Guest guest Posted April 13, 2006 Report Share Posted April 13, 2006 In a message dated 4/13/2006 5:46:10 AM Pacific Daylight Time, lissbon2002 writes: > You will keep believing this untill you notice the difference > between what you believe to be there and what is. > Which for most people means - to their grave. > > Len L.E: Your statement is almost a curse. I don't think that at death people realize the difference between what they believe and what is. So that means they will never realize the truth that you realize. But you seem to be trying to understand or realize something rather that having accomplished it, although perhaps I am mistaken. I think beliefs have to be conscious enough to be realized and affirmed as beliefs and there are no unconscious or subconscious beliefs. I suppose we differ on this as well. But we can make ordinary mistakes, like loving someone who doesn't love us, or buying a rotting house or choosing the wrong dentist, but that's not what you mean is it? Larry Epston Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 13, 2006 Report Share Posted April 13, 2006 Nisargadatta , epston wrote: > > In a message dated 4/13/2006 5:46:10 AM Pacific Daylight Time, > lissbon2002 writes: > > > You will keep believing this untill you notice the difference > > between what you believe to be there and what is. > > Which for most people means - to their grave. > > > > Len > > L.E: Your statement is almost a curse. The belief in the reality of self-image is ineed like a curse. But not because I´m saying it. Len > I don't think that at death people > realize the difference between what they believe and what is. So that means they > will never realize the truth that you realize. But you seem to be trying to > understand or realize something rather that having accomplished it, although > perhaps I am mistaken. > I think beliefs have to be conscious enough to be realized and affirmed as > beliefs and there are no unconscious or subconscious beliefs. I suppose we > differ on this as well. But we can make ordinary mistakes, like loving someone > who doesn't love us, or buying a rotting house or choosing the wrong dentist, > but that's not what you mean is it? > > Larry Epston > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 13, 2006 Report Share Posted April 13, 2006 In a message dated 4/13/2006 7:37:27 AM Pacific Daylight Time, lissbon2002 writes: > > The belief in the reality of self-image is ineed like a curse. > But not because I´m saying it. > > Len > L.E: It's only because you are saying it. Outside of that, it doesn't exist. And if you believe in the reality of something and it is a reality, there is no longer a need for the belief. Get it? Larry Epston Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 14, 2006 Report Share Posted April 14, 2006 Nisargadatta , epston wrote: > > In a message dated 4/13/2006 7:37:27 AM Pacific Daylight Time, > lissbon2002 writes: > > > > > The belief in the reality of self-image is ineed like a curse. > > But not because I´m saying it. > > > > Len > > > > L.E: It's only because you are saying it. Outside of that, it doesn't exist. > And if you believe in the reality of something and it is a reality, there is > no longer a need for the belief. Get it? > > Larry Epston > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 14, 2006 Report Share Posted April 14, 2006 > Nisargadatta , epston@ wrote: > > And if you believe in the reality of something and it is a reality, > there is > > no longer a need for the belief. Get it? > > > > Larry Epston This is what all fundamentalistic believers think. Len Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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