Guest guest Posted April 20, 2006 Report Share Posted April 20, 2006 In a message dated 4/20/2006 7:35:04 AM Pacific Daylight Time, lastrain writes: > Death can occur before the physical body dies. > > Death is when the emptiness on the inside........flows into the > emptiness on the outside. > > > > toombaru > > > L.E: Let's consider the cookie jar. The cookies are in the cookie jar. Question: Where are the cookies? L.E: The outside of the cookie jar is not separated from the inside of the cookie jar. The outside flows into and is part of the outside and the inside flows into and is part of the outside. Question: What happens when you put a lid or cover on the cookie jar? L.E: When you put a lid on the cookie jar, while the lid is on, inside and outside are defined by the position of the lid. Question: If inside and outside are created by the lid, do they ever really exist? L.E: The cookie jar itself is just a membrane that is open. When the lid is added the surface is enclosed. When it is enclosed, inside and outside exist, but only as concepts or ideas of location. In reality it is irrelevant to argue if the cookies are inside or outside as long as you can eat a cookie when you want one. Question: Are you avoiding the question? L.E: The question of inside and outside are irrelevant as long as you can find the cookies. In a message dated 4/20/2006 7:35:04 AM Pacific Daylight Time, lastrain writes: > Death can occur before the physical body dies. > > Death is when the emptiness on the inside........flows into the > emptiness on the outside. > Toombaru L.E: When there is no difference between the inside and the outside, the physical body will die. As long as emptiness is flowing, and it only flows when there is a difference, the body exists. When there is no difference, the body will die. But, when the self is emptied of self and only Self remains, and enlightenment is experienced. Yet only Self exists both before and after emptying. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 20, 2006 Report Share Posted April 20, 2006 Death can occur before the physical body dies. Death is when the emptiness on the inside........flows into the emptiness on the outside. toombaru Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 20, 2006 Report Share Posted April 20, 2006 Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain wrote: > > > > Death can occur before the physical body dies. > > Death is when the emptiness on the inside........flows into the > emptiness on the outside. > > > > toombaru There are too many dead people talking. The one who has died, fully died, died to the extent of never having been. So even the death is not. No traces are left. No talk is being profferred. Know this one. The talking is done by imaginary beings. What isn't imagined, isn't doing any talking. " The Tao that can be proffered, isn't the true Tao. " Your friendly, neighborhood imagined being -- -- Prof. Fer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 23, 2009 Report Share Posted May 23, 2009 Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > > > The Great Way has no gate; > > > there are a thousand paths to it. > > > If you pass through the barrier, > > > you walk the universe alone. > > > > And a P.S.: > > > > Excellent quote, thanks for sharing it. > > > > Fits right in, if anyone hears it. > > It took me five years of actively dying to even begin to 'hear' what it means. Thankfully, five years without the pollution of spiritual words... without anything but steadily shrinking 'horizons' and impending death. Death is the great teacher for humanity. What it is, is avoided. And thus, humans attempt to avoid being human. Humans want to have. Without losing. Humans want to be born, without dying. Death doesn't see separately existing beings, treats all equally, offers no teaching, doesn't permit avoidance or deceit, and simply is as is. Believing death to be separate from birth is misunderstanding. Believing death to be an event that occurs later on, is misunderstanding. Believing death to be something someone can inflict on someone else, is misunderstanding. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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