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In a message dated 4/15/2006 12:50:01 PM Pacific Daylight Time,

illusyn writes:

 

> I'm not trying to sell you on what I am, nor

> on what I think of you. When it starts to

> feel like something is being pushed on me,

> I lose interest. Not accusing here, just saying

> when it feels that way...

>

> So when I lost my internet connection for a

> few days... and then got back online... didn't

> feel like going back to that thread we were

> on that had seemed to lose it's freshness.

>

> But... if you would like to continue... and

> we could start ANEW... I'm open :)

>

>

> Bill

>

>

>

 

L.E: Bill, you are being too nice to someone who has no criteria of

politeness or respect for others. They are always defending something and

interpreting

others as attacking them. Do you know anything about narcissism? Check it

out on google and you will know who Len is.

 

Larry Epston

 

 

 

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Nisargadatta , " lissbon2002 " <lissbon2002

wrote:

>

> Nisargadatta , " billrishel " <illusyn@> wrote:

> >

> > Nisargadatta , " lissbon2002 " <lissbon2002@>

> > wrote:

> > >

> > > Nisargadatta , " billrishel " <illusyn@>

> > > wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Nisargadatta , " lissbon2002 "

> <lissbon2002@>

> > > > wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Nisargadatta , " billrishel " <illusyn@>

> > > > > wrote:

>

>

> > > > > > and when the " mental world " is no more

> > > > > > because immersed in Now how can it be

> > > > > > there is no world at all

> > > > > > as Now is not a world

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Now is a simultaneity of livingness

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Bill

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > There is a concept of ego,

> > > > Speak for your self!

> > > >

> > > > Ahhh... but I guess you are...

> > > >

> > > > Bill

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > You wish!

> > > But no, I´m speaking about the non-owner of his feelings, who´s

> > > hiding in Now, now ;-)

> > >

> > > len

> > >

> >

> > You're not the mind-reader you think!

> > No I don't wish.

> > I don't care.

> > I care not about anyone's opinion,

> > not yours, not that of anyone of this

> > list, not even my own.

> >

> > So why do you persist in wanting to

> > share yours?

> > If it is not for your own satisfaction,

> > that it is certainly pointless, yes?

> >

> > Or do you actually believe you are talking

> > to someone *else*?

> >

> >

> > Bill

>

>

>

> I was trying to talk to you, but suddenly you immersed in Now and

> were no more.

> You left me in tears, how could you?

>

> Len

>

 

I didn't really change.

But the conversation had become not a mutual

open going-into-together... to me it didn't

have that feel, that quality anymore...

 

I don't care to fend off " you " statements,

and the agendas that come attached to them.

 

Do you know what I mean?

 

I'm not trying to sell you on what I am, nor

on what I think of you. When it starts to

feel like something is being pushed on me,

I lose interest. Not accusing here, just saying

when it feels that way...

 

So when I lost my internet connection for a

few days... and then got back online... didn't

feel like going back to that thread we were

on that had seemed to lose it's freshness.

 

But... if you would like to continue... and

we could start ANEW... I'm open :)

 

 

Bill

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Nisargadatta , " billrishel " <illusyn

wrote:

>

> Nisargadatta , " lissbon2002 " <lissbon2002@>

> wrote:

> >

> > Nisargadatta , " billrishel " <illusyn@>

wrote:

> > >

> > > Nisargadatta , " lissbon2002 "

<lissbon2002@>

> > > wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Nisargadatta , " billrishel " <illusyn@>

> > > > wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Nisargadatta , " lissbon2002 "

> > <lissbon2002@>

> > > > > wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Nisargadatta , " billrishel "

<illusyn@>

> > > > > > wrote:

> >

> >

> > > > > > > and when the " mental world " is no more

> > > > > > > because immersed in Now how can it be

> > > > > > > there is no world at all

> > > > > > > as Now is not a world

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Now is a simultaneity of livingness

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Bill

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > There is a concept of ego,

> > > > > Speak for your self!

> > > > >

> > > > > Ahhh... but I guess you are...

> > > > >

> > > > > Bill

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > You wish!

> > > > But no, I´m speaking about the non-owner of his feelings,

who´s

> > > > hiding in Now, now ;-)

> > > >

> > > > len

> > > >

> > >

> > > You're not the mind-reader you think!

> > > No I don't wish.

> > > I don't care.

> > > I care not about anyone's opinion,

> > > not yours, not that of anyone of this

> > > list, not even my own.

> > >

> > > So why do you persist in wanting to

> > > share yours?

> > > If it is not for your own satisfaction,

> > > that it is certainly pointless, yes?

> > >

> > > Or do you actually believe you are talking

> > > to someone *else*?

> > >

> > >

> > > Bill

> >

> >

> >

> > I was trying to talk to you, but suddenly you immersed in Now

and

> > were no more.

> > You left me in tears, how could you?

> >

> > Len

> >

>

> I didn't really change.

> But the conversation had become not a mutual

> open going-into-together... to me it didn't

> have that feel, that quality anymore...

>

> I don't care to fend off " you " statements,

> and the agendas that come attached to them.

>

> Do you know what I mean?

>

> I'm not trying to sell you on what I am, nor

> on what I think of you. When it starts to

> feel like something is being pushed on me,

> I lose interest. Not accusing here, just saying

> when it feels that way...

>

> So when I lost my internet connection for a

> few days... and then got back online... didn't

> feel like going back to that thread we were

> on that had seemed to lose it's freshness.

>

> But... if you would like to continue... and

> we could start ANEW... I'm open :)

>

>

> Bill

 

 

 

I was joking actually.

I´m always open for a conversation which feels meaningful to me, but

I´m not sure whether such thing is possible between us.

What is clearly an image system to me is to you reality and at this

point communication ends, don´t you think?

 

Len

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Nisargadatta , epston wrote:

>

> In a message dated 4/15/2006 12:50:01 PM Pacific Daylight Time,

> illusyn writes:

>

> > I'm not trying to sell you on what I am, nor

> > on what I think of you. When it starts to

> > feel like something is being pushed on me,

> > I lose interest. Not accusing here, just saying

> > when it feels that way...

> >

> > So when I lost my internet connection for a

> > few days... and then got back online... didn't

> > feel like going back to that thread we were

> > on that had seemed to lose it's freshness.

> >

> > But... if you would like to continue... and

> > we could start ANEW... I'm open :)

> >

> >

> > Bill

> >

> >

> >

>

> L.E: Bill, you are being too nice to someone who has no criteria

of

> politeness or respect for others. They are always defending

something and interpreting

> others as attacking them. Do you know anything about narcissism?

Check it

> out on google and you will know who Len is.

>

> Larry Epston

 

 

 

Larry is right as usual, if you want to get to know me, just speak

to Larry.

 

Len

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Nisargadatta , epston wrote:

>

> In a message dated 4/15/2006 12:50:01 PM Pacific Daylight Time,

> illusyn writes:

>

> > I'm not trying to sell you on what I am, nor

> > on what I think of you. When it starts to

> > feel like something is being pushed on me,

> > I lose interest. Not accusing here, just saying

> > when it feels that way...

> >

> > So when I lost my internet connection for a

> > few days... and then got back online... didn't

> > feel like going back to that thread we were

> > on that had seemed to lose it's freshness.

> >

> > But... if you would like to continue... and

> > we could start ANEW... I'm open :)

> >

> >

> > Bill

> >

> >

> >

>

> L.E: Bill, you are being too nice to someone who has no criteria of

> politeness or respect for others. They are always defending

something and interpreting

> others as attacking them. Do you know anything about narcissism?

Check it

> out on google and you will know who Len is.

>

> Larry Epston

>

 

Larry, I find your comments intrusive with respect to

my interaction with Len.

 

Please do not be intrusive like this.

 

Bill

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