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Guest guest Posted April 18, 2006 Report Share Posted April 18, 2006 In a message dated 4/18/2006 6:14:55 AM Pacific Daylight Time, Nisargadatta writes: Tue, 18 Apr 2006 06:58:03 -0000 " dennis_travis33 " <dennis_travis33 behind the mind is a blue sky..... Marc Maybe it was a dream?................. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 19, 2006 Report Share Posted April 19, 2006 In a message dated 4/19/2006 12:12:06 AM Pacific Daylight Time, Nisargadatta writes: Wed, 19 Apr 2006 06:49:07 -0000 " dennis_travis33 " <dennis_travis33 Re: behind the mind Nisargadatta , ADHHUB wrote: > > > In a message dated 4/18/2006 6:14:55 AM Pacific Daylight Time, > Nisargadatta writes: > > Tue, 18 Apr 2006 06:58:03 -0000 > " dennis_travis33 " <dennis_travis33 > behind the mind > > > > is a blue sky..... > > Marc > > > > > Maybe it was a dream?................. > > LOL behind the mind is like a....blue sky.....up there.....behind the clouds ..... as i see....your mind is still working nicely..... there....and here.....in this nice and wonderful world (dream) Marc Behind the mind, I see nothing, and out of that nothing can come anything, though I don't see the Source, much to my dismay. A blue sky is a mental image which I assume you don't actually see. As a simile, it doesn't seem appropriate. Perhaps a starless night would be more so. And so I figure you must be engaged in one of those dreams you always talk about. You'll look for a way to devalue my perception, based on the way I see you talk to everyone who disagrees with your here, but could you consider the possibility that my perception is okay the way it is and I don't have to be devalued? Just an idea, Marc. No judgments being made here either way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 19, 2006 Report Share Posted April 19, 2006 Nisargadatta , ADHHUB wrote: > > > In a message dated 4/18/2006 6:14:55 AM Pacific Daylight Time, > Nisargadatta writes: > > Tue, 18 Apr 2006 06:58:03 -0000 > " dennis_travis33 " <dennis_travis33 > behind the mind > > > > is a blue sky..... > > Marc > > > > > Maybe it was a dream?................. > > LOL behind the mind is like a....blue sky.....up there.....behind the clouds ..... as i see....your mind is still working nicely..... there....and here.....in this nice and wonderful world (dream) Marc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 19, 2006 Report Share Posted April 19, 2006 Nisargadatta , ADHHUB wrote: > > > In a message dated 4/19/2006 12:12:06 AM Pacific Daylight Time, > Nisargadatta writes: > > Wed, 19 Apr 2006 06:49:07 -0000 > " dennis_travis33 " <dennis_travis33 > Re: behind the mind > > Nisargadatta , ADHHUB@ wrote: > > > > > > In a message dated 4/18/2006 6:14:55 AM Pacific Daylight Time, > > Nisargadatta writes: > > > > Tue, 18 Apr 2006 06:58:03 -0000 > > " dennis_travis33 " <dennis_travis33@> > > behind the mind > > > > > > > > is a blue sky..... > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > > Maybe it was a dream?................. > > > > > LOL > > behind the mind is like a....blue sky.....up there.....behind the > clouds ..... > > as i see....your mind is still working nicely..... > there....and here.....in this nice and wonderful world (dream) > > > > Marc > > > > Behind the mind, I see nothing, and out of that nothing can come anything, > though I don't see the Source, much to my dismay. A blue sky is a mental image > which I assume you don't actually see. As a simile, it doesn't seem > appropriate. Perhaps a starless night would be more so. And so I figure you must be > engaged in one of those dreams you always talk about. yes....this " behind the mind " is a wonderful subject.... there is nothing to tell about " behind the mind " ..... when there is meditation.....means, when the mind is calm...... then there is Self......an infinite nothingness...... so yes Phil (the analyst)....this " blue sky " is like a " picture " of It.....but it isn't It....for real i'm sorry, again Phil....i don't think that i'm " engaged in one of those dreams..... " not less than you.....and many others here maybe there are some people in here who believe that you are " closer to God " than " others " ......but this, still, remain ignorance....of both sides > You'll look for a way to devalue my perception, based on the way I see you > talk to everyone who disagrees with your here, but could you consider the > possibility that my perception is okay the way it is and I don't have to be > devalued? Just an idea, Marc. No judgments being made here either way. > not many appearing people in here with whom i could agree mostly..... whenever i disagree....i tell....and yes....maybe i tell it on a way.....that you don't appreciate much....i can understand that the " way " of talk.....is not " confortable " for some great " intellects " in here i have no problem with your perception...... but if you want to give the impression that you are " closer to God " than " others " .......then i'm sorry......for this " others " who believe you i don't read most of your posts.....to be sincere so i try to don't have discussions with you...... made the experience that this make no sense...... you ask me to " accept " your perceptions.....?....... don't worry Phil......i don't care much about your perceptions.... Marc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 19, 2006 Report Share Posted April 19, 2006 In a message dated 4/19/2006 1:44:41 AM Pacific Daylight Time, dennis_travis33 writes: > i have no problem with your perception...... > but if you want to give the impression that you are " closer to God " > than " others " .......then i'm sorry......for this " others " who believe > you > L.E: No judgment here! Are you trying to give the impression that you are closer to God than others Phil? He has pity on you, and for those you influence. That's a nice thought, right Phil? You see, you weren't able to dodge the bullet after all your careful effort. Ha ha! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 19, 2006 Report Share Posted April 19, 2006 In a message dated 4/19/2006 5:42:34 AM Pacific Daylight Time, Nisargadatta writes: Wed, 19 Apr 2006 08:44:13 -0000 " dennis_travis33 " <dennis_travis33 Re: behind the mind Nisargadatta , ADHHUB wrote: > > > In a message dated 4/19/2006 12:12:06 AM Pacific Daylight Time, > Nisargadatta writes: > > Wed, 19 Apr 2006 06:49:07 -0000 > " dennis_travis33 " <dennis_travis33 > Re: behind the mind > > Nisargadatta , ADHHUB@ wrote: > > > > > > In a message dated 4/18/2006 6:14:55 AM Pacific Daylight Time, > > Nisargadatta writes: > > > > Tue, 18 Apr 2006 06:58:03 -0000 > > " dennis_travis33 " <dennis_travis33@> > > behind the mind > > > > > > > > is a blue sky..... > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > > Maybe it was a dream?................. > > > > > LOL > > behind the mind is like a....blue sky.....up there.....behind the > clouds ..... > > as i see....your mind is still working nicely..... > there....and here.....in this nice and wonderful world (dream) > > > > Marc > > > > Behind the mind, I see nothing, and out of that nothing can come anything, > though I don't see the Source, much to my dismay. A blue sky is a mental image > which I assume you don't actually see. As a simile, it doesn't seem > appropriate. Perhaps a starless night would be more so. And so I figure you must be > engaged in one of those dreams you always talk about. yes....this " behind the mind " is a wonderful subject.... there is nothing to tell about " behind the mind " ..... when there is meditation.....means, when the mind is calm...... then there is Self......an infinite nothingness...... so yes Phil (the analyst)....this " blue sky " is like a " picture " of It.....but it isn't It....for real i'm sorry, again Phil....i don't think that i'm " engaged in one of those dreams..... " not less than you.....and many others here maybe there are some people in here who believe that you are " closer to God " than " others " ......but this, still, remain ignorance....of both sides > You'll look for a way to devalue my perception, based on the way I see you > talk to everyone who disagrees with your here, but could you consider the > possibility that my perception is okay the way it is and I don't have to be > devalued? Just an idea, Marc. No judgments being made here either way. > not many appearing people in here with whom i could agree mostly..... whenever i disagree....i tell....and yes....maybe i tell it on a way.....that you don't appreciate much....i can understand that the " way " of talk.....is not " confortable " for some great " intellects " in here i have no problem with your perception...... but if you want to give the impression that you are " closer to God " than " others " .......then i'm sorry......for this " others " who believe you i don't read most of your posts.....to be sincere so i try to don't have discussions with you...... made the experience that this make no sense...... you ask me to " accept " your perceptions.....?....... don't worry Phil......i don't care much about your perceptions.... Marc And so even when I ask you if you could consider not trying to devalue me, you do it anyway. It seems like it's automatic for you, doesn't it? When folks agree with you, you're pleasant. When they disagree, you devalue them. There's rarely a question asked, or an alternative view presented or even a simple disagreement voiced. The other has to be devalued. Now, where do you get the impression that I or anyone sees me as " closer to God " ? Haven't I stated repeatedly I'm the most ignorant person alive? I'm part of a minority here who has not implied that I'm somehow enlightened or that I've had some woo woo experience that nobody else could possibly understand. And yet you think I'm trying to convince others of my superiority? Don't you think I could do a better job than that? So, apparently, that idea comes from you and has nothing to do with my intentions. That's not an attack, Marc. It's an honest question. Do you really see me trying to convince others that I'm closer to God (whatever that means), or could you be misperceiving? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 20, 2006 Report Share Posted April 20, 2006 In a message dated 4/19/2006 11:08:33 AM Pacific Daylight Time, Nisargadatta writes: Wed, 19 Apr 2006 08:44:22 EDT epston Re: behind the mind In a message dated 4/19/2006 1:10:46 AM Pacific Daylight Time, ADHHUB writes: > You'll look for a way to devalue my perception, based on the way I see you > > talk to everyone who disagrees with your here, but could you consider the > possibility that my perception is okay the way it is and I don't have to be > > devalued? Just an idea, Marc. No judgments being made here either way. > L.E: Sure thing Phil. No judgment either way. And don't take this as a criticism, O.K? ( lets call this trying to dodge the bullet) Don't understand what yer trying to say, Larry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 20, 2006 Report Share Posted April 20, 2006 In a message dated 4/19/2006 11:08:33 AM Pacific Daylight Time, Nisargadatta writes: Wed, 19 Apr 2006 08:48:58 EDT epston Re: Re: behind the mind In a message dated 4/19/2006 1:44:41 AM Pacific Daylight Time, dennis_travis33 writes: > i have no problem with your perception...... > but if you want to give the impression that you are " closer to God " > than " others " .......then i'm sorry......for this " others " who believe > you > L.E: No judgment here! Are you trying to give the impression that you are closer to God than others Phil? He has pity on you, and for those you influence. That's a nice thought, right Phil? You see, you weren't able to dodge the bullet after all your careful effort. Ha ha! I'm thinkin I haven't been able to trick anybody into believing I'm closer to God, but maybe I'm wrong and some lurker has a little altar set up in their home to honor me, ya think? Wasn't trying to dodge the bullet but I thought maybe if I suggested there were alternatives to his pattern that he might actually look for one. That didn't work out so well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 20, 2006 Report Share Posted April 20, 2006 In a message dated 4/19/2006 8:06:28 PM Pacific Daylight Time, ADHHUB writes: > >You'll look for a way to devalue my perception, based on the way I see > you > > > > >talk to everyone who disagrees with your here, but could you consider the > > >possibility that my perception is okay the way it is and I don't have to > be > > > >devalued? Just an idea, Marc. No judgments being made here either way. > > > L.E: Sure thing Phil. No judgment either way. And don't take this as a > criticism, O.K? ( lets call this trying to dodge the bullet) > > L.E: I was trying to say he is going to devalue and put you down whatever you say, and he did. That is his bullet, and you were trying to avoid his criticism or dodge the bullet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 20, 2006 Report Share Posted April 20, 2006 In a message dated 4/19/2006 8:15:18 PM Pacific Daylight Time, ADHHUB writes: > > In a message dated 4/19/2006 11:08:33 AM Pacific Daylight Time, > Nisargadatta writes: > > Wed, 19 Apr 2006 08:48:58 EDT > epston > Re: Re: behind the mind > > In a message dated 4/19/2006 1:44:41 AM Pacific Daylight Time, > dennis_travis33 writes: > > >i have no problem with your perception...... > >but if you want to give the impression that you are " closer to God " > >than " others " .......then i'm sorry......for this " others " who believe > >you > > > > L.E: No judgment here! Are you trying to give the impression that you are > > closer to God than others Phil? > He has pity on you, and for those you influence. That's a nice thought, > right Phil? You see, you weren't able to dodge the bullet after all your > careful > effort. Ha ha! > > > > I'm thinkin I haven't been able to trick anybody into believing I'm closer > to God, but maybe I'm wrong and some lurker has a little altar set up in > their > home to honor me, ya think? > Wasn't trying to dodge the bullet but I thought maybe if I suggested there > were alternatives to his pattern that he might actually look for one. That > didn't work out so well. > L.E: No no! I don't do well talking with you. No, it didn't work out so well but trying to avoid it, is what I called trying to dodge the bullet. But he shot the bullet anyhow with his absurd " closer to god comment. " And you weren't able to dodge it, or keep him from trying to devalue you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 20, 2006 Report Share Posted April 20, 2006 In a message dated 4/19/2006 9:07:49 PM Pacific Daylight Time, Nisargadatta writes: Wed, 19 Apr 2006 23:59:52 EDT epston Re: behind the mind In a message dated 4/19/2006 8:06:28 PM Pacific Daylight Time, ADHHUB writes: > >You'll look for a way to devalue my perception, based on the way I see > you > > > > >talk to everyone who disagrees with your here, but could you consider the > > >possibility that my perception is okay the way it is and I don't have to > be > > > >devalued? Just an idea, Marc. No judgments being made here either way. > > > L.E: Sure thing Phil. No judgment either way. And don't take this as a > criticism, O.K? ( lets call this trying to dodge the bullet) > > L.E: I was trying to say he is going to devalue and put you down whatever you say, and he did. That is his bullet, and you were trying to avoid his criticism or dodge the bullet. Oh, I see. Again, the bullet is of no importance. I did want to see if the pattern could be broken. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 20, 2006 Report Share Posted April 20, 2006 In a message dated 4/20/2006 12:28:54 AM Pacific Daylight Time, Nisargadatta writes: Thu, 20 Apr 2006 07:03:57 -0000 " dennis_travis33 " <dennis_travis33 Re: behind the mind Nisargadatta , ADHHUB wrote: > > > In a message dated 4/19/2006 5:42:34 AM Pacific Daylight Time, > Nisargadatta writes: > > Wed, 19 Apr 2006 08:44:13 -0000 > " dennis_travis33 " <dennis_travis33 > Re: behind the mind > > Nisargadatta , ADHHUB@ wrote: > > > > > > In a message dated 4/19/2006 12:12:06 AM Pacific Daylight Time, > > Nisargadatta writes: > > > > Wed, 19 Apr 2006 06:49:07 -0000 > > " dennis_travis33 " <dennis_travis33@> > > Re: behind the mind > > > > Nisargadatta , ADHHUB@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > In a message dated 4/18/2006 6:14:55 AM Pacific Daylight Time, > > > Nisargadatta writes: > > > > > > Tue, 18 Apr 2006 06:58:03 -0000 > > > " dennis_travis33 " <dennis_travis33@> > > > behind the mind > > > > > > > > > > > > is a blue sky..... > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Maybe it was a dream?................. > > > > > > > > LOL > > > > behind the mind is like a....blue sky.....up there.....behind the > > clouds ..... > > > > as i see....your mind is still working nicely..... > > there....and here.....in this nice and wonderful world (dream) > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > Behind the mind, I see nothing, and out of that nothing can come > anything, > > though I don't see the Source, much to my dismay. A blue sky is a > mental image > > which I assume you don't actually see. As a simile, it doesn't seem > > appropriate. Perhaps a starless night would be more so. And so I > figure you must be > > engaged in one of those dreams you always talk about. > > > yes....this " behind the mind " is a wonderful subject.... > > there is nothing to tell about " behind the mind " ..... > > when there is meditation.....means, when the mind is calm...... > > then there is Self......an infinite nothingness...... > > so yes Phil (the analyst)....this " blue sky " is like a " picture " of > It.....but it isn't It....for real > > i'm sorry, again Phil....i don't think that i'm " engaged in one of > those dreams..... " > not less than you.....and many others here > maybe there are some people in here who believe that you are " closer > to God " than " others " ......but this, still, remain ignorance....of > both sides > > > > You'll look for a way to devalue my perception, based on the way I > see you > > talk to everyone who disagrees with your here, but could you > consider the > > possibility that my perception is okay the way it is and I don't > have to be > > devalued? Just an idea, Marc. No judgments being made here either > way. > > > > not many appearing people in here with whom i could agree mostly..... > whenever i disagree....i tell....and yes....maybe i tell it on a > way.....that you don't appreciate much....i can understand that > the " way " of talk.....is not " confortable " for some > great " intellects " in here > > i have no problem with your perception...... > but if you want to give the impression that you are " closer to God " > than " others " .......then i'm sorry......for this " others " who believe > you > > i don't read most of your posts.....to be sincere > > so i try to don't have discussions with you...... > made the experience that this make no sense...... > > you ask me to " accept " your perceptions.....?....... > > don't worry Phil......i don't care much about your perceptions.... > > Marc > > > > > And so even when I ask you if you could consider not trying to devalue me, > you do it anyway. It seems like it's automatic for you, doesn't it? When folks > agree with you, you're pleasant. When they disagree, you devalue them. > There's rarely a question asked, or an alternative view presented or even a simple > disagreement voiced. The other has to be devalued. > > Now, where do you get the impression that I or anyone sees me as " closer to > God " ? Haven't I stated repeatedly I'm the most ignorant person alive? I'm part > of a minority here who has not implied that I'm somehow enlightened or that > I've had some woo woo experience that nobody else could possibly understand. > And yet you think I'm trying to convince others of my superiority? Don't you > think I could do a better job than that? So, apparently, that idea comes from > you and has nothing to do with my intentions. > > That's not an attack, Marc. It's an honest question. Do you really see me > trying to convince others that I'm closer to God (whatever that means), or could > you be misperceiving? > > > > i remember that you started to talk about " God " ....during an intensive discussion......a discussion where different " perceptions " met..... if you are this your mentionned " most ignorant person... " .....why writing a book.......?..... would be a book about your " ignorance " ....?... please.....you know well, that there have been different " views, perceptions.... " concerning many subjects in some of our discussions..... it's interesting to a certain degree to have some nice discussions........but why having endless discussion when there mainly arise emotions ....and when there is " God " required to " solve " all problems....? you talk still about " devaluation " .... what, ever, could be devaluated other....than ignorance about Self.....? you fear the (healty) ego-mind to be devalutated?..... it would make no sense to discuss about subjects when it would only give evaluation of ego-mind.......at least, this is my point of view if i hurted you in the past with some " devaluation " .....i'm sorry about recently i tried realy to don't react on some of your messages you exchange with different people in here..... i remind you that you tried the last weeks....with some little words .....and (provocative) questions.....to enter in discussion again..... you see.....you have already the opinion....and you have been repeating since yesterday....that i wish to " devalue " everybody who has different perception than me........ thats not true.....i tried to answer to this Your view above i feel that the discussion in the group got more and more " scientific " only......it's true that the last weeks i rarely read messages in here which let me remind " behind the mind " ..... and then with this " ego " discussions....means, this discussion which are sooo much attached to " oranges and teeth... " .....i felt to be on the wrong place........ wish a nice day Phil Marc And you may be correct about the misguided direction of the discussions of ego and such. I can't say for sure and I don't believe you can either. If self inquiry or direct perception or ego integrity are not of interest to you, I fully understand. They are of interest to me and so I discuss them. Why am I writing a book without being enlightened? Seems to me lots of folks do that, and I also believe teachings have their place, as conceptual as they are. Perhaps you can recall a time when you at least believed some teaching that came from an unenlightened human was of value. I don't understand your comment about God and " different perceptions " , but apparently you heard something that sounded like a claim of enlightenment or spiritual superiority. Again, I make no such claims. " Discussions where emotions arise " ? Maybe you mean the recent ego blow ups. Well, it's potentially good ego work from my perspective, although I admit it isn't very inspiring. You have not " hurt " me with the devaluation. That wasn't the point. The point was that there is apparently a need on your part to do so. Again, it's my focus and not yours, but when I see patterns and apparent needs in others, I wonder if they know or care to notice them and how they may be obstructions to the realization of Truth. I'm not the ego police, it's just my way of exploring myself as reflected in others, and believe me, I'm always looking for that reflection. I'm a selfish bastard and what I want is far more important to me than whatever you or anyone else is being/doing, so there's never any judgment about what's said. I don't think I can take anybody's words that seriously anymore. Thanks for taking the time to answer sincerely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 20, 2006 Report Share Posted April 20, 2006 Nisargadatta , ADHHUB wrote: > > > In a message dated 4/19/2006 5:42:34 AM Pacific Daylight Time, > Nisargadatta writes: > > Wed, 19 Apr 2006 08:44:13 -0000 > " dennis_travis33 " <dennis_travis33 > Re: behind the mind > > Nisargadatta , ADHHUB@ wrote: > > > > > > In a message dated 4/19/2006 12:12:06 AM Pacific Daylight Time, > > Nisargadatta writes: > > > > Wed, 19 Apr 2006 06:49:07 -0000 > > " dennis_travis33 " <dennis_travis33@> > > Re: behind the mind > > > > Nisargadatta , ADHHUB@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > In a message dated 4/18/2006 6:14:55 AM Pacific Daylight Time, > > > Nisargadatta writes: > > > > > > Tue, 18 Apr 2006 06:58:03 -0000 > > > " dennis_travis33 " <dennis_travis33@> > > > behind the mind > > > > > > > > > > > > is a blue sky..... > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Maybe it was a dream?................. > > > > > > > > LOL > > > > behind the mind is like a....blue sky.....up there.....behind the > > clouds ..... > > > > as i see....your mind is still working nicely..... > > there....and here.....in this nice and wonderful world (dream) > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > Behind the mind, I see nothing, and out of that nothing can come > anything, > > though I don't see the Source, much to my dismay. A blue sky is a > mental image > > which I assume you don't actually see. As a simile, it doesn't seem > > appropriate. Perhaps a starless night would be more so. And so I > figure you must be > > engaged in one of those dreams you always talk about. > > > yes....this " behind the mind " is a wonderful subject.... > > there is nothing to tell about " behind the mind " ..... > > when there is meditation.....means, when the mind is calm...... > > then there is Self......an infinite nothingness...... > > so yes Phil (the analyst)....this " blue sky " is like a " picture " of > It.....but it isn't It....for real > > i'm sorry, again Phil....i don't think that i'm " engaged in one of > those dreams..... " > not less than you.....and many others here > maybe there are some people in here who believe that you are " closer > to God " than " others " ......but this, still, remain ignorance....of > both sides > > > > You'll look for a way to devalue my perception, based on the way I > see you > > talk to everyone who disagrees with your here, but could you > consider the > > possibility that my perception is okay the way it is and I don't > have to be > > devalued? Just an idea, Marc. No judgments being made here either > way. > > > > not many appearing people in here with whom i could agree mostly..... > whenever i disagree....i tell....and yes....maybe i tell it on a > way.....that you don't appreciate much....i can understand that > the " way " of talk.....is not " confortable " for some > great " intellects " in here > > i have no problem with your perception...... > but if you want to give the impression that you are " closer to God " > than " others " .......then i'm sorry......for this " others " who believe > you > > i don't read most of your posts.....to be sincere > > so i try to don't have discussions with you...... > made the experience that this make no sense...... > > you ask me to " accept " your perceptions.....?....... > > don't worry Phil......i don't care much about your perceptions.... > > Marc > > > > > And so even when I ask you if you could consider not trying to devalue me, > you do it anyway. It seems like it's automatic for you, doesn't it? When folks > agree with you, you're pleasant. When they disagree, you devalue them. > There's rarely a question asked, or an alternative view presented or even a simple > disagreement voiced. The other has to be devalued. > > Now, where do you get the impression that I or anyone sees me as " closer to > God " ? Haven't I stated repeatedly I'm the most ignorant person alive? I'm part > of a minority here who has not implied that I'm somehow enlightened or that > I've had some woo woo experience that nobody else could possibly understand. > And yet you think I'm trying to convince others of my superiority? Don't you > think I could do a better job than that? So, apparently, that idea comes from > you and has nothing to do with my intentions. > > That's not an attack, Marc. It's an honest question. Do you really see me > trying to convince others that I'm closer to God (whatever that means), or could > you be misperceiving? > > > > i remember that you started to talk about " God " ....during an intensive discussion......a discussion where different " perceptions " met..... if you are this your mentionned " most ignorant person... " .....why writing a book.......?..... would be a book about your " ignorance " ....?... please.....you know well, that there have been different " views, perceptions.... " concerning many subjects in some of our discussions..... it's interesting to a certain degree to have some nice discussions........but why having endless discussion when there mainly arise emotions ....and when there is " God " required to " solve " all problems....? you talk still about " devaluation " .... what, ever, could be devaluated other....than ignorance about Self.....? you fear the (healty) ego-mind to be devalutated?..... it would make no sense to discuss about subjects when it would only give evaluation of ego-mind.......at least, this is my point of view if i hurted you in the past with some " devaluation " .....i'm sorry about recently i tried realy to don't react on some of your messages you exchange with different people in here..... i remind you that you tried the last weeks....with some little words .....and (provocative) questions.....to enter in discussion again..... you see.....you have already the opinion....and you have been repeating since yesterday....that i wish to " devalue " everybody who has different perception than me........ thats not true.....i tried to answer to this Your view above i feel that the discussion in the group got more and more " scientific " only......it's true that the last weeks i rarely read messages in here which let me remind " behind the mind " ..... and then with this " ego " discussions....means, this discussion which are sooo much attached to " oranges and teeth... " .....i felt to be on the wrong place........ wish a nice day Phil Marc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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