Silver-No Harm Done

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In a message dated 4/16/2006 1:08:50 AM Pacific Daylight Time,

Roberibus111 writes:

 

SILVER YOU ARE A WAD! A NINCOMPOOP, AND A JERKOFF OF THE FIRST AND LAST

ORDER. YOU SEND ME DISGUSTING PERSONAL EMAILS. YOU TAKE MY POSTS WHICH I

DIRECTED

TO YOU AND CHANGE NAMES TO THE INNOCENT. YOU ARE A

CREEPY AND SICK LOSER! WHAT YOU HAVE TO SAY WOULD NOT INTEREST THE

LOWEST INMATE IN A PRISON FOR THE CRIMINALLY INSANE. AND IT WOULDN'T MAKE ANY

DAMN SENSE TO THEM EITHER.GET LOST YOU POOR EXCUSE FOR AN ASSHOLE. I'M REALLY

REALLY GETTING SICK OF YOUR SICKNESS. GO SEE A DOCTOR OR ANYONE WHO CAN HELP.

THEY ARE GOING TO LOCK YOU UP PUNK. YOU ARE NOT ONLY IGNORANT YOU ARE

DANGEROUS!

I LOVE YOU WITH A HATE AND A DISGUST!

 

BOB

 

I'VE CHANGED THE BELOW TO IT'S ORIGINAL FORMAT...AS IT WAS BEFORE

SOME VIRAL WET RAT CHANGED IT AND SENT IT TO THIS BOARD.

BOB NIXON

 

SILVER you stupid jerk....if you have anything at all to say to me..though

it's a HUGE stretch to even suggest your dumbass persona has anything at all, at

any time or place, to say about anything that makes sense, or can even be

construed as a statement...say it on this public board so that all can share in

the joke that you are. Don't EVER

send me a private email with your garbage mouth and ignorant nonsense again.

YOU GOT THAT PUNK! What kind of barn were you raised in you filthy

animal?.....Happy Easter.but FUCK YOU SILVER!

BOB NIXON aka bob/roberibus111

 

P. S. a little personal history shared on this board SILVER, may help us

understand your problems....quit trying to be a little pope and explain

youself.....Where did you come from???

 

 

 

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I am going through these posts one by one and they seem to be

getting worse. Larry, take heed. You've gone too far.

 

Silver

 

Nisargadatta , epston wrote:

>

> In a message dated 4/16/2006 1:08:50 AM Pacific Daylight Time,

> Roberibus111@ writes:

>

> SILVER YOU ARE A WAD! A NINCOMPOOP, AND A JERKOFF OF THE FIRST

AND LAST

> ORDER. YOU SEND ME DISGUSTING PERSONAL EMAILS. YOU TAKE MY POSTS

WHICH I DIRECTED

> TO YOU AND CHANGE NAMES TO THE INNOCENT. YOU ARE A

> CREEPY AND SICK LOSER! WHAT YOU HAVE TO SAY WOULD NOT INTEREST THE

> LOWEST INMATE IN A PRISON FOR THE CRIMINALLY INSANE. AND IT

WOULDN'T MAKE ANY

> DAMN SENSE TO THEM EITHER.GET LOST YOU POOR EXCUSE FOR AN ASSHOLE.

I'M REALLY

> REALLY GETTING SICK OF YOUR SICKNESS. GO SEE A DOCTOR OR ANYONE

WHO CAN HELP.

> THEY ARE GOING TO LOCK YOU UP PUNK. YOU ARE NOT ONLY IGNORANT YOU

ARE

> DANGEROUS!

> I LOVE YOU WITH A HATE AND A DISGUST!

>

> BOB

>

> I'VE CHANGED THE BELOW TO IT'S ORIGINAL FORMAT...AS IT WAS BEFORE

> SOME VIRAL WET RAT CHANGED IT AND SENT IT TO THIS BOARD.

> BOB NIXON

>

> SILVER you stupid jerk....if you have anything at all to say to

me..though

> it's a HUGE stretch to even suggest your dumbass persona has

anything at all, at

> any time or place, to say about anything that makes sense, or can

even be

> construed as a statement...say it on this public board so that all

can share in

> the joke that you are. Don't EVER

> send me a private email with your garbage mouth and ignorant

nonsense again.

> YOU GOT THAT PUNK! What kind of barn were you raised in you filthy

> animal?.....Happy Easter.but FUCK YOU SILVER!

> BOB NIXON aka bob/roberibus111

>

> P. S. a little personal history shared on this board SILVER, may

help us

> understand your problems....quit trying to be a little pope and

explain

> youself.....Where did you come from???

>

>

>

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In a message dated 4/19/2006 12:09:02 AM Pacific Daylight Time,

silver-1069 writes:

 

>

> I am going through these posts one by one and they seem to be

> getting worse. Larry, take heed. You've gone too far.

>

> Silver

 

L.E: Oh! It's O.K. if this obscene garbage is directed at me but when

directed at you, I've gone too far?

And you are warning me? And no comments on Bob's behavior? Very weird.

 

 

 

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In a message dated 4/19/2006 5:42:34 AM Pacific Daylight Time,

Nisargadatta writes:

 

Wed, 19 Apr 2006 08:34:38 EDT

epston

Re: Re: Silver-No Harm Done

 

In a message dated 4/19/2006 12:09:02 AM Pacific Daylight Time,

silver-1069 writes:

 

>

> I am going through these posts one by one and they seem to be

> getting worse. Larry, take heed. You've gone too far.

>

> Silver

 

L.E: Oh! It's O.K. if this obscene garbage is directed at me but when

directed at you, I've gone too far?

And you are warning me? And no comments on Bob's behavior? Very weird.

 

 

 

Listen! I don't care who punched who in the shoulder first. You're upsetting

your mother. Don't make me pull over or believe you, me, you'll be sorry!

 

 

 

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In a message dated 4/19/2006 2:44:19 PM Pacific Daylight Time, ADHHUB

writes:

 

>

> Listen! I don't care who punched who in the shoulder first. You're

> upsetting

> your mother. Don't make me pull over or believe you, me, you'll be sorry!

>

>

L.E: That's too bad that you don't care. There's a difference between a

bully and a victim and it's important to know the difference. It's also

important

to know who is the aggressor and who is being attacted and if you don't care

about that either, you are rather useless.

 

 

 

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In a message dated 4/19/2006 4:57:55 PM Pacific Daylight Time,

Nisargadatta writes:

 

Wed, 19 Apr 2006 17:48:00 EDT

epston

Re: Silver-No Harm Done

 

In a message dated 4/19/2006 2:44:19 PM Pacific Daylight Time,

ADHHUB

writes:

 

>

> Listen! I don't care who punched who in the shoulder first. You're

> upsetting

> your mother. Don't make me pull over or believe you, me, you'll be sorry!

>

>

L.E: That's too bad that you don't care. There's a difference between a

bully and a victim and it's important to know the difference. It's also

important

to know who is the aggressor and who is being attacted and if you don't care

about that either, you are rather useless.

 

 

 

I understand your concern, Larry, and I guess I'll try to address it now

before Hur tells me I can't discuss it at all, in case he is so inclined.

You clearly feel that everyone is blaming you and at least Bob gets off

scott free, perhaps others. There are a few reasons that it worked out that way.

To begin with, you were the one to invade Bob's mailbox, at least 11 times as

I understand it. You did the same to me today, as you have in the past, and

so I can guess you've done this to others here as well, and so finding allies

may be difficult for that reason. Also, you posted belligerent messages

directed at 3 people on this list, and signed Bob's name to it. It's unclear

what

Len or Silver did to warrant this. I understand you were trying to make a

point but deceptive posting using obscenities is not the way to make a point;

it

didn't work for Bob and it didn't work for you. You've also placed judgment

on at least 5 of the members of this list in the last week, and so possibly

expecting an unbiased view from them would be a bit optimistic. (Bob has

attacked only you as I recall.)

 

Lastly, and at least from my own perspective, I don't comment to folks as a

way of placing blame or expressing my disapproval. This is all judgment based.

I've responded when it seemed to me that somebody was failing to notice

something. Bob got very angry and his choice of wording was unfortunate. His

borderline obsessive pursuit of you was a bit much too, but it's my perception

that none of this was hidden from him. He knew he was getting obsessive and he

knew he lost control. To me, nothing was hidden and so what was there to say?

Anything said would have simply been punitive.

 

On the other hand, you seem for the most part oblivious to the unconscious

processes going on in you that we discussed for a week before the 'event'.

Your perceptions are mostly projections and your judgment has been obscured by

your anger. Personally, even though you and Bob both 'lost it', I feel no

animosity toward either of you. I understand that everybody does the best they

can and I certainly understand the power of unconscious ego processes. Maybe

the best thing to do is to let it all go if that's possible for you.

 

 

 

 

 

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In a message dated 4/19/2006 11:04:43 PM Pacific Daylight Time,

ADHHUB writes:

 

> On the other hand, you seem for the most part oblivious to the unconscious

>

> processes going on in you that we discussed for a week before the 'event'.

> Your perceptions are mostly projections and your judgment has been obscured

> by

> your anger. Personally, even though you and Bob both 'lost it', I feel no

> animosity toward either of you. I understand that everybody does the best

> they

> can and I certainly understand the power of unconscious ego processes.

> Maybe

> the best thing to do is to let it all go if that's possible for you.

>

>

L.E: You say much more than I prefer to deal with. Too many words. But a

couple of comments. If a process is unconscious it is not surprising that a

person would not be aware of it. And how is it that you pretent to be aware of

something that in another is unconscious? Very weird.

Second, I don't see an emailbox as a private domain or feel a need to ask

permission to send someone an email. Perhaps you do and that's your choice.

I altered Bob's nasty and abusive email so Len and Silver could feel what

it's like to have that kind of hate directed at them because they were

supporting

the violence Bob was directing at me. I really didn't see that as some kind

of major offense or crime against anyone since it was obvious what I was

doing. And I still don't. You made me the bad guy for altering the email but

never addressed Bob's abuse.

Also, you've got it totally wrong about how the whole attack started. I

simply responded to one of Bob's public emails that I didn't want to read his

posts and that I found his attitude repulsive. That's what set him off on his

obsessive rampage. I didn't respond to him until way after he had taken after

me and wrote many nasty hostile comments about my posts. The only thing I

eventually sent to his " private " email was copies of his own nasty words about

me

to others. What he did was way out of line for way too long, and I wonder what

took Hur so long to interceed, but when she finally did, Bob took off, no

longer having anything to offer. So that's part of it, and don't minimize what

Bob did, It was very painful. As if you have the capacity to care. Is lack of

empathy a major or minor problem you experience?

 

 

 

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In a message dated 4/20/2006 3:06:15 AM Pacific Daylight Time,

silver-1069 writes:

 

> Okay Larry. You're right. Bob crossed the line, too. Viscious name-

> calling and obscene language really is inappropriate behaviour between

> grown men in a public forum.

>

> Silver

 

L.E: Look bud, I never crossed the line into obsenity and meaness. I sent

Bob back his own messages of hate and never insulted him. I also changed the

name on his really wretched email so you and Len would know what it felt like

to have that kind of anger directed at you. It wasn't exactly like pirating

someone's copyright on a creative work was it? And your letter to Hur was

really mean and unkind, and your lack of empathy was preverse at the least.

 

 

 

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Nisargadatta , epston wrote:

>

> In a message dated 4/19/2006 12:09:02 AM Pacific Daylight Time,

> silver-1069 writes:

>

> >

> > I am going through these posts one by one and they seem to be

> > getting worse. Larry, take heed. You've gone too far.

> >

> > Silver

>

> L.E: Oh! It's O.K. if this obscene garbage is directed at me but

when

> directed at you, I've gone too far?

> And you are warning me? And no comments on Bob's behavior? Very

weird.

**********

Okay Larry. You're right. Bob crossed the line, too. Viscious name-

calling and obscene language really is inappropriate behaviour between

grown men in a public forum.

 

Silver

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In a message dated 4/20/2006 7:16:51 AM Pacific Daylight Time,

Nisargadatta writes:

 

Thu, 20 Apr 2006 07:56:33 EDT

epston

Re: Silver-No Harm Done

 

In a message dated 4/19/2006 11:04:43 PM Pacific Daylight Time,

ADHHUB writes:

 

> On the other hand, you seem for the most part oblivious to the unconscious

 

>

> processes going on in you that we discussed for a week before the 'event'.

 

> Your perceptions are mostly projections and your judgment has been

obscured

> by

> your anger. Personally, even though you and Bob both 'lost it', I feel no

> animosity toward either of you. I understand that everybody does the best

> they

> can and I certainly understand the power of unconscious ego processes.

> Maybe

> the best thing to do is to let it all go if that's possible for you.

>

>

L.E: You say much more than I prefer to deal with. Too many words. But a

couple of comments. If a process is unconscious it is not surprising that a

person would not be aware of it. And how is it that you pretent to be aware

of

something that in another is unconscious? Very weird.

 

 

 

As I've mentioned before, I've done counseling in some form for about 15

years and I've explored these same processes in myself in detail. Also, my

intuition is very useful and accurate. Yes, I most definitely can see the

processes going on in you that you yourself cannot. Len sees it also. It's not

weird

at all, such things are obvious to anyone who has seen their own.

 

 

The rest of your post is just the justification and victimology to keep you

from paying attention to anything that's being said to you that threatens

that process.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Thu, 20 Apr 2006 07:56:33 EDT

epston

Re: Silver-No Harm Done

 

In a message dated 4/19/2006 11:04:43 PM Pacific Daylight Time,

ADHHUB writes:

 

> On the other hand, you seem for the most part oblivious to the unconscious

 

>

> processes going on in you that we discussed for a week before the 'event'.

 

> Your perceptions are mostly projections and your judgment has been

obscured

> by

> your anger. Personally, even though you and Bob both 'lost it', I feel no

> animosity toward either of you. I understand that everybody does the best

> they

> can and I certainly understand the power of unconscious ego processes.

> Maybe

> the best thing to do is to let it all go if that's possible for you.

>

>

L.E: You say much more than I prefer to deal with. Too many words. But a

couple of comments. If a process is unconscious it is not surprising that a

person would not be aware of it. And how is it that you pretent to be aware

of

something that in another is unconscious? Very weird.

Second, I don't see an emailbox as a private domain or feel a need to ask

permission to send someone an email. Perhaps you do and that's your choice.

I altered Bob's nasty and abusive email so Len and Silver could feel what

it's like to have that kind of hate directed at them because they were

supporting

the violence Bob was directing at me. I really didn't see that as some kind

of major offense or crime against anyone since it was obvious what I was

doing. And I still don't. You made me the bad guy for altering the email

but

never addressed Bob's abuse.

Also, you've got it totally wrong about how the whole attack started. I

simply responded to one of Bob's public emails that I didn't want to read

his

posts and that I found his attitude repulsive. That's what set him off on

his

obsessive rampage. I didn't respond to him until way after he had taken

after

me and wrote many nasty hostile comments about my posts. The only thing I

eventually sent to his " private " email was copies of his own nasty words

about me

to others. What he did was way out of line for way too long, and I wonder

what

took Hur so long to interceed, but when she finally did, Bob took off, no

longer having anything to offer. So that's part of it, and don't minimize

what

Bob did, It was very painful. As if you have the capacity to care. Is lack

of

empathy a major or minor problem you experience?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Second, I don't see an emailbox as a private domain or feel a need to ask

permission to send someone an email. Perhaps you do and that's your choice.

I altered Bob's nasty and abusive email so Len and Silver could feel what

it's like to have that kind of hate directed at them because they were

supporting

the violence Bob was directing at me. I really didn't see that as some kind

of major offense or crime against anyone since it was obvious what I was

doing. And I still don't. You made me the bad guy for altering the email

but

never addressed Bob's abuse.

Also, you've got it totally wrong about how the whole attack started. I

simply responded to one of Bob's public emails that I didn't want to read

his

posts and that I found his attitude repulsive. That's what set him off on

his

obsessive rampage. I didn't respond to him until way after he had taken

after

me and wrote many nasty hostile comments about my posts. The only thing I

eventually sent to his " private " email was copies of his own nasty words

about me

to others. What he did was way out of line for way too long, and I wonder

what

took Hur so long to interceed, but when she finally did, Bob took off, no

longer having anything to offer. So that's part of it, and don't minimize

what

Bob did, It was very painful. As if you have the capacity to care. Is lack

of

empathy a major or minor problem you experience?