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Nisargadatta , OConnor Patricia <gdtige

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> > > > > > sometimes isn`t a good time to face anything.

> > > > > > One is ran down, tired, annoyed and doesn`t have

> > > > the

> > > > > > energy to be in the " Now " .

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> > > > > Welcome to reality, Patricia.

> > > > > This is what needs to be understood, not your myth

> > > > of

> > > > > the " Now " .

> > > > > The " Now " is a thought which you owe to your

> > > > > conditioning with too

> > > > > much " spirituality " .

> > > > > I hope you will stay tired and annoyed for a long

> > > > > time, and give

> > > > > yourself a chance to learn about it.

> > > > >

> > > > > Len

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> > > > >

> > > > > Sorry if I posted a contradiction.

> > > > > <Now >isn`t a myth unless there has never been a

> > > > sense

> > > > > of it.

> > > > > Now is palpable.

> > > > > There is nothing more real than that, it entirely

> > > > > permeates if you pay complete attention.

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> > > > >

> > > > > Patricia

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> > > >

> > > > You are dreaming away because you are not interested

> > > > in

> > > > understanding yourself.

> > > >

> > > > Len

> > > >

> > > > dreaming is a state of being, as well as thinking,

> > > > feeling, desiring...

> > > > when paying infinitisimal attention, without object,

> > > > there is no more room for a state of being. no more

> > > > room for creation,

> > > > no more seeing or understanding or evaluating ...

> > > > When not using your mind or body for any purpose or in

> > > > any direction, there is what has always been and

> > > > always will be :Reality.

> > > > Understanding myself can only come from There.

> > > >

> > > > Patricia

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> > > perfect

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> > > Bill

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> > A perfect dream, Bill.

> > Your reality is far from perfect.

> >

> > Len

> > Sometimes, letting boredom take its course brings to wonderful

> results: like openess, and loss of bitterness.

> > Patricia

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> You confuse honesty and sense of reality with bitterness, Patricia.

> Bitterness is being stuck in negative conditioning, sense of

reality

> is being aware of facts, whether they please you or not.

> Reality are your emotions of every day, your clinging to images,

> your fear and longing for security. And because you don´t want it,

> you follow a dream.

> When you have the courage to see the facts how they are, pleasant

or

> not, when you deal with them and don´t escape into your dreams -

> there is beauty of a completely different kind.

> No use to talk about it, no use to dream about it, no use to try

to

> get there, it is only accessible to those who aren´t affraid to

see

> themeselves as they are.

>

> Len

> You are describing your sense of reality, you aren`t describing

Reality. You cannot describe that.

> You are describing our day to day state of beings, always

changeable, that cannot be what is real. What is changeable cannot

be real.

> I`ve never felt part of my state of beings, because they change

all the time.

> And I, who I really AM doesn`t.

> Plurality and diversity and changes are play of the mind only.

> And when all search ends, you are back to where you come from.

> And it cannot be denied because IT IS while merely all happens.

>

> Patricia

 

 

 

Your day to day state is the only thing you can rely on.

The rest is wishful thinking. What you think to see is your

imagination. To many spiritual books, Patricia.

 

Len

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