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The best advice that I heard from a

teacher on these issues was from Byron

Katie! When replying to someone who

complained of not being loved by his

parents, Katie said:

 

How do you know, your parents should

NOT have loved you? ...Because, they

didn't!

 

When replying to someone whose husband

was a womanizer and slept with other

woman, Katie said:

 

How do you know that your husband

SHOULD sleep with other women?

...because, he Does!!!*

 

 

She further says:

 

--------- Reality is my God because it

RULES!

 

--------- I am a Lover of Reality!

 

--------- When you fight with Reality,

you lose... but, only 100% of the times!

 

--------- How do I know I don't need

your approval... because, I don't have

it!

 

--------- How do I know that I need

your approval when I have it...

because, I already have it!

 

 

The way I understand it is we NEVER

really get to " choose " Reality! But,

with some awareness and presence... we

do get to choose our *relationship*

with it!

 

There is one kind of *relationship*

that we choose... that brings us peace!

 

There is another that creates More

Pain and Suffering!

 

Neither can really change that which

has ALREADY happened! Yet, our

*thinking* about what has already

happened can [and DOES] greatly change

our Present Moment Reality that we

experience Now!

 

 

Second thing that I learnt from this

is...

 

many times, our *suffering* is caused

by thoughts like... *he shouldn't have

done it*, *she shouldn't do it*, *they

shouldn't have done it*!

 

But, the reality is THAT we don't

really get to *think* and make decision

for *others*! He, she, they... do

whatever they do irrespective of what I

*think* that they, he, she *should*

have done [or, should do]!

 

*Thinking for others* doesn't really

work and in words of Katie, doesn't

leave ANYBODY *HOME* to think about...

*what I should do*, *what I would like

to do*, *what I would love to do NOW*,

*what I would enjoy doing now*, *what I

would choose to do NOW*!

 

When I ask these questions... I find

out that I wouldn't really like to

spend my time *thinking* what *others*

should or should NOT have done...

[because, in reality, others ONLY do

what they do irrespective of what I

think they should do [or should have

done]]!

 

When I ask these questions... I find

out I will rather spend my time doing

what I like, enjoy, love doing NOW and

let others *think* what they think, do

what they do...

 

Sometimes... I might find it necessary to do

something that involves others such as

spending time with a person I greatly

enjoy spending time with or divorcing

someone whom I find careless,

irresponsible and quarrelsome or ...

filing a case [or do whatever else I find

needed] against someone whom I

find criminal...

 

 

yet, I do it because... I know this is

what *I* *SHOULD* be doing...

 

and, I understand that what they do or

*have done* is strictly *their* business!

 

 

I ONLY focus on doing what I think...

*I should be doing*!

 

 

and, that lets EVERYONE live their

own life and be responsible for their

own *thoughts* and actions!

 

I am NOT going to *waste* my own time

*thinking* what someone else *should*

be doing or *should have* done!

 

That is NONE of my business...

and, doing that ONLY creates pain!

 

 

I would rather be *Free* and just think

*what I should be doing* and focus ONLY

on doing *what I should be doing*!

 

 

 

----

 

*Now, if you want to live with someone

who is monogamous and only sleeps with

his wife... you can choose to marry a

different person. But, doing that doesn’t

need to be based on the FIGHT with the

*Reality* which is *already* the case!

 

You can love the man and feel happy that

he is doing what he *should* be doing [and

possibly, is doing what makes him happy] and yet,

choose to leave him and live with a man

who is monogamous because, you know...

that is what you *should* be doing!

 

 

 

 

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Nisargadatta , Adithya K <adithya_comming

wrote:

>

> ...

>

> The best advice that I heard from a

> teacher on these issues was from Byron

> Katie! When replying to someone who

> complained of not being loved by his

> parents, Katie said:

>

> How do you know, your parents should

> NOT have loved you? ...Because, they

> didn't!

>

> When replying to someone whose husband

> was a womanizer and slept with other

> woman, Katie said:

>

> How do you know that your husband

> SHOULD sleep with other women?

> ...because, he Does!!!*

>

>

> She further says:

>

> --------- Reality is my God because it

> RULES!

>

> --------- I am a Lover of Reality!

>

> --------- When you fight with Reality,

> you lose... but, only 100% of the times!

>

> --------- How do I know I don't need

> your approval... because, I don't have

> it!

>

> --------- How do I know that I need

> your approval when I have it...

> because, I already have it!

>

>

> The way I understand it is we NEVER

> really get to " choose " Reality! But,

> with some awareness and presence... we

> do get to choose our *relationship*

> with it!

>

> There is one kind of *relationship*

> that we choose... that brings us peace!

>

> There is another that creates More

> Pain and Suffering!

>

> Neither can really change that which

> has ALREADY happened! Yet, our

> *thinking* about what has already

> happened can [and DOES] greatly change

> our Present Moment Reality that we

> experience Now!

>

>

> Second thing that I learnt from this

> is...

>

> many times, our *suffering* is caused

> by thoughts like... *he shouldn't have

> done it*, *she shouldn't do it*, *they

> shouldn't have done it*!

>

> But, the reality is THAT we don't

> really get to *think* and make decision

> for *others*! He, she, they... do

> whatever they do irrespective of what I

> *think* that they, he, she *should*

> have done [or, should do]!

>

> *Thinking for others* doesn't really

> work and in words of Katie, doesn't

> leave ANYBODY *HOME* to think about...

> *what I should do*, *what I would like

> to do*, *what I would love to do NOW*,

> *what I would enjoy doing now*, *what I

> would choose to do NOW*!

>

> When I ask these questions... I find

> out that I wouldn't really like to

> spend my time *thinking* what *others*

> should or should NOT have done...

> [because, in reality, others ONLY do

> what they do irrespective of what I

> think they should do [or should have

> done]]!

>

> When I ask these questions... I find

> out I will rather spend my time doing

> what I like, enjoy, love doing NOW and

> let others *think* what they think, do

> what they do...

>

> Sometimes... I might find it necessary to do

> something that involves others such as

> spending time with a person I greatly

> enjoy spending time with or divorcing

> someone whom I find careless,

> irresponsible and quarrelsome or ...

> filing a case [or do whatever else I find

> needed] against someone whom I

> find criminal...

>

>

> yet, I do it because... I know this is

> what *I* *SHOULD* be doing...

>

> and, I understand that what they do or

> *have done* is strictly *their* business!

>

>

> I ONLY focus on doing what I think...

> *I should be doing*!

>

>

> and, that lets EVERYONE live their

> own life and be responsible for their

> own *thoughts* and actions!

>

> I am NOT going to *waste* my own time

> *thinking* what someone else *should*

> be doing or *should have* done!

>

> That is NONE of my business...

> and, doing that ONLY creates pain!

>

>

> I would rather be *Free* and just think

> *what I should be doing* and focus ONLY

> on doing *what I should be doing*!

>

>

>

> ----

>

> *Now, if you want to live with someone

> who is monogamous and only sleeps with

> his wife... you can choose to marry a

> different person. But, doing that doesn't

> need to be based on the FIGHT with the

> *Reality* which is *already* the case!

>

> You can love the man and feel happy that

> he is doing what he *should* be doing [and

> possibly, is doing what makes him happy] and yet,

> choose to leave him and live with a man

> who is monogamous because, you know...

> that is what you *should* be doing!

>

>

>

>

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> >hello Adithya ...have you seen the video of the dialogue between

> Byron Katie and ug Krishnamurti available as streaming Real Player

on

> the ugK website? Just curious.

> ......bob

 

Yes, Bob... I have!

 

Regards,

ac.

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Nisargadatta , " Arvind " <adithya_comming

wrote:

>

> [...]

>

> > >hello Adithya ...have you seen the video of the dialogue between

> > Byron Katie and ug Krishnamurti available as streaming Real Player

> on

> > the ugK website? Just curious.

> > ......bob

>

> Yes, Bob... I have!

>

> Regards,

> ac.

>

that's great ac. good for you and good for me.and good for byron and

something else for ug.

(:-o)-----

....bob

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Nisargadatta , " Bob N. " <Roberibus111

wrote:

>

> Nisargadatta , " Arvind " <adithya_comming@>

> wrote:

> >

> > [...]

> >

> > > >hello Adithya ...have you seen the video of the dialogue

between

> > > Byron Katie and ug Krishnamurti available as streaming Real

Player

> > on

> > > the ugK website? Just curious.

> > > ......bob

> >

> > Yes, Bob... I have!

> >

> > Regards,

> > ac.

> >

> that's great ac. good for you and good for me.and good for

byron and

> something else for ug.

> (:-o)-----

> ....bob

>

 

Yes. I think I understand what you mean here!

 

Regards,

ac.

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Nisargadatta , " Arvind " <adithya_comming

wrote:

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> Nisargadatta , " Bob N. " <Roberibus111@>

> wrote:

> >

> > Nisargadatta , " Arvind " <adithya_comming@>

> > wrote:

> > >

> > > [...]

> > >

> > > > >hello Adithya ...have you seen the video of the dialogue

> between

> > > > Byron Katie and ug Krishnamurti available as streaming Real

> Player

> > > on

> > > > the ugK website? Just curious.

> > > > ......bob

> > >

> > > Yes, Bob... I have!

> > >

> > > Regards,

> > > ac.

> > >

> > that's great ac. good for you and good for me.and good for

> byron and

> > something else for ug.

> > (:-o)-----

> > ....bob

> >

>

> Yes. I think I understand what you mean here!

>

> Regards,

> ac.

>

;-)

.....bob

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