Guest guest Posted April 22, 2006 Report Share Posted April 22, 2006 In a message dated 4/21/2006 12:15:23 PM Pacific Daylight Time, illusyn writes: > > And perhaps, just perhaps, we make decisions only in > looking backwards as well... > > Bill > L.E: Looking backward from the present moment is just using memory which can be useful for making decisions. If you are not in the present, looking backward is the same as imagining the past is the present which will stop a person from being in the present. Nice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 22, 2006 Report Share Posted April 22, 2006 Nisargadatta , epston wrote: > > In a message dated 4/21/2006 12:15:23 PM Pacific Daylight Time, > illusyn writes: > > > > > And perhaps, just perhaps, we make decisions only in > > looking backwards as well... > > > > Bill > > > L.E: Looking backward from the present moment is just using memory which can > be useful for making decisions. If you are not in the present, looking > backward is the same as imagining the past is the present which will stop a person > from being in the present. Nice. > Hello, in the present there is no person what you are is always present blessing > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 22, 2006 Report Share Posted April 22, 2006 Yes, Big, Even looking backwards happens in the present. The interesting thing maybe to add is that data processed in the brain need about 200-400 msecs to get conscious. And therefore we never really are in the present. What we see as " present " is just the subjectivity of consciousness " and let me remind that Nit said consciousness is just a fever. Which means the present is just a fever. Werner Nisargadatta , " bigwaaba " <bigwaaba wrote: > > Nisargadatta , epston@ wrote: > > > > In a message dated 4/21/2006 12:15:23 PM Pacific Daylight Time, > > illusyn@ writes: > > > > > > > > And perhaps, just perhaps, we make decisions only in > > > looking backwards as well... > > > > > > Bill > > > > > L.E: Looking backward from the present moment is just using memory > which can > > be useful for making decisions. If you are not in the present, > looking > > backward is the same as imagining the past is the present which > will stop a person > > from being in the present. Nice. > > > > Hello, > > in the present there is no person > what you are is always present > > blessing > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 22, 2006 Report Share Posted April 22, 2006 Nisargadatta , " Werner Woehr " <wwoehr wrote: > > Yes, Big, > > Even looking backwards happens in the present. > > The interesting thing maybe to add is that data processed in the > brain need about 200-400 msecs to get conscious. And therefore we > never really are in the present. > > What we see as " present " is just the subjectivity of consciousness " > and let me remind that Nit said consciousness is just a fever. Which > means the present is just a fever. > > Werner So cool Werner! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 22, 2006 Report Share Posted April 22, 2006 Nisargadatta , " bigwaaba " <bigwaaba wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " Werner Woehr " <wwoehr@> > wrote: > > > > Yes, Big, > > > > Even looking backwards happens in the present. > > > > The interesting thing maybe to add is that data processed in the > > brain need about 200-400 msecs to get conscious. And therefore we > > never really are in the present. > > > > What we see as " present " is just the subjectivity of consciousness " > > and let me remind that Nit said consciousness is just a fever. > Which > > means the present is just a fever. > > > > Werner > > > So cool Werner! > What if..........the 'self' emerges within.....and experiences its illusory totality .......within that tenth of a second gap? toombaru Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 22, 2006 Report Share Posted April 22, 2006 Hmm Toomb, There is no illusionary self which experiences something. There is only concíousness where are appearing thoughts using the body/face as a reference point for the noun " I " . And then there are also appearing thoughts calling this funny behaviour of thought as an " illusionary self " . Werner Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " bigwaaba " <bigwaaba@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " Werner Woehr " <wwoehr@> > > wrote: > > > > > > Yes, Big, > > > > > > Even looking backwards happens in the present. > > > > > > The interesting thing maybe to add is that data processed in the > > > brain need about 200-400 msecs to get conscious. And therefore we > > > never really are in the present. > > > > > > What we see as " present " is just the subjectivity of consciousness " > > > and let me remind that Nit said consciousness is just a fever. > > Which > > > means the present is just a fever. > > > > > > Werner > > > > > > So cool Werner! > > > > > > What if..........the 'self' emerges within.....and experiences its > illusory totality .......within that tenth of a second gap? > > > > toombaru > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 22, 2006 Report Share Posted April 22, 2006 Nisargadatta , " Werner Woehr " <wwoehr wrote: > > Hmm Toomb, > > There is no illusionary self which experiences something. > > There is only concíousness where are appearing thoughts using the > body/face as a reference point for the noun " I " . And then there are > also appearing thoughts calling this funny behaviour of thought as > an " illusionary self " . > > Werner > This is the point where laughter breaks through the clouds.....and the Pristine Quiescence flows back into itself. toombaru Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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