Guest guest Posted April 21, 2006 Report Share Posted April 21, 2006 In a message dated 4/21/2006 8:03:42 AM Pacific Daylight Time, wwoehr writes: > Larry, > > Strange thing this spirituality for > > 1) People who don't know where to begin > 2) For beginners > 3) For advanced ones > > Why not writig a vade-mecum like > > " Volume 1 - Spirituality for beginners " > " Volume 2 - Spirituality for the nearly englightened " ? > > Werner L.E: Those books already exist. I don't need to write another one. But the beginner will not recognize or accept what the " nearly enlightened " or fully enlightened says is true. He will refuse to recognize the truth until he is far along, then he will say what a fool I have been not to have seen this years ago. Perhaps Niz is the exception. He trusted his teacher and his teacher was in truth so Niz arrived at truth. The exception to the rule. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 21, 2006 Report Share Posted April 21, 2006 In a message dated 4/21/2006 9:04:51 AM Pacific Daylight Time, wwoehr writes: > What I wrote was partly a bit joking but also meant as serious > mockery. > > This whole spirituality trip is pretty confusing, especially for > those who read some of those appetizers but whose destiny is never to > get liberated like most of us won't. > > But if one looks arround and watches the " scene " like this Niz list > here one will realize a huge amount of spiritual/mental jabber going > on. Some people are pretty good in convincing themselves and others > are not. > > It is mostly all just this hope maybe one day to see fulfilled what > one has read and that's it. > > Werner > > > L.E: The problem is that you object to what it is and that is your limitation. Come on Werner, get with it. It's a process with people going through different stages. Brighten up, get a little smile on. You are too grumpy! Everyone is trying to work it out, and a few have and many haven't but are trying so, be happy. If you are going to be ignorant, stupid and lost in illusion for your life, you might as well have a good time and enjoy being here in life for the short time it is. It's not " jabber " to me it's fun, to others it is a serious challenge. Enjoy it and stop resenting, you are just making yourself unhappy. Think of all the people that run races. Everybody loses but the top three. So what. They continue trying and mostly enjoy the training and it keeps them healthy. Maybe most will not see everything, but most will see more than they started with. And in conclusion, I don't think there is a destiny. Everything is free and open and possible within the sense of the ordinary. Nothing is closed off by destiny. Larry Epston Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 21, 2006 Report Share Posted April 21, 2006 Larry, What I wrote was partly a bit joking but also meant as serious mockery. This whole spirituality trip is pretty confusing, especially for those who read some of those appetizers but whose destiny is never to get liberated like most of us won't. But if one looks arround and watches the " scene " like this Niz list here one will realize a huge amount of spiritual/mental jabber going on. Some people are pretty good in convincing themselves and others are not. It is mostly all just this hope maybe one day to see fulfilled what one has read and that's it. Werner Nisargadatta , epston wrote: > > In a message dated 4/21/2006 8:03:42 AM Pacific Daylight Time, > wwoehr writes: > > > Larry, > > > > Strange thing this spirituality for > > > > 1) People who don't know where to begin > > 2) For beginners > > 3) For advanced ones > > > > Why not writig a vade-mecum like > > > > " Volume 1 - Spirituality for beginners " > > " Volume 2 - Spirituality for the nearly englightened " ? > > > > Werner > > L.E: Those books already exist. I don't need to write another one. But the > beginner will not recognize or accept what the " nearly enlightened " or fully > enlightened says is true. He will refuse to recognize the truth until he is far > along, then he will say what a fool I have been not to have seen this years > ago. Perhaps Niz is the exception. He trusted his teacher and his teacher was > in truth so Niz arrived at truth. The exception to the rule. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 21, 2006 Report Share Posted April 21, 2006 Nisargadatta , epston wrote: > LE: > ... Brighten up, get a little smile on. You are too grumpy! Yes -- There is no time like the present! There is nothing lacking -- all 'this' is immediately available! > Everything is free and open and possible within the sense of the > ordinary. Nothing is closed off by destiny. Indeed. My destiny is indeterminacy! -- Dan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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