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The master told me...

 

as you can see, to Accept the reality

is not just the *right* choice, in

fact, it is the ONLY Choice!

 

Resenting it... doesn't really change

the reality... it only adds the

dimensions of *suffering* to it!

 

...and, *God* is nothing other than

*reality*...

Reality is nothing other than only the

manifestation of God!

 

 

Lot of teachings that otherwise might

sound only symbolic and terse to you...

will start making immediate day-to-day

sense, if you *learn* to see God as

*reality*... if you learn to see

*reality* as God!

 

Thus,

 

---- God is all powerful

 

becomes...

 

----- Reality is all powerful [Reality

being manifestation of God]

 

 

 

----- If you Love God... you gain

salvation...

 

becomes...

 

----- If you love Reality... you gain

Freedom... and, that freedom is Now!

 

 

---- If you hate God, if you resist

God... you will burn in Hell

 

becomes...

 

--- If you resist Reality, you will

burn in Hell... and, that Hell too is

created Now!

 

 

 

 

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....

 

 

Before you really learn what LOVE is...

before you really learn what Freedom

is, what enlightenment is...

 

you must first learn to SEE *clearly*

what Reality is...

 

and, that *clarity* can only come if

[mentally] *allow* the Reality [which

has already happened] exactly as it is...

 

and, that can *only* happen when you

drop your mental *resistance* to it...

 

...which can ONLY happen when you

fully accept it!

 

 

 

Your *relationship* with the *reality*

is defined by the *thoughts* you have

about it...

 

And, there is only one *sane*

*relationship* that you can have with

reality [which has already happened]...

that relationship [thought] is...

 

Reality [which has happened] *should*

have happened!

 

 

 

Remember, your *choices* of *response*

doesn't diminish when you you're your

futile [and irrational as it serves no

purpose than to create pain] resistance

to the reality...

 

In fact, your *real* *freedom of

choice* only begins Now... with full

Acceptance of Reality [that has

happened]...

 

Before that you remain only a *victim*

of Past...

 

 

[and, you remain pretty much *powerless*

in the *present*...

 

as, you keep [mentally] fighting a

war [against Reality... that has already

happened] that you can NOT possibly Win!]

 

 

 

 

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--- Adithya K <adithya_comming a écrit :

 

 

 

The master told me...

 

as you can see, to Accept the reality

is not just the *right* choice, in

fact, it is the ONLY Choice!

 

Resenting it... doesn't really change

the reality... it only adds the

dimensions of *suffering* to it!

 

...and, *God* is nothing other than

*reality*...

Reality is nothing other than only the

manifestation of God!

 

 

Lot of teachings that otherwise might

sound only symbolic and terse to you...

will start making immediate day-to-day

sense, if you *learn* to see God as

*reality*... if you learn to see

*reality* as God!

 

Thus,

 

---- God is all powerful

 

becomes...

 

----- Reality is all powerful [Reality

being manifestation of God]

 

 

 

----- If you Love God... you gain

salvation...

 

becomes...

 

----- If you love Reality... you gain

Freedom... and, that freedom is Now!

 

 

---- If you hate God, if you resist

God... you will burn in Hell

 

becomes...

 

--- If you resist Reality, you will

burn in Hell... and, that Hell too is

created Now!

......................................................

How nasty it is to listen to the radio when it isn`t

tune in. Statics are hell to the ear.

To have the radio tuned in is the only way to listen.

If you persist at listening to the radio unattuned,

you`ll become dumb, deaf and frustrated...

So...tune in.

 

Patricia

 

 

 

 

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Remember, your *choices* of *response*

don't diminish when you drop your

futile [and irrational as it serves no

purpose than to create pain] resistance

to the reality...

 

In fact, your *real* *freedom of

choice* only begins Now Only... with

full

Acceptance of Reality [that has

happened]...

 

Before that you remain only a *victim*

of Past...

 

 

[and, you remain pretty much *powerless*

in the *present*...

 

as, you keep [mentally] fighting a

war [against Reality... that has already

happened] that you can NOT possibly

Win!]

 

 

...

 

As long as you keep resisting the

Reality... your mental energies and

your mental space remains occupied by

the insane thoughts that only serve to

further torture you...

 

It is only after you full accept the

Reality and relinquish the *resistance*

[futile but *repetitive* thoughts] that

this Mental Space becomes *free* and

*available* to really *respond* with

Clarity...

 

 

It is ONLY after dropping resistance

that your Mental SPACE opens up...

 

and, it is only after this Mental

SPACE becoming *available* that ANY

situation can been seen clearly...

 

and, it is only in this 'available'

Space... that a really creative, real

and effective solution can be found!

 

 

As an added benefit, you also gain

*freedom*!

 

 

 

 

 

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started to read U G Krishnamurti.

Has anyone else read him here?

I got one of his book a lllong time ago, there was

something about him that made me really uneasy, my

intestines got in a knot yet I forced myself to read

him. Same reaction today. There is something I don`t

go with. And his portrait gives me the shivers.

Instincts are waving a red flag.

Yet, I like some of the stuff I read last night.

I am going to push it and then will try to understand

what bothers me so much about him. I rarely have such

reactions, very very rarely..

Patricia

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Nisargadatta , OConnor Patricia <gdtige

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> started to read U G Krishnamurti.

> Has anyone else read him here?

> I got one of his book a lllong time ago, there was

> something about him that made me really uneasy, my

> intestines got in a knot yet I forced myself to read

> him. Same reaction today. There is something I don`t

> go with. And his portrait gives me the shivers.

> Instincts are waving a red flag.

> Yet, I like some of the stuff I read last night.

> I am going to push it and then will try to understand

> what bothers me so much about him. I rarely have such

> reactions, very very rarely..

> Patricia

>

>

>

 

Hi Patricia,

 

i read something about U.G.

let me know about it...

well, you are not supposed to like what he says, or his face,mm?!?

 

:)

 

 

 

 

>

>

>

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....

 

 

 

The master told me...

 

 

Before you decide on *what to do*...

 

Before you think of *what you should

do*...

 

 

Be sure to find out... *what is*!

 

Be sure to See __What Is___ with as

much Clarity as possible, as deeply as

possible...

 

 

 

Before you think of what would you

rather do... what you rather not,

before you think of what should you do

in the future...

 

Before you think of *how* would you

rather not feel...

 

 

 

Find out... exactly how you *feel*

Right Now... this Very Moment!

 

Go Deep... keep going...

 

until you find out the real Crux, the

real Core of Exactly how you are

feeling Right Now!!!

 

 

 

Trusting the master, I started doing

it...

 

Calling my wife on phone... [and,

thinking internally I rather not do it

now]...

 

Calling my wife on phone... [and,

internally thinking I wonder what she

is going to say]...

 

Entering house... [and, internally

thinking I wonder what my wife is going

to say]

 

Going to meet my boss... [and,

internally thinking I wonder what she

is thinking, I wonder what she is going

to say]

 

 

 

I started doing it... and, to my Great

Surprise, I discovered...

 

Underneath... it was Absolutely

Nothing!!!!

 

 

There were just these *thoughts*...

but, underneath I was just Empty...

 

Even the *feeling* that I thought were

*real* and substantial...

 

once, I really looked,

 

I saw it was just the

disturbance caused by *confused* and

often 'contradictory' thoughts...

 

 

 

 

 

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[...]

 

> > > And why not??

> > > What emanates from this face makes me quizzy.

> > >

> >

> > It is very interesting that you are able to look at pictures

like

> > this, Patricia!

> >

> > I wonder what you think of this picture:

> >

> > AgeOfAwakening/message/627

> >

> >

> >

> > Regards,

> > ac.

>

> About the picture:

> only one is awakened

 

 

Of Course...

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>>Find out... exactly how you *feel*

Right Now... this Very Moment!

 

Go Deep... keep going...

 

until you find out the real Crux, the

real Core of Exactly how you are

feeling Right Now!!!

 

 

 

>>Trusting the master, I started doing

it...

 

>>Calling my wife on phone... [and,

thinking internally I rather not do it

now]...

 

>>Calling my wife on phone... [and,

internally thinking I wonder what she

is going to say]...

 

>>Entering house... [and, internally

thinking I wonder what my wife is going

to say]

 

>>Going to meet my boss... [and,

internally thinking I wonder what she

is thinking, I wonder what she is going

to say]

 

 

 

I started doing it... and, to my Great

Surprise, I discovered...

 

Underneath... it was Absolutely

Nothing!!!!

 

 

There were just these *thoughts*...

but, underneath I was just Empty...

 

Even the *feeling* that I thought were

*real* and substantial...

 

once, I really looked,

I saw it was just the

disturbance caused by *confused* and

often 'contradictory' thoughts...

 

 

...

 

I found out that... underneath...

 

I was always Empty...

 

and, always Same!

 

 

 

even when I *thought* I had *real*...

feelings...

 

 

and, I found out... that any of it

really didn't really matter to me [the

inner me... which I found to remain

totally untouched, unaffected by any

and all of it]...

 

 

 

Further, I found out...

 

that, once I started seeing the

__Reality__ as it Is...

 

once, I started looking really deep

into it...

 

once, I started paying attention to

___What Is__ that which is Now...

 

 

 

I started looking at my wife in the

way that I have not looked before...

 

I started discovering the beauty of the

mountains, trees behind the gate as I

waited for the complex gate to open...

 

I discovered the beauty of the

clouds and delicacies of the falling

rain drops whereas, before, I thought

rain in April was just annoying...

 

 

 

Visiting the shopping mall,

I discovered the color, beauty and

pattern on floor carpets... that I had

never seen...

 

 

 

 

 

 

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> ...

>

> I found out that... underneath...

>

> I was always Empty...

>

> and, always Same!

>

>

>

> even when I *thought* I had *real*...

> feelings...

>

>

> and, I found out... that any of it

> really didn't really matter to me [the

> inner me... which I found to remain

> totally untouched, unaffected by any

> and all of it]...

>

>

>

> Further, I found out...

>

> that, once I started seeing the

> __Reality__ as it Is...

>

> once, I started looking really deep

> into it...

>

> once, I started paying attention to

> ___What Is__ that which is Now...

>

>

>

> I started looking at my wife in the

> way that I have not looked before...

>

> I started discovering the beauty of the

> mountains, trees behind the gate as I

> waited for the complex gate to open...

>

> I discovered the beauty of the

> clouds and delicacies of the falling

> rain drops whereas, before, I thought

> rain in April was just annoying...

>

>

>

> Visiting the shopping mall,

> I discovered the color, beauty and

> pattern on floor carpets... that I had

> never seen...

 

 

....

 

But, most important thing that I discovered

that there is no real substance behind what

feelings [without the *thoughts* that I have

about people, things or situations]...

 

and, now that I discovered that when I go

within... I find... no thoughts [and as such

no *real* *root* for the feelings]...

 

I know, that the [mental] 'bondage' is always

only a 'surface condition' caused by erroneous

thoughts...

 

underneath always remain free of thoughts

and, as a result of... free of everything...

 

and, once I realize that... I know that I have

freedom to think the way I want!

 

[ ...and, it IS only my *thinking* that create

the [mental] world I live in... ]

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Nisargadatta , " Arvind " <adithya_comming wrote:

>

>

> > ...

> >

> > I found out that... underneath...

> >

> > I was always Empty...

> >

> > and, always Same!

> >

> >

> >

> > even when I *thought* I had *real*...

> > feelings...

 

yes... the sense that one has *real* feelings

that are *one's own* is a powerful illusion

 

 

> > and, I found out... that any of it

> > really didn't really matter to me [the

> > inner me... which I found to remain

> > totally untouched, unaffected by any

> > and all of it]...

> >

> >

> >

> > Further, I found out...

> >

> > that, once I started seeing the

> > __Reality__ as it Is...

> >

> > once, I started looking really deep

> > into it...

> >

> > once, I started paying attention to

> > ___What Is__ that which is Now...

> >

> >

> >

> > I started looking at my wife in the

> > way that I have not looked before...

> >

> > I started discovering the beauty of the

> > mountains, trees behind the gate as I

> > waited for the complex gate to open...

> >

> > I discovered the beauty of the

> > clouds and delicacies of the falling

> > rain drops whereas, before, I thought

> > rain in April was just annoying...

> >

> >

> >

> > Visiting the shopping mall,

> > I discovered the color, beauty and

> > pattern on floor carpets... that I had

> > never seen...

>

>

> ...

>

> But, most important thing that I discovered

> that there is no real substance behind what

> feelings [without the *thoughts* that I have

> about people, things or situations]...

>

> and, now that I discovered that when I go

> within... I find... no thoughts [and as such

> no *real* *root* for the feelings]...

>

> I know, that the [mental] 'bondage' is always

> only a 'surface condition' caused by erroneous

> thoughts...

>

> underneath always remain free of thoughts

> and, as a result of... free of everything...

>

> and, once I realize that... I know that I have

> freedom to think the way I want!

 

no correct/incorrect when a matrix of thought

is not what governs...

 

> [ ...and, it IS only my *thinking* that create

> the [mental] world I live in... ]

>

 

and when the " mental world " is no more

because immersed in Now how can it be

there is no world at all

as Now is not a world

 

Now is a simultaneity of livingness

 

Bill

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Nisargadatta , " billrishel " <illusyn wrote:

 

> yes... the sense that one has *real* feelings

> that are *one's own* is a powerful illusion

 

 

And the idea that those feelings aren´t one´s own

is even more powerful ;-)

 

Len

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Nisargadatta , " billrishel " <illusyn

wrote:

>

> Nisargadatta , " Arvind " <adithya_comming@>

wrote:

> >

> >

> > > ...

> > >

> > > I found out that... underneath...

> > >

> > > I was always Empty...

> > >

> > > and, always Same!

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > even when I *thought* I had *real*...

> > > feelings...

>

> yes... the sense that one has *real* feelings

> that are *one's own* is a powerful illusion

>

>

> > > and, I found out... that any of it

> > > really didn't really matter to me [the

> > > inner me... which I found to remain

> > > totally untouched, unaffected by any

> > > and all of it]...

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Further, I found out...

> > >

> > > that, once I started seeing the

> > > __Reality__ as it Is...

> > >

> > > once, I started looking really deep

> > > into it...

> > >

> > > once, I started paying attention to

> > > ___What Is__ that which is Now...

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > I started looking at my wife in the

> > > way that I have not looked before...

> > >

> > > I started discovering the beauty of the

> > > mountains, trees behind the gate as I

> > > waited for the complex gate to open...

> > >

> > > I discovered the beauty of the

> > > clouds and delicacies of the falling

> > > rain drops whereas, before, I thought

> > > rain in April was just annoying...

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Visiting the shopping mall,

> > > I discovered the color, beauty and

> > > pattern on floor carpets... that I had

> > > never seen...

> >

> >

> > ...

> >

> > But, most important thing that I discovered

> > that there is no real substance behind what

> > feelings [without the *thoughts* that I have

> > about people, things or situations]...

> >

> > and, now that I discovered that when I go

> > within... I find... no thoughts [and as such

> > no *real* *root* for the feelings]...

> >

> > I know, that the [mental] 'bondage' is always

> > only a 'surface condition' caused by erroneous

> > thoughts...

> >

> > underneath always remain free of thoughts

> > and, as a result of... free of everything...

> >

> > and, once I realize that... I know that I have

> > freedom to think the way I want!

>

> no correct/incorrect when a matrix of thought

> is not what governs...

>

> > [ ...and, it IS only my *thinking* that create

> > the [mental] world I live in... ]

> >

>

> and when the " mental world " is no more

> because immersed in Now how can it be

> there is no world at all

> as Now is not a world

>

> Now is a simultaneity of livingness

>

> Bill

 

 

 

There is a concept of ego, triggering self-defence, feelings, etc,

and on top of that, there is a concept of it not being real, which

makes it impossible to watch, understand and dissolve the original

concept/conflict.

I´d say that you people are even further from truth than a criminal,

who sticks to misconceptions, but who at least doesn´t deny having

them.

 

Len

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Nisargadatta , " lissbon2002 " <lissbon2002

wrote:

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> Nisargadatta , " billrishel " <illusyn@> wrote:

>

> > yes... the sense that one has *real* feelings

> > that are *one's own* is a powerful illusion

>

>

> And the idea that those feelings aren´t one´s own

> is even more powerful ;-)

>

> Len

>

 

Any idea regarded as holy is powerful.

 

Pity those who bear such burdens!

 

 

Bill

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Nisargadatta , " lissbon2002 " <lissbon2002

wrote:

>

> Nisargadatta , " billrishel " <illusyn@>

> wrote:

> >

> > Nisargadatta , " Arvind " <adithya_comming@>

> wrote:

> > >

> > >

> > > > ...

> > > >

> > > > I found out that... underneath...

> > > >

> > > > I was always Empty...

> > > >

> > > > and, always Same!

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > even when I *thought* I had *real*...

> > > > feelings...

> >

> > yes... the sense that one has *real* feelings

> > that are *one's own* is a powerful illusion

> >

> >

> > > > and, I found out... that any of it

> > > > really didn't really matter to me [the

> > > > inner me... which I found to remain

> > > > totally untouched, unaffected by any

> > > > and all of it]...

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Further, I found out...

> > > >

> > > > that, once I started seeing the

> > > > __Reality__ as it Is...

> > > >

> > > > once, I started looking really deep

> > > > into it...

> > > >

> > > > once, I started paying attention to

> > > > ___What Is__ that which is Now...

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > I started looking at my wife in the

> > > > way that I have not looked before...

> > > >

> > > > I started discovering the beauty of the

> > > > mountains, trees behind the gate as I

> > > > waited for the complex gate to open...

> > > >

> > > > I discovered the beauty of the

> > > > clouds and delicacies of the falling

> > > > rain drops whereas, before, I thought

> > > > rain in April was just annoying...

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Visiting the shopping mall,

> > > > I discovered the color, beauty and

> > > > pattern on floor carpets... that I had

> > > > never seen...

> > >

> > >

> > > ...

> > >

> > > But, most important thing that I discovered

> > > that there is no real substance behind what

> > > feelings [without the *thoughts* that I have

> > > about people, things or situations]...

> > >

> > > and, now that I discovered that when I go

> > > within... I find... no thoughts [and as such

> > > no *real* *root* for the feelings]...

> > >

> > > I know, that the [mental] 'bondage' is always

> > > only a 'surface condition' caused by erroneous

> > > thoughts...

> > >

> > > underneath always remain free of thoughts

> > > and, as a result of... free of everything...

> > >

> > > and, once I realize that... I know that I have

> > > freedom to think the way I want!

> >

> > no correct/incorrect when a matrix of thought

> > is not what governs...

> >

> > > [ ...and, it IS only my *thinking* that create

> > > the [mental] world I live in... ]

> > >

> >

> > and when the " mental world " is no more

> > because immersed in Now how can it be

> > there is no world at all

> > as Now is not a world

> >

> > Now is a simultaneity of livingness

> >

> > Bill

>

>

>

> There is a concept of ego,

Speak for your self!

 

Ahhh... but I guess you are...

 

Bill

 

> triggering self-defence, feelings, etc,

> and on top of that, there is a concept of it not being real, which

> makes it impossible to watch, understand and dissolve the original

> concept/conflict.

> I´d say that you people are even further from truth than a

criminal,

> who sticks to misconceptions, but who at least doesn´t deny having

> them.

>

> Len

>

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Nisargadatta , " billrishel " <illusyn

wrote:

>

> Nisargadatta , " lissbon2002 " <lissbon2002@>

> wrote:

> >

> > Nisargadatta , " billrishel " <illusyn@>

> > wrote:

> > >

> > > Nisargadatta , " Arvind "

<adithya_comming@>

> > wrote:

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > > ...

> > > > >

> > > > > I found out that... underneath...

> > > > >

> > > > > I was always Empty...

> > > > >

> > > > > and, always Same!

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > even when I *thought* I had *real*...

> > > > > feelings...

> > >

> > > yes... the sense that one has *real* feelings

> > > that are *one's own* is a powerful illusion

> > >

> > >

> > > > > and, I found out... that any of it

> > > > > really didn't really matter to me [the

> > > > > inner me... which I found to remain

> > > > > totally untouched, unaffected by any

> > > > > and all of it]...

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Further, I found out...

> > > > >

> > > > > that, once I started seeing the

> > > > > __Reality__ as it Is...

> > > > >

> > > > > once, I started looking really deep

> > > > > into it...

> > > > >

> > > > > once, I started paying attention to

> > > > > ___What Is__ that which is Now...

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > I started looking at my wife in the

> > > > > way that I have not looked before...

> > > > >

> > > > > I started discovering the beauty of the

> > > > > mountains, trees behind the gate as I

> > > > > waited for the complex gate to open...

> > > > >

> > > > > I discovered the beauty of the

> > > > > clouds and delicacies of the falling

> > > > > rain drops whereas, before, I thought

> > > > > rain in April was just annoying...

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Visiting the shopping mall,

> > > > > I discovered the color, beauty and

> > > > > pattern on floor carpets... that I had

> > > > > never seen...

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > ...

> > > >

> > > > But, most important thing that I discovered

> > > > that there is no real substance behind what

> > > > feelings [without the *thoughts* that I have

> > > > about people, things or situations]...

> > > >

> > > > and, now that I discovered that when I go

> > > > within... I find... no thoughts [and as such

> > > > no *real* *root* for the feelings]...

> > > >

> > > > I know, that the [mental] 'bondage' is always

> > > > only a 'surface condition' caused by erroneous

> > > > thoughts...

> > > >

> > > > underneath always remain free of thoughts

> > > > and, as a result of... free of everything...

> > > >

> > > > and, once I realize that... I know that I have

> > > > freedom to think the way I want!

> > >

> > > no correct/incorrect when a matrix of thought

> > > is not what governs...

> > >

> > > > [ ...and, it IS only my *thinking* that create

> > > > the [mental] world I live in... ]

> > > >

> > >

> > > and when the " mental world " is no more

> > > because immersed in Now how can it be

> > > there is no world at all

> > > as Now is not a world

> > >

> > > Now is a simultaneity of livingness

> > >

> > > Bill

> >

> >

> >

> > There is a concept of ego,

> Speak for your self!

>

> Ahhh... but I guess you are...

>

> Bill

 

 

 

You wish!

But no, I´m speaking about the non-owner of his feelings, who´s

hiding in Now, now ;-)

 

len

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Nisargadatta , " lissbon2002 " <lissbon2002

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> Nisargadatta , " billrishel " <illusyn@>

> wrote:

> >

> > Nisargadatta , " lissbon2002 " <lissbon2002@>

> > wrote:

> > >

> > > Nisargadatta , " billrishel " <illusyn@>

> > > wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Nisargadatta , " Arvind "

> <adithya_comming@>

> > > wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > > ...

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I found out that... underneath...

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I was always Empty...

> > > > > >

> > > > > > and, always Same!

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > even when I *thought* I had *real*...

> > > > > > feelings...

> > > >

> > > > yes... the sense that one has *real* feelings

> > > > that are *one's own* is a powerful illusion

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > and, I found out... that any of it

> > > > > > really didn't really matter to me [the

> > > > > > inner me... which I found to remain

> > > > > > totally untouched, unaffected by any

> > > > > > and all of it]...

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Further, I found out...

> > > > > >

> > > > > > that, once I started seeing the

> > > > > > __Reality__ as it Is...

> > > > > >

> > > > > > once, I started looking really deep

> > > > > > into it...

> > > > > >

> > > > > > once, I started paying attention to

> > > > > > ___What Is__ that which is Now...

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I started looking at my wife in the

> > > > > > way that I have not looked before...

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I started discovering the beauty of the

> > > > > > mountains, trees behind the gate as I

> > > > > > waited for the complex gate to open...

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I discovered the beauty of the

> > > > > > clouds and delicacies of the falling

> > > > > > rain drops whereas, before, I thought

> > > > > > rain in April was just annoying...

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Visiting the shopping mall,

> > > > > > I discovered the color, beauty and

> > > > > > pattern on floor carpets... that I had

> > > > > > never seen...

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > ...

> > > > >

> > > > > But, most important thing that I discovered

> > > > > that there is no real substance behind what

> > > > > feelings [without the *thoughts* that I have

> > > > > about people, things or situations]...

> > > > >

> > > > > and, now that I discovered that when I go

> > > > > within... I find... no thoughts [and as such

> > > > > no *real* *root* for the feelings]...

> > > > >

> > > > > I know, that the [mental] 'bondage' is always

> > > > > only a 'surface condition' caused by erroneous

> > > > > thoughts...

> > > > >

> > > > > underneath always remain free of thoughts

> > > > > and, as a result of... free of everything...

> > > > >

> > > > > and, once I realize that... I know that I have

> > > > > freedom to think the way I want!

> > > >

> > > > no correct/incorrect when a matrix of thought

> > > > is not what governs...

> > > >

> > > > > [ ...and, it IS only my *thinking* that create

> > > > > the [mental] world I live in... ]

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > > and when the " mental world " is no more

> > > > because immersed in Now how can it be

> > > > there is no world at all

> > > > as Now is not a world

> > > >

> > > > Now is a simultaneity of livingness

> > > >

> > > > Bill

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > There is a concept of ego,

> > Speak for your self!

> >

> > Ahhh... but I guess you are...

> >

> > Bill

>

>

>

> You wish!

> But no, I´m speaking about the non-owner of his feelings, who´s

> hiding in Now, now ;-)

>

> len

>

 

You're not the mind-reader you think!

No I don't wish.

I don't care.

I care not about anyone's opinion,

not yours, not that of anyone of this

list, not even my own.

 

So why do you persist in wanting to

share yours?

If it is not for your own satisfaction,

that it is certainly pointless, yes?

 

Or do you actually believe you are talking

to someone *else*?

 

 

Bill

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Nisargadatta , " billrishel " <illusyn wrote:

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> Nisargadatta , " lissbon2002 " <lissbon2002@>

> wrote:

> >

> > Nisargadatta , " billrishel " <illusyn@>

> > wrote:

> > >

> > > Nisargadatta , " lissbon2002 "

<lissbon2002@>

> > > wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Nisargadatta , " billrishel " <illusyn@>

> > > > wrote:

 

 

> > > > > and when the " mental world " is no more

> > > > > because immersed in Now how can it be

> > > > > there is no world at all

> > > > > as Now is not a world

> > > > >

> > > > > Now is a simultaneity of livingness

> > > > >

> > > > > Bill

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > There is a concept of ego,

> > > Speak for your self!

> > >

> > > Ahhh... but I guess you are...

> > >

> > > Bill

> >

> >

> >

> > You wish!

> > But no, I´m speaking about the non-owner of his feelings, who´s

> > hiding in Now, now ;-)

> >

> > len

> >

>

> You're not the mind-reader you think!

> No I don't wish.

> I don't care.

> I care not about anyone's opinion,

> not yours, not that of anyone of this

> list, not even my own.

>

> So why do you persist in wanting to

> share yours?

> If it is not for your own satisfaction,

> that it is certainly pointless, yes?

>

> Or do you actually believe you are talking

> to someone *else*?

>

>

> Bill

 

 

 

I was trying to talk to you, but suddenly you immersed in Now and

were no more.

You left me in tears, how could you?

 

Len

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