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In a message dated 4/21/2006 12:42:42 PM Pacific Daylight Time,

lastrain writes:

 

> " We' can only see that which is on 'our' past.

>

>

> toombaru

>

> L.E: " On our past? " Do you mean IN our past? And why are there quotes

> around the word 'our?' If you mean in our past, that's ridiculous. There is

> the present, where we can see exactly what is here in front or behind us.

> Oh! You mean 'our' does not include you who probably has no past, being

> always in the present. Is that why the quote?

 

 

 

 

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Nisargadatta , epston wrote:

>

> In a message dated 4/21/2006 12:42:42 PM Pacific Daylight Time,

> lastrain writes:

>

> > " We' can only see that which is on 'our' past.

> >

> >

> > toombaru

> >

> > L.E: " On our past? " Do you mean IN our past? And why are there

quotes

> > around the word 'our?' If you mean in our past, that's

ridiculous. There is

> > the present, where we can see exactly what is here in front or

behind us.

> > Oh! You mean 'our' does not include you who probably has no past,

being

> > always in the present. Is that why the quote?

>

>

 

I did mean to write 'in'....but I kinda like 'on' better....:-)

 

Our is in quotes to convey the false sense of self.

 

 

We are never in the present.

 

We can only look behind of our selves.....and it takes a tenth of a

second for a physical brain to assimilate incoming stimuli.

 

It is always a little behind the flow.

 

 

 

toombaru

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Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain

wrote:

>

> Nisargadatta , epston@ wrote:

> >

> > In a message dated 4/21/2006 12:42:42 PM Pacific Daylight Time,

> > lastrain@ writes:

> >

> > > " We' can only see that which is on 'our' past.

> > >

> > >

> > > toombaru

> > >

> > > L.E: " On our past? " Do you mean IN our past? And why are there

> quotes

> > > around the word 'our?' If you mean in our past, that's

> ridiculous. There is

> > > the present, where we can see exactly what is here in front or

> behind us.

> > > Oh! You mean 'our' does not include you who probably has no

past,

> being

> > > always in the present. Is that why the quote?

> >

> >

>

> I did mean to write 'in'....but I kinda like 'on' better....:-)

>

> Our is in quotes to convey the false sense of self.

>

>

> We are never in the present.

>

> We can only look behind of our selves.....and it takes a tenth of a

> second for a physical brain to assimilate incoming stimuli.

>

> It is always a little behind the flow.

>

>

>

> toombaru

 

 

How long does it take, this moment, to construct the brain that

constructs the stimuli?

 

-- D.

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Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033 wrote:

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> Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@>

> wrote:

> >

> > Nisargadatta , epston@ wrote:

> > >

> > > In a message dated 4/21/2006 12:42:42 PM Pacific Daylight Time,

> > > lastrain@ writes:

> > >

> > > > " We' can only see that which is on 'our' past.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > toombaru

> > > >

> > > > L.E: " On our past? " Do you mean IN our past? And why are there

> > quotes

> > > > around the word 'our?' If you mean in our past, that's

> > ridiculous. There is

> > > > the present, where we can see exactly what is here in front or

> > behind us.

> > > > Oh! You mean 'our' does not include you who probably has no

> past,

> > being

> > > > always in the present. Is that why the quote?

> > >

> > >

> >

> > I did mean to write 'in'....but I kinda like 'on' better....:-)

> >

> > Our is in quotes to convey the false sense of self.

> >

> >

> > We are never in the present.

> >

> > We can only look behind

our selves.....and it takes a tenth of a

> > second for a physical brain to assimilate incoming stimuli.

> >

> > It is always a little behind the flow.

> >

> >

> >

> > toombaru

>

>

> How long does it take, this moment, to construct the brain that

> constructs the stimuli?

>

> -- D.

>

 

 

..

 

There is no such thing as 'this separate moment'.

 

The brain constructs nothing.

 

 

 

 

toombaru

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Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain

wrote:

>

> Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote:

> >

> > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@>

> > wrote:

> > >

> > > Nisargadatta , epston@ wrote:

> > > >

> > > > In a message dated 4/21/2006 12:42:42 PM Pacific Daylight

Time,

> > > > lastrain@ writes:

> > > >

> > > > > " We' can only see that which is on 'our' past.

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > toombaru

> > > > >

> > > > > L.E: " On our past? " Do you mean IN our past? And why are

there

> > > quotes

> > > > > around the word 'our?' If you mean in our past, that's

> > > ridiculous. There is

> > > > > the present, where we can see exactly what is here in front

or

> > > behind us.

> > > > > Oh! You mean 'our' does not include you who probably has

no

> > past,

> > > being

> > > > > always in the present. Is that why the quote?

> > > >

> > > >

> > >

> > > I did mean to write 'in'....but I kinda like 'on' better....:-)

> > >

> > > Our is in quotes to convey the false sense of self.

> > >

> > >

> > > We are never in the present.

> > >

> > > We can only look behind

> our selves.....and it takes a tenth of a

> > > second for a physical brain to assimilate incoming stimuli.

> > >

> > > It is always a little behind the flow.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > toombaru

> >

> >

> > How long does it take, this moment, to construct the brain that

> > constructs the stimuli?

> >

> > -- D.

> >

>

>

> .

>

> There is no such thing as 'this separate moment'.

>

> The brain constructs nothing.

>

>

>

>

> toombaru

 

There is no toombie to make any statement about it, one way or the

other.

 

-- D.

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Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain

wrote:

>

> Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote:

> >

> > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@>

> > wrote:

> > >

> > > Nisargadatta , epston@ wrote:

> > > >

> > > > In a message dated 4/21/2006 12:42:42 PM Pacific Daylight

Time,

> > > > lastrain@ writes:

> > > >

> > > > > " We' can only see that which is on 'our' past.

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > toombaru

> > > > >

> > > > > L.E: " On our past? " Do you mean IN our past? And why are

there

> > > quotes

> > > > > around the word 'our?' If you mean in our past, that's

> > > ridiculous. There is

> > > > > the present, where we can see exactly what is here in front

or

> > > behind us.

> > > > > Oh! You mean 'our' does not include you who probably has

no

> > past,

> > > being

> > > > > always in the present. Is that why the quote?

> > > >

> > > >

> > >

> > > I did mean to write 'in'....but I kinda like 'on' better....:-)

> > >

> > > Our is in quotes to convey the false sense of self.

> > >

> > >

> > > We are never in the present.

> > >

> > > We can only look behind

> our selves.....and it takes a tenth of a

> > > second for a physical brain to assimilate incoming stimuli.

> > >

> > > It is always a little behind the flow.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > toombaru

> >

> >

> > How long does it take, this moment, to construct the brain that

> > constructs the stimuli?

> >

> > -- D.

> >

>

>

> .

>

> There is no such thing as 'this separate moment'.

>

> The brain constructs nothing.

>

>

>

>

> toombar

 

There is no such thing as someone saying " there is no such thing. "

 

You have said nothing.

 

-- D.

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Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033 wrote:

>

> Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@>

> wrote:

> >

> > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@>

> > > wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Nisargadatta , epston@ wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > In a message dated 4/21/2006 12:42:42 PM Pacific Daylight

> Time,

> > > > > lastrain@ writes:

> > > > >

> > > > > > " We' can only see that which is on 'our' past.

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > toombaru

> > > > > >

> > > > > > L.E: " On our past? " Do you mean IN our past? And why are

> there

> > > > quotes

> > > > > > around the word 'our?' If you mean in our past, that's

> > > > ridiculous. There is

> > > > > > the present, where we can see exactly what is here in front

> or

> > > > behind us.

> > > > > > Oh! You mean 'our' does not include you who probably has

> no

> > > past,

> > > > being

> > > > > > always in the present. Is that why the quote?

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > > I did mean to write 'in'....but I kinda like 'on' better....:-)

> > > >

> > > > Our is in quotes to convey the false sense of self.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > We are never in the present.

> > > >

> > > > We can only look behind

> > our selves.....and it takes a tenth of a

> > > > second for a physical brain to assimilate incoming stimuli.

> > > >

> > > > It is always a little behind the flow.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > toombaru

> > >

> > >

> > > How long does it take, this moment, to construct the brain that

> > > constructs the stimuli?

> > >

> > > -- D.

> > >

> >

> >

> > .

> >

> > There is no such thing as 'this separate moment'.

> >

> > The brain constructs nothing.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > toombaru

>

> There is no toombie to make any statement about it, one way or the

> other.

>

> -- D.

>

 

 

 

 

Dan.........Dan...........Dan.

 

That is a given of which you are well aware.

 

 

There is a most mysterious speaking.....but no one is speaking.

 

 

 

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Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033 wrote:

>

> Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@>

> wrote:

> >

> > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@>

> > > wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Nisargadatta , epston@ wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > In a message dated 4/21/2006 12:42:42 PM Pacific Daylight

> Time,

> > > > > lastrain@ writes:

> > > > >

> > > > > > " We' can only see that which is on 'our' past.

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > toombaru

> > > > > >

> > > > > > L.E: " On our past? " Do you mean IN our past? And why are

> there

> > > > quotes

> > > > > > around the word 'our?' If you mean in our past, that's

> > > > ridiculous. There is

> > > > > > the present, where we can see exactly what is here in front

> or

> > > > behind us.

> > > > > > Oh! You mean 'our' does not include you who probably has

> no

> > > past,

> > > > being

> > > > > > always in the present. Is that why the quote?

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > > I did mean to write 'in'....but I kinda like 'on' better....:-)

> > > >

> > > > Our is in quotes to convey the false sense of self.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > We are never in the present.

> > > >

> > > > We can only look behind

> > our selves.....and it takes a tenth of a

> > > > second for a physical brain to assimilate incoming stimuli.

> > > >

> > > > It is always a little behind the flow.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > toombaru

> > >

> > >

> > > How long does it take, this moment, to construct the brain that

> > > constructs the stimuli?

> > >

> > > -- D.

> > >

> >

> >

> > .

> >

> > There is no such thing as 'this separate moment'.

> >

> > The brain constructs nothing.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > toombar

>

> There is no such thing as someone saying " there is no such thing. "

>

> You have said nothing.

>

> -- D.

>

 

 

 

I never have.

 

 

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Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain wrote:

>

> Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote:

> >

> > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@>

> > wrote:

> > >

> > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@>

> > > > wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Nisargadatta , epston@ wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > In a message dated 4/21/2006 12:42:42 PM Pacific Daylight

> > Time,

> > > > > > lastrain@ writes:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > " We' can only see that which is on 'our' past.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > toombaru

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > L.E: " On our past? " Do you mean IN our past? And why are

> > there

> > > > > quotes

> > > > > > > around the word 'our?' If you mean in our past, that's

> > > > > ridiculous. There is

> > > > > > > the present, where we can see exactly what is here in front

> > or

> > > > > behind us.

> > > > > > > Oh! You mean 'our' does not include you who probably has

> > no

> > > > past,

> > > > > being

> > > > > > > always in the present. Is that why the quote?

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > I did mean to write 'in'....but I kinda like 'on' better....:-)

> > > > >

> > > > > Our is in quotes to convey the false sense of self.

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > We are never in the present.

> > > > >

> > > > > We can only look behind

> > > our selves.....and it takes a tenth of a

> > > > > second for a physical brain to assimilate incoming stimuli.

> > > > >

> > > > > It is always a little behind the flow.

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > toombaru

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > How long does it take, this moment, to construct the brain that

> > > > constructs the stimuli?

> > > >

> > > > -- D.

> > > >

> > >

> > >

> > > .

> > >

> > > There is no such thing as 'this separate moment'.

> > >

> > > The brain constructs nothing.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > toombaru

> >

> > There is no toombie to make any statement about it, one way or the

> > other.

> >

> > -- D.

> >

>

>

>

>

> Dan.........Dan...........Dan.

>

> That is a given of which you are well aware.

>

>

> There is a most mysterious speaking.....but no one is speaking.

>

>

>

> toombaru

 

If you are trying to understand what is being said, you have to

construct a position from which to understand.

 

If you aren't worried about that - there is just " is " ...

 

(not the word or concept " is " )

 

No death, hence no birth.

 

The mirage of having been born is dispelled *here* ...

 

But the catch is this: dying to one's previously believed-to-be self,

and its universe, is what this *here* with no death is ...

 

And one goes right on with one's life, as is -- no contradiction

whatsoever ... thoughts and perceptions and me's don't interfere

whatsoever ... if the " me " is cleared *here* -- there isn't/aren't

any other me's somewhere else to clear ...

 

-- D.

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Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033 wrote:

>

> Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> wrote:

> >

> > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@>

> > > wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@>

wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@>

> > > > > wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Nisargadatta , epston@ wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > In a message dated 4/21/2006 12:42:42 PM Pacific Daylight

> > > Time,

> > > > > > > lastrain@ writes:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > " We' can only see that which is on 'our' past.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > toombaru

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > L.E: " On our past? " Do you mean IN our past? And why

are

> > > there

> > > > > > quotes

> > > > > > > > around the word 'our?' If you mean in our past, that's

> > > > > > ridiculous. There is

> > > > > > > > the present, where we can see exactly what is here in

front

> > > or

> > > > > > behind us.

> > > > > > > > Oh! You mean 'our' does not include you who probably has

> > > no

> > > > > past,

> > > > > > being

> > > > > > > > always in the present. Is that why the quote?

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I did mean to write 'in'....but I kinda like 'on'

better....:-)

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Our is in quotes to convey the false sense of self.

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > We are never in the present.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > We can only look behind

> > > > our selves.....and it takes a tenth of a

> > > > > > second for a physical brain to assimilate incoming stimuli.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > It is always a little behind the flow.

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > toombaru

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > How long does it take, this moment, to construct the brain that

> > > > > constructs the stimuli?

> > > > >

> > > > > -- D.

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > .

> > > >

> > > > There is no such thing as 'this separate moment'.

> > > >

> > > > The brain constructs nothing.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > toombaru

> > >

> > > There is no toombie to make any statement about it, one way or the

> > > other.

> > >

> > > -- D.

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Dan.........Dan...........Dan.

> >

> > That is a given of which you are well aware.

> >

> >

> > There is a most mysterious speaking.....but no one is speaking.

> >

> >

> >

> > toombaru

>

> If you are trying to understand what is being said, you have to

> construct a position from which to understand.

>

> If you aren't worried about that - there is just " is " ...

>

> (not the word or concept " is " )

>

> No death, hence no birth.

>

> The mirage of having been born is dispelled *here* ...

>

> But the catch is this: dying to one's previously believed-to-be self,

> and its universe, is what this *here* with no death is ...

>

> And one goes right on with one's life, as is -- no contradiction

> whatsoever ... thoughts and perceptions and me's don't interfere

> whatsoever ... if the " me " is cleared *here* -- there isn't/aren't

> any other me's somewhere else to clear ...

>

> -- D.

>

....

 

 

 

 

 

 

..........and One drifts down......immersed in the clarity of unknowing.

 

 

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^:-)^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

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Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 "

<lastrain wrote:

>

> Nisargadatta , " dan330033 "

<dan330033@> wrote:

> >

> > Nisargadatta ,

" toombaru2006 " <lastrain@>

> > wrote:

> > >

> > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 "

<dan330033@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Nisargadatta ,

" toombaru2006 " <lastrain@>

> > > > wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Nisargadatta , epston@

wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > In a message dated 4/21/2006 12:42:42 PM

Pacific Daylight

> > Time,

> > > > > > lastrain@ writes:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > " We' can only see that which is on 'our'

past.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > toombaru

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > L.E: " On our past? " Do you mean IN our

past? And why are

> > there

> > > > > quotes

> > > > > > > around the word 'our?' If you mean in

our past, that's

> > > > > ridiculous. There is

> > > > > > > the present, where we can see exactly

what is here in front

> > or

> > > > > behind us.

> > > > > > > Oh! You mean 'our' does not include you

who probably has

> > no

> > > > past,

> > > > > being

> > > > > > > always in the present. Is that why the

quote?

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > I did mean to write 'in'....but I kinda like

'on' better....:-)

> > > > >

> > > > > Our is in quotes to convey the false sense

of self.

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > We are never in the present.

> > > > >

> > > > > We can only look behind

> > > our selves.....and it takes a tenth of a

> > > > > second for a physical brain to assimilate

incoming stimuli.

> > > > >

> > > > > It is always a little behind the flow.

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > toombaru

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > How long does it take, this moment, to

construct the brain that

> > > > constructs the stimuli?

> > > >

> > > > -- D.

> > > >

> > >

> > >

> > > .

> > >

> > > There is no such thing as 'this separate

moment'.

> > >

> > > The brain constructs nothing.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > toombaru

> >

> > There is no toombie to make any statement about

it, one way or the

> > other.

> >

> > -- D.

> >

>

>

>

>

> Dan.........Dan...........Dan.

>

> That is a given of which you are well aware.

>

>

> There is a most mysterious speaking.....but no one

is speaking.

>

>

>

> toombaru

 

If you are trying to understand what is being said,

you have to

construct a position from which to understand.

 

If you aren't worried about that - there is just " is "

....

 

(not the word or concept " is " )

 

No death, hence no birth.

 

The mirage of having been born is dispelled *here* ...

 

But the catch is this: dying to one's previously

believed-to-be self,

and its universe, is what this *here* with no death is

....

 

And one goes right on with one's life, as is -- no

contradiction

whatsoever ... thoughts and perceptions and me's don't

interfere

whatsoever ... if the " me " is cleared *here* -- there

isn't/aren't

any other me's somewhere else to clear ...

 

-- D.

 

 

AAAAHHH, but the extreme nimbleness of that me...

a most exquisite imitator indeed,

A teacher bathed in the light of its own perfection..

The knower of the strings..

 

Only a pure heart can defeat <me>..

 

But what is a pure heart?

 

 

Patricia

 

 

 

 

 

 

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> AAAAHHH, but the extreme nimbleness of that me...

> a most exquisite imitator indeed,

> A teacher bathed in the light of its own perfection..

> The knower of the strings..

>

> Only a pure heart can defeat <me>..

>

> But what is a pure heart?

>

>

> Patricia

>

>

>

 

 

The One beating in your chest.

 

 

 

 

toombaru

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--- toombaru2006 <lastrain a écrit :

 

 

 

 

>

> AAAAHHH, but the extreme nimbleness of that me...

> a most exquisite imitator indeed,

> A teacher bathed in the light of its own

perfection..

> The knower of the strings..

>

> Only a pure heart can defeat <me>..

>

> But what is a pure heart?

>

>

> Patricia

>

>

>

 

 

The One beating in your chest.

 

 

 

 

toombaru

 

....and you bring back questions to their source..

 

Patricia

 

 

 

 

 

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