Guest guest Posted April 20, 2006 Report Share Posted April 20, 2006 Question: How do you see yourself? L.E: I am life itself, the One Life, the totality of all existence and non-existence. Everything that happens occurs within me as me. There is a body and a name but that is not me. Beyond all names and forms, as life itself, that is who and what I am. Larry Epston > > Marc: Could a responsible person of the group tolerate that there is > kind of seperated group (start to) exist in here....? what is this > " questions " and " answers " game?..... > > > > Phil: it remind me the " publicity break " in the middle of movies....maybe > it's a new " art " of entertainment.....who knows... Just an opinion: It > appears that Larry is attempting to gain credibility/attention by posting the > words of others; likely a > master/teacher. The reason they appear to me to not be his words is that > they seem to make sense. If I'm correct, then he's plagiarizing. If I'm > mistaken, then I apologize for my error. > > Marc: yes....it's clear that Larry need absolutly this > " credibility/attention " ...... > it's the attitude of every ego-minded entity (illusion...)maybe the words > make little sense....thats not the question.....but then Larry could create a > group....in which he could talk only about this his perceptions.... > i remind you that few people already decided to leave the group because of > Larry...... > i understand this you attitude to " protect " Larry....because of Your > nice discussions you exchange with him.......but this means that you don't > realy care if some others leave....or not... > > Phil: I have no motivation to protect Larry or anyone here. My " discussions " > with > Larry are not valued any more or less than any other discussion. Perhaps > what > you see is me not judging Larry or campaigning for him to leave. I don't > care > if he leaves or stays. You are correct that I also don't care if others > leave or stay. I wasn't put in charge of the forum and it's none of my > business > what others do. Even on my own forum, I don't pretend to have control. I > invite God into the forum (That means surrender to what is.) and accept > whatever > is occurring. Interestingly, in the years I've had one forum or another, > there > has never been an ego explosion such as we just witnessed. If there is no > illusion of control, it's not necessary to prove that illusion false in > one's > experience. > L.E: Strange how Marc will pick up any critcism of me and try to amplify it and play it up. Now he is accusing me of making people leave the group. Not Bob with his violence and obcenity, his rude insults, no not Bob, but Larry with his claim of Universal Identity. That is what really offends Marc and Marc is always offended at someone's ignorance where he finds no one on this list worthwhile for his attention and concern. He shares a kind of negative rejection with Werner. But, as for the group. People come, people go. They can contribute or not. No one knows who is in the group but doesn't post, and how does Marc know who has left and for what reason? Could it be that Bob's constant insults were a turn-off for some? So please Marc, how about some names? Who has left our group because of my postings? Name someone, anyone, or are you just making it up, just trying to add additional discredit for your own satisfaction, your own meaness and negativity? Larry Epston To Phil: You write: Even on my own forum, I don't pretend to have control. I invite God into the forum (That means surrender to what is.) and accept whatever is occurring. Interestingly, in the years I've had one forum or another, there has never been an ego explosion such as we just witnessed. If there is no illusion of control, it's not necessary to prove that illusion false in one's experience. " L.E: Surrendering to what is does not mean non-participation. And accepting whatever is does not mean avoidance. If you have the freedom that comes from knowing who and what you are, any choice you make is he right one, spontaneously. It does not in any way mean standing back and observing from a distance like a psychologist watching lab rats. I wonder if you know this. Do you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 20, 2006 Report Share Posted April 20, 2006 Nisargadatta , epston wrote: > > Question: How do you see yourself? > > L.E: I am life itself, the One Life, the totality of all > existence and non-existence. Everything that happens occurs within me as > me. > There is a body and a name but that is not me. > Beyond all names and forms, as life itself, that is who and what I am. > > Larry Epston > > > > Marc: Could a responsible person of the group tolerate that there is > > kind of seperated group (start to) exist in here....? what is this > > " questions " and " answers " game?..... > > > > > > > > Phil: it remind me the " publicity break " in the middle of movies....maybe > > it's a new " art " of entertainment.....who knows... Just an opinion: It > > appears that Larry is attempting to gain credibility/attention by posting the > > words of others; likely a > > master/teacher. The reason they appear to me to not be his words is that > > they seem to make sense. If I'm correct, then he's plagiarizing. If I'm > > mistaken, then I apologize for my error. > > > > Marc: yes....it's clear that Larry need absolutly this > > " credibility/attention " ...... > > it's the attitude of every ego-minded entity (illusion...)maybe the words > > make little sense....thats not the question.....but then Larry could create a > > group....in which he could talk only about this his perceptions.... > > i remind you that few people already decided to leave the group because of > > Larry...... > > i understand this you attitude to " protect " Larry....because of Your > > nice discussions you exchange with him.......but this means that you don't > > realy care if some others leave....or not... > > > > Phil: I have no motivation to protect Larry or anyone here. My " discussions " > > with > > Larry are not valued any more or less than any other discussion. Perhaps > > what > > you see is me not judging Larry or campaigning for him to leave. I don't > > care > > if he leaves or stays. You are correct that I also don't care if others > > leave or stay. I wasn't put in charge of the forum and it's none of my > > business > > what others do. Even on my own forum, I don't pretend to have control. I > > invite God into the forum (That means surrender to what is.) and accept > > whatever > > is occurring. Interestingly, in the years I've had one forum or another, > > there > > has never been an ego explosion such as we just witnessed. If there is no > > illusion of control, it's not necessary to prove that illusion false in > > one's > > experience. > > > > L.E: Strange how Marc will pick up any critcism of me and try to amplify it > and play it up. Now he is accusing me of making people leave the group. Not > Bob with his violence and obcenity, his rude insults, no not Bob, but Larry with > his claim of Universal Identity. That is what really offends Marc and Marc > is always offended at someone's ignorance where he finds no one on this list > worthwhile for his attention and concern. He shares a kind of negative > rejection with Werner. > But, as for the group. People come, people go. They can contribute or not. > No one knows who is in the group but doesn't post, and how does Marc know who > has left and for what reason? Could it be that Bob's constant insults were a > turn-off for some? So please Marc, how about some names? Who has left our > group because of my postings? Name someone, anyone, or are you just making it > up, just trying to add additional discredit for your own satisfaction, your > own meaness and negativity? > > Larry Epston > ....as far i see.......if this continue......there will be 99% of posts by this your " Universal Identity " ..... i didn't know that this " Universal Identity " has a name......and a form.... and is called " Larry E. " ..... what a great illumination! Marc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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