Guest guest Posted April 16, 2006 Report Share Posted April 16, 2006 L.E: A good example of very bad teaching and advice. Read it carefully. His ideas are very negative and hostile to well-being. Larry Epston In a message dated 4/16/2006 4:14:39 AM Pacific Daylight Time, wwoehr writes: > > " Love is not a thing of the mind, is it? Love is not merely the > sexual act, is it? Love is something which the mind can not possibly > conceive. Love is something which cannot be formulated. And without > love, you become related; without love, you marry. Then, in that > marriage, you " adjust yourselves " to each other. Lovely phrase! You > adjust yourselves to each other, which is again an intellectual > process, is it not? . . . This adjustment is obviously a mental > process. All adjustments are. But, surely, love is incapable of > adjustment. You know, sirs, don't you, that if you love another, > there is no " adjustment. " There is only complete fusion. Only when > there is no love do we begin to adjust. And this adjustment is called > marriage. Hence, marriage fails, because it is the very source of > conflict, a battle between two people. It is an extraordinarily > complex problem, like all problems, but more so because the > appetites, the urges, are so strong. So, a mind which is merely > adjusting itself can never be chaste. A mind which is seeking > happiness through sex can never be chaste. Though you may momentarily > have, in that act, self-abnegation, self-forgetfulness, the very > pursuit of that happiness, which is of the mind, makes the mind > unchaste. Chastity comes into being only where there is love. " > > " Love Is Incapable of Adjustment " - The Book of Life (April 16) > > http://www.jkrishnamurti.org/index.php? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 16, 2006 Report Share Posted April 16, 2006 In a message dated 4/16/2006 6:20:05 AM Pacific Daylight Time, wwoehr writes: > All frauds are offering well being and at the same time they point at > the hostile teachings of their competitors. > > Werner L.E: That may be Werner, but honest teachers that know something of value may also point at their competitor's hostile and inadequate teachings. But as for me, I'm not offering anything to anyone. Just expressing my ideas, take it or leave it just like everyone else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 16, 2006 Report Share Posted April 16, 2006 In a message dated 4/16/2006 8:32:07 AM Pacific Daylight Time, illusyn writes: > Nisargadatta , epston wrote: > > > >L.E: A good example of very bad teaching and advice. > >Read it carefully. His ideas are very negative and hostile to > well-being. > > > >Larry Epston > > *To you* perhaps that is the way it seems. > > I suggest, however, that you will have difficulty > finding others to concur. > > Bill > L.E: Of course, how can it be otherwise? I don't look for others to concur. What others? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 16, 2006 Report Share Posted April 16, 2006 All frauds are offering well being and at the same time they point at the hostile teachings of their competitors. Werner Nisargadatta , epston wrote: > > L.E: A good example of very bad teaching and advice. > Read it carefully. His ideas are very negative and hostile to well- being. > > Larry Epston > > > In a message dated 4/16/2006 4:14:39 AM Pacific Daylight Time, > wwoehr writes: > > > > > " Love is not a thing of the mind, is it? Love is not merely the > > sexual act, is it? Love is something which the mind can not possibly > > conceive. Love is something which cannot be formulated. And without > > love, you become related; without love, you marry. Then, in that > > marriage, you " adjust yourselves " to each other. Lovely phrase! You > > adjust yourselves to each other, which is again an intellectual > > process, is it not? . . . This adjustment is obviously a mental > > process. All adjustments are. But, surely, love is incapable of > > adjustment. You know, sirs, don't you, that if you love another, > > there is no " adjustment. " There is only complete fusion. Only when > > there is no love do we begin to adjust. And this adjustment is called > > marriage. Hence, marriage fails, because it is the very source of > > conflict, a battle between two people. It is an extraordinarily > > complex problem, like all problems, but more so because the > > appetites, the urges, are so strong. So, a mind which is merely > > adjusting itself can never be chaste. A mind which is seeking > > happiness through sex can never be chaste. Though you may momentarily > > have, in that act, self-abnegation, self-forgetfulness, the very > > pursuit of that happiness, which is of the mind, makes the mind > > unchaste. Chastity comes into being only where there is love. " > > > > " Love Is Incapable of Adjustment " - The Book of Life (April 16) > > > > http://www.jkrishnamurti.org/index.php? > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 17, 2006 Report Share Posted April 17, 2006 In a message dated 4/17/2006 4:12:18 PM Pacific Daylight Time, gdtige writes: > <if you love another, there is no adjustement.. > There is only complete fusion... > One of the great proprietie of love, > That could fit you well Larry. > > Patricia L.E: This how fraudulant teachers create fantasy goals that no one can achieve and therefor add to the unhappiness of millions Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 18, 2006 Report Share Posted April 18, 2006 --- Werner Woehr <wwoehr a écrit : All frauds are offering well being and at the same time they point at the hostile teachings of their competitors. Werner Nisargadatta , epston wrote: > > L.E: A good example of very bad teaching and advice. > Read it carefully. His ideas are very negative and hostile to well- being. > > Larry Epston > > > In a message dated 4/16/2006 4:14:39 AM Pacific Daylight Time, > wwoehr writes: > > > > > " Love is not a thing of the mind, is it? Love is not merely the > > sexual act, is it? Love is something which the mind can not possibly > > conceive. Love is something which cannot be formulated. And without > > love, you become related; without love, you marry. Then, in that > > marriage, you " adjust yourselves " to each other. Lovely phrase! You > > adjust yourselves to each other, which is again an intellectual > > process, is it not? . . . This adjustment is obviously a mental > > process. All adjustments are. But, surely, love is incapable of > > adjustment. You know, sirs, don't you, that if you love another, > > there is no " adjustment. " There is only complete fusion. Only when > > there is no love do we begin to adjust. And this adjustment is called > > marriage. Hence, marriage fails, because it is the very source of > > conflict, a battle between two people. It is an extraordinarily > > complex problem, like all problems, but more so because the > > appetites, the urges, are so strong. So, a mind which is merely > > adjusting itself can never be chaste. A mind which is seeking > > happiness through sex can never be chaste. Though you may momentarily > > have, in that act, self-abnegation, self-forgetfulness, the very > > pursuit of that happiness, which is of the mind, makes the mind > > unchaste. Chastity comes into being only where there is love. " > > > > " Love Is Incapable of Adjustment " - The Book of Life (April 16) > > > > http://www.jkrishnamurti.org/index.php? > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] <if you love another, there is no adjustement.. There is only complete fusion... One of the great proprietie of love, That could fit you well Larry. Patricia ** If you do not wish to receive individual emails, to change your subscription, sign in with your ID and go to Edit My Groups: /mygroups?edit=1 Under the Message Delivery option, choose " No Email " for the Nisargadatta group and click on Save Changes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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