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----- Message d'origine ----

De : epston

À : Nisargadatta

Envoyé le : Dimanche, 9 Avril 2006, 9h59mn 15s

Objet : Constructive Contradiction

 

In a message dated 4/9/2006 8:28:59 AM Pacific Daylight Time, gdtige

writes:

 

>

> Nisargadatta , OConnor Patricia

> <gdtige

> wrote:

> >

> >--- lissbon2002 <lissbon2002 a écrit :

> >

> >

> >

> >Nisargadatta , OConnor

> Patricia

> ><gdtige@>

 

> >wrote:

>

> sometimes isn`t a good time to face anything.

> One is ran down, tired, annoyed and doesn`t have

> the energy to be in the " Now " .

> >

> >

> Welcome to reality, Patricia.

> >This is what needs to be understood, not your myth

> of

> >the " Now " .

> >The " Now " is a thought which you owe to your

> >conditioning with too

> >much " spirituality " .

> >I hope you will stay tired and annoyed for a long

> >time, and give

> >yourself a chance to learn about it.

> >

> >Len

> >

> >Sorry if I posted a contradiction.

> ><Now >isn`t a myth unless there has never been a

> sense

> >of it.

> > Now is palpable.

> >There is nothing more real than that, it entirely

> >permeates if you pay complete attention.

> >

> >

> >Patricia

>

>

> You are dreaming away because you are not interested

> in

> understanding yourself.

>

> Len

>

> dreaming is a state of being, as well as thinking,

> feeling, desiring...

> when paying infinitisimal attention, without object,

> there is no more room for a state of being. no more

> room for creation,

> no more seeing or understanding or evaluating ...

> When not using your mind or body for any purpose or in

> any direction, there is what has always been and

> always will be :Reality.

> Understanding myself can only come from There.

>

> Patricia

>

L.E: Once you have lived in the moment, the here and now, and felt the

freshness and vitality and creativity as life itself, even when you are tired

and

can't be directly experiencing or being in it, you can recognize that you are

still and always are in it, the flow of life, and be comforted, and that you

will feel it more intensely as you recover your personal engergy. Like when

you have known the pulse and power of the ocean and have been bobbing in it and

are carried away in it and taste its saltiness and feel its character, and

then you have to move away inland, but you remember that the ocean is still

there

in all of its energy even tho you are not in direct contact with it, the

memory has some power left in it. Don't let Len bother you. He is intensely

negative and a skeptic in nature and only sees his own view of things as real.

He

is convinced it is possible to understand yourself by picking away at the edges

of his thinking, but you can't understand yourself, you can only be yourself,

and by letting all that go, which he refuses to do, the self will disappear

and rise again restored and refreshed. Just relax, don't worry about it. I

agree with what you write about reality. You are doing fine. No problem.

 

Larry Epston

 

Thank-you.

P

 

 

 

 

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