((There Is No Me

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Nisargadatta , " lissbon2002 " <lissbon2002

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> Nisargadatta , " billrishel " <illusyn@>

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> > Filters (the things other people have but we don't

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> > So how to live without " our well-ordered world " ?

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> > Which is the question: Can experience be unconditioned?

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> > It seems to come back to the question of attention.

> > Experience is unconditioned only if attention is unconditioned.

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> > But unconditioned attention seems hard to define...

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> > Can anyone tell us what unconditioned attention is?

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> > Bill

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> Hmmm... maybe this is just too ambitious.

> To talk about unconditioned attention is somehow to want the

> attention to be unconditioned, which means that we put a condition

> to attention, namely: it must be unconditioned ;-)

 

You are inferring a " prescription " from a description.

To say the attention is unconditioned does not mean that

to practice that means to endeavor to be unconditioned

with attention. You are right, there is no way to *try*

to have unconditioned attention.

 

Whatever is significant nondual-wise, it seems, must be

addressed negatively, which is what neti-neti (not-this

not-that) is all about.

> To me attention starts gently, through watching whetever is asking

> for attention, then letting it enlarge itself naturally to see,

> hear, smell, to feel the body sensations, tensions, to feel the

> sensations flowing through the body, to watch some particular

> thoughts and the whole movement of thought...

 

That is an excellent recommendation... no expectations.

Unconditioned attention is not an ideal to be attained,

but the eventual outcome of letting go of all expectations

for attainment.

 

It strikes me just now that the saying " just be " is not

enough. Something needs to be added to that, as in:

" Just be alert, attentive. Nothing more. Nothing less. "

 

 

Bill

 

 

 

 

> Len

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