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Nisargadatta , " Arvind " <adithya_comming

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>

> I haven't read much of UG and haven't

> been too impressed by what I have read

> of him. I have found him to use very

> negative, provocative and even abusive

> and insulting language.

>

> Maybe, he uses it to draw attention!

>

> Many people in past have used shouting,

> abusing and negativity to gain attention

> when they think, their ideas are not original,

> fresh and innovative and may not gain

> attention on its own!

>

>

> Here is some of UG that I have come

> across (I especially found his comments

> about *God* Very *Suspicious*...

> meaning, perhaps, he doesn't Know!!!):

>

>

> --------------------------------

>

>

> If I had ever me Einstein and if he

> had enough intelligence to understand

> what I am talking, I would have

> finished him on one minute.

>

> ~UG talking to Katie and someone else.

>

> http://www.well.com/user/jct/ (

> UG' Official /unofficial site )

>

> ...

>

>

> Q: But the government that is elected

> represents a particular class.

>

> UG: Rich people, you see -- " I want my

> five acres of land to be assured. " I

> have none, so it doesn't matter to me --

> the land ceiling -- nothing affects me.

> Even if the communists come into power,

> I have nothing to lose.

>

> Not that the communists can solve the

> problems; nobody, no party, can solve

> the problems of India; GOD ALONE, IF

> THERE IS A GOD, and even that if He

> can. HE IS SINGULARLY INCAPABLE OF

> SOLVING (Laughs) the problems of India.

>

> It is not a pessimistic evaluation of

> the problems of India, but I don't see

> how it is possible. I don't see any

> hope for this country. I want this

> country to play a very important role

> in the affairs of the world. I would be

> most enchanted (Laughs) if India could

> play an important part. Even God cannot

> do it. THE ALL- POWERFUL, ALMIGHTY GOD,

> IF THERE IS ONE -- I don't know if

> there is any -- if he can't do it, what

> can I and you do?

>

> ~ UG

>

> AC: [ Look at the statements. Look at

> CAPITALIZED parts. What does it tell

> you ? ]

> ....

>

> Devotional Music

> -----------------------

> I listen to the devotional music every

> morning -- not that I'm interested in

> that or anything; because I am here and

> the radio is there, I tune in. Those

> devotional songs -- what are they? Do

> they know the meaning of those things

> they are singing? It is pornography, I

> am sorry to say -- really, it is

> pornography. I have come to the

> conclusion that the composers of all

> those stotras (verses) were sex-starved

> people, so they externalized it and put

> it on the goddess. They do not leave

> out even one part of the anatomy of the

> woman in those stotras. I am not

> condemning.

>

> You can give mystical explanations for

> all those things -- I am not interested

> in the mystical explanations -- that's

> only a cover-up, a hush-hush policy on

> the part of those who want to put down

> the questioning attitude of some of the

> people, who want to know why these

> things are there.

>

> I was just telling the people here:

> the worship of the bull there in the

> temple, and the worship of Siva -- you

> know that yoni and lingam business --

> has come down from THE ORIGINAL MAN, TO

> WHOM SEX WAS THE HIGHEST KIND OF

> PLEASURE that he knew. Later on man

> experienced the bliss, the beatitude,

> and all that moved over; but,

> originally, sex was the most important

> thing. EVEN THE CROSS IS A PHALLIC

> SYMBOL.

>

> In the church they give wine and bread

> -- what does it actually mean? You see,

> they have copied it from the days of

> the savages -- WHEN A HERO DIED THERE,

> THEY ATE HIS FLESH AND DRANK HIS BLOOD

> hoping that they would acquire the

> great traits of the hero. So, that is

> passed on from generation to generation.

>

> ....

> ~ UG

>

>

> Q: The Upanishadic seers, I think,

> were all people who blossomed

> individually.

>

> U.G.: Sir, if there was anything to

> the teachings of the Upanishads, there

> wouldn't have been any need for Buddha

> to come. Why did he? They created the

> opportunity, the need for a man like

> Buddha -- he came after the Upanishads.

>

> You see, the Vedic stuff deteriorated,

> then the Upanishadic seers arrived on

> the scene; and they messed up the whole

> thing, so Buddha came; and afterwards,

> so many people. Buddhism deteriorated

> in this country, so Sankara had to

> come; and Sankara's followers did

> exactly the same thing, so there arose

> the need for Ramanujacharya to come --

> it's the same thing, you see -- and,

> after him, Madhavacharya. Where is the

> room for all these teachers?

>

> So, probably there is again a need for

> another teacher -- GOD ALONE KNOWS. IF

> HE IS THERE AROUND THE CORNER, I DON'T

> KNOW. Even the avatars we have in our

> midst seem unable to perform this

> miracle which is necessary to save this

> country and the world.

>

" You see, ya can't please everyone, so you got to please yourself " ,

no sir that's not ug speaking, nor is it God....it's Rickey! Rickey

Nelson that is. Sadly gone now. But you know what...it could be ug or

God or yourself for that matter... The only way Anyone's happy in

one's life is if that one is happy themselves...even if that one

seems....Mad. And it's ssooooo suspicious a.c. ..What isn't?

;-)

........bob

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Nisargadatta , OConnor Patricia <gdtige

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> If I had ever me Einstein and if he

> had enough intelligence to understand

> what I am talking, I would have

> finished him on one minute.

>

> ~UG talking to Katie and someone else.

 

 

This kind of statements are especially popular among residents of

mental hospitals.

 

Len

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Nisargadatta , " lissbon2002 " <lissbon2002

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> Nisargadatta , OConnor Patricia <gdtige@>

> wrote:

>

> > If I had ever me Einstein and if he

> > had enough intelligence to understand

> > what I am talking, I would have

> > finished him on one minute.

> >

> > ~UG talking to Katie and someone else.

>

>

> This kind of statements are especially popular among residents of

> mental hospitals.

>

> Len

>

Wise Fools if they can see beyond the obvious.

.........bob

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