Guest guest Posted April 10, 2006 Report Share Posted April 10, 2006 Nisargadatta , " billrishel " <illusyn wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " lissbon2002 " <lissbon2002@> > wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , OConnor Patricia <gdtige@> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Message d'origine ---- > > > De : lissbon2002 <lissbon2002@> > > > À : Nisargadatta > > > Envoyé le : Dimanche, 9 Avril 2006, 3h19mn 58s > > > Objet : Re: constructive contradiction > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " billrishel " <illusyn@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , OConnor Patricia <gdtige@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > --- lissbon2002 <lissbon2002@> a écrit : > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , OConnor Patricia > > > > > <gdtige@> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > --- lissbon2002 <lissbon2002@> a écrit : > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , OConnor > > > > > Patricia > > > > > > <gdtige@> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sometimes isn`t a good time to face anything. > > > > > > > One is ran down, tired, annoyed and doesn`t have > > > > > the > > > > > > > energy to be in the " Now " . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Welcome to reality, Patricia. > > > > > > This is what needs to be understood, not your myth > > > > > of > > > > > > the " Now " . > > > > > > The " Now " is a thought which you owe to your > > > > > > conditioning with too > > > > > > much " spirituality " . > > > > > > I hope you will stay tired and annoyed for a long > > > > > > time, and give > > > > > > yourself a chance to learn about it. > > > > > > > > > > > > Len > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sorry if I posted a contradiction. > > > > > > <Now >isn`t a myth unless there has never been a > > > > > sense > > > > > > of it. > > > > > > Now is palpable. > > > > > > There is nothing more real than that, it entirely > > > > > > permeates if you pay complete attention. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Patricia > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You are dreaming away because you are not interested > > > > > in > > > > > understanding yourself. > > > > > > > > > > Len > > > > > > > > > > dreaming is a state of being, as well as thinking, > > > > > feeling, desiring... > > > > > when paying infinitisimal attention, without object, > > > > > there is no more room for a state of being. no more > > > > > room for creation, > > > > > no more seeing or understanding or evaluating ... > > > > > When not using your mind or body for any purpose or in > > > > > any direction, there is what has always been and > > > > > always will be :Reality. > > > > > Understanding myself can only come from There. > > > > > > > > > > Patricia > > > > > > > > > > > > > perfect > > > > > > > > > > > > Bill > > > > > > > > > A perfect dream, Bill. > > > Your reality is far from perfect. > > > > > > Len > > > Sometimes, letting boredom take its course brings to wonderful > > results: like openess, and loss of bitterness. > > > Patricia > > > > > > > > You confuse honesty and sense of reality with bitterness, Patricia. > > Bitterness is being stuck in negative conditioning, sense of reality > > is being aware of facts, whether they please you or not. > > Reality are your emotions of every day, your clinging to images, > > your fear and longing for security. And because you don´t want it, > > you follow a dream. > > When you have the courage to see the facts how they are, pleasant or > > not, when you deal with them and don´t escape into your dreams - > > there is beauty of a completely different kind. > > No use to talk about it, no use to dream about it, no use to try to > > get there, it is only accessible to those who aren´t affraid to see > > themeselves as they are. > > > > Len > > > > Facts are what we see for ourselves. > Facts are not what we see for other people. > > Bill Facts are facts. Images are images. What most people think to see for themselves are images. That´s a fact ;-) Len Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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