Guest guest Posted April 13, 2006 Report Share Posted April 13, 2006 In a message dated 4/13/2006 6:34:14 PM Pacific Daylight Time, adithya_comming writes: > When " drunk " and 'in a group' teenager > breaks the Car... > > > Whom do I blame and... WHY? > L.E; Don't blame anyone or anything. Take the keys away, fix the car and have a good day. Larry Epston Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 14, 2006 Report Share Posted April 14, 2006 As I kept observing, I noticed things... ----- Whatever I do... I do it for myself! Even when I do something that might be called " unselfish " , " loving " , " kind " , " compassionate " ... I do it because I LOVE doing it! I do it for my Own Love! Or, I do it because I enjoy doing it... Or, I do it for my won Peace! When I fully know it, I naturally don't expect anything from anyone in return and whatever comes... I come to see it as a 'gift'! When I don't know it and do it with the *delusion* that I am doing it for *someone else*... I usually cause pain all-around and whatever, I receive is rarely " enough " ! ----- I can not really forgive anyone! But, when I see the futility and pain of my *thinking*... what is called " forgiveness " ... naturally happens! It happens because I see that by holding the resentment against reality and by *repeating* painful thoughts... I serve no purpose other than to create pain for myself and others! It happens because I see that don't need to *hold* these painful and otherwise useless thoughts for any reason. I see that these thoughts are not necessary in order to take any useful and real action; in fact, for the most part, they only keep me from doing it! It happens because I see that I am fully able to take any action that I see necessary and useful without holding a mental grudge against Reality... and, as natural result, it also gives *me*... *freedom* and *release*! I do it because, I find holding an otherwise 'non serving' *grudge* against someone or something... a *burden* and *pain* for myself! And, once I do that... what is known as " forgiveness " happens by itself! and, the freedom and release that it grants... it grants it First to Me! I forgive " others " because it brings freedom to myself! I forgive others to be free myself... as I find out to *keep thinking* *what someone did* is... MY Pain! ...and, the *release from it* is MY Freedom! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 14, 2006 Report Share Posted April 14, 2006 I forgive " others " because it brings freedom to myself! I forgive others to be free myself... because I know to *keep thinking* *what someone did* is... MY Pain! ....and, the *release from it* is MY Freedom! .... Two other things that I noticed are: ------ Just as Sun is bound by its nature, stars are bound by their nature, fire, water, plants and everything else is bound by its nature... people *too* are bound by their nature! I do see common sense and *wisdom* to not hold any *grudge* against Fire and to mentally keep complaining... " why fire burns??? " ! Neither do I keep complaining against the day and night that happens due to the *natural* movement of the earth... I even show *wisdom* to not hold long time *grudge* against things like flood, tsunami, draught that do sometimes really Occur!!! We see these things as bound by their *nature*... ....but, when it comes to " people " , we seem to assume *too much* of *free will* and too much of *free choice*! As I keep observing, I see that people too are similarly " bound " by their nature and everything else that " goes around them " ! When I see that I naturally [re]gain some of my *natural* wisdom... and, what is known as " forgiveness " starts happening many times on its own... When diaper is wet... son cries... When hungry... son cries... When thirsty, hungry... husband gets irritated quickly, get angry, even shouts... When emotionally busy and thinking something and not finding an 'amicable' solution... wife shouts, wife blames, wife becomes angry at everyone around her... When " drunk " and 'in a group' teenager breaks the Car... Whom do I blame and... WHY? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 14, 2006 Report Share Posted April 14, 2006 Nisargadatta , " Arvind " <adithya_comming wrote: > > I forgive " others " because it brings > freedom to myself! > > I forgive others to be free myself... > because I know to *keep thinking* > *what someone did* is... > > MY Pain! > > ...and, the *release from it* is MY Freedom! > > > > ... > > Two other things that I noticed are: > > ------ Just as Sun is bound by its > nature, stars are bound by their > nature, fire, water, plants and > everything else is bound by its > nature... people *too* are bound by > their nature! > > I do see common sense and *wisdom* to > not hold any *grudge* against Fire and > to mentally keep complaining... " why > fire burns??? " ! > > Neither do I keep complaining against > the day and night that happens due to > the *natural* movement of the earth... > > I even show *wisdom* to not hold long > time *grudge* against things like > flood, tsunami, draught that do > sometimes really Occur!!! > > We see these things as bound by their > *nature*... > > ...but, when it comes to " people " , we > seem to assume *too much* of *free > will* and too much of *free choice*! > > > > As I keep observing, I see that people > too are similarly " bound " by their > nature and everything else that " goes > around them " ! > > When I see that I naturally [re]gain > some of my *natural* wisdom... > > and, what is known as " forgiveness " > starts happening many times on its own... > > > When diaper is wet... son cries... > > When hungry... son cries... > > When thirsty, hungry... husband gets > irritated quickly, get angry, even > shouts... > > When emotionally busy and thinking > something and not finding an 'amicable' > solution... wife shouts, wife blames, > wife becomes angry at everyone around > her... > > > When " drunk " and 'in a group' teenager > breaks the Car... > > > Whom do I blame and... WHY? > Cool. I like this Arvind..nice! ........bob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 14, 2006 Report Share Posted April 14, 2006 [...] > When diaper is wet... son cries... > > When hungry... son cries... > > When thirsty, hungry... husband gets > irritated quickly, get angry, even > shouts... > > When emotionally busy and thinking > something and not finding an 'amicable' > solution... wife shouts, wife blames, > wife becomes angry at everyone around > her... > > > When " drunk " and 'in a group' teenager > breaks the Car... > > > Whom do I blame and... WHY? > .... I come to see that what is known as 'envy', 'jealousy', 'possessiveness', 'anger', 'attachment', 'aggressive' too is part of the nature... and, part of the natural makeup of many humans... Some of it is due to circumstances, situations, upbringing, education, environment and food... but, after watching many babies, I found out that a sufficiently large part of it is even present at Birth!!! Once I see that, whom can I really blame and... WHY? But, just like I use some caution and care when around Fire, just like I keep inflammable objects away from fire and try to keep fire 'contained' in a safe container... once, I know the properties of people around me, I might apply some caution and knowledge there too! Yet, my experience with " fire " teaches me that in order to use it *wisely*, and, in order to be relatively " safe " from it... I don't real need hold a *grudge* against Fire! In fact, doing so will be considered rather foolish and will cause unnecessary pain! Further, we seem to have *wisdom* to not expect fire... " to not burn*! We don't think and say " fire should not burn " and then hold resentment against it... when in fact, it does really Burn! We know that Fire is bound by its nature, its input and its environment... Similarly, once we fully know that [like everything else in nature], people too are [to a very large extent] bound by their nature, input and environment... we know that holding resentment or *grudge* against... " how they really are " and " what they really do " is rather Unnecessary! ....care, caution, common sense and little *wisdom* I can still Apply! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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