Phil as Bystander

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In a message dated 4/20/2006 5:50:18 PM Pacific Daylight Time, ADHHUB

writes:

 

> If you see me standing back and observing, maybe you missed all the posts

> in

> which I've been pointing out your struggle, judgment and unconscious ego

> processes. The irony is that this has been done continuously, before, during

> and

> after your ego adventure here. Instead of listening and exploring, you've

> been denying, and now you deny that I even participated. All you can see is

> that

> I didn't judge Bob and the others and defend you.

 

L.E: Did you at least pray for me and ask you god if you have one, to stop

Bob from attacking me? Did you do anything or say anything to Bob as he was

displaying his viscious and obscene comments? I don't think so.

You tell me. Even now you focus on me and avoid dealing with that maniac.

Very strange. Yes, you didn't judge Bob, but did you do anything along with

the others to try to stop him. Or were you enjoying the show? It's like those

who are willing to stand bye when a rape is occurring and pride themselves on

not making judgement or interferring.

 

 

 

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In a message dated 4/20/2006 8:41:34 PM Pacific Daylight Time,

Nisargadatta writes:

 

Thu, 20 Apr 2006 22:14:29 EDT

epston

Phil as Bystander

 

In a message dated 4/20/2006 5:50:18 PM Pacific Daylight Time,

ADHHUB

writes:

 

> If you see me standing back and observing, maybe you missed all the posts

> in

> which I've been pointing out your struggle, judgment and unconscious ego

> processes. The irony is that this has been done continuously, before,

during

> and

> after your ego adventure here. Instead of listening and exploring, you've

> been denying, and now you deny that I even participated. All you can see

is

> that

> I didn't judge Bob and the others and defend you.

 

L.E: Did you at least pray for me and ask you god if you have one, to stop

Bob from attacking me? Did you do anything or say anything to Bob as he was

displaying his viscious and obscene comments? I don't think so.

You tell me. Even now you focus on me and avoid dealing with that maniac.

Very strange. Yes, you didn't judge Bob, but did you do anything along with

the others to try to stop him. Or were you enjoying the show? It's like

those

who are willing to stand bye when a rape is occurring and pride themselves

on

not making judgement or interferring.

 

 

 

To begin with, nobody has been raped. All your suffering is the result of

pixels on a screen, so lets keep it in perspective.

 

What you experience is not objectively occurring, it's a creation of your

perception. Your perception IS your creation. As such, it's a bit silly for you

to enlist me to help you do battle with your own creations. What I have done

is tried to offer you another perspective so that you can stop creating what

you don't like, but my interest in doing that is all but gone because I

don't see you as something objective in my experience either. You are also not

a

problem to be corrected.

 

Watching you shift your perspective would be a joyful experience for me, and

that's the only reason I've been jabbering with you about it at all, but I

won't put myself in the position of struggling with my creations while I help

you to stop struggling with yours. This is why Len has already stopped, and

I'm right behind. If there truly is no willingness on your part, Len and I will

both be bystanders sitting on the park bench, watching you spin. There's

nothing else to be done.