Guest guest Posted April 23, 2006 Report Share Posted April 23, 2006 On Apr 22, 2006, at 8:44 PM, Nisargadatta wrote: > Pete: Great exchange, guys! IMO, talking about the present > is trying to locate change. Perception changes, and in doing > so, it leaves a residue in memory that we call the past. Perception, > change, memory and anticipation are inseparable. When conscious, > there is always perception. The question is, what is there, when > perception is not? Perception is a fever, and there comes a point > when no fever is perceived as health. > > > > Phil: Such a condition could never be experienced, could it? P: Experience is not a good word for it because it implies memory, but the brain and body have other ways to know which don't involve consciousness. You want to lift your hand, and it's done, without the how ever becoming an experience. I eat, and food gets digested without awareness. Consciousness is a tiny sliver of surface, the brain goes deep past neurons to molecules to atoms and is connected to the cosmos in ways we don't suspect. So experience is a bad word for it, intuition might be better, but really no word is the right word. That we know, doesn't seem a big priority in the scheme of things. Does it? > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 23, 2006 Report Share Posted April 23, 2006 In a message dated 4/23/2006 7:36:59 AM Pacific Daylight Time, pedsie5 writes: > P: Experience is not a good word for it because it implies > memory, but the brain and body have other ways to > know which don't involve consciousness. You want > to lift your hand, and it's done, without the how ever > becoming an experience. I eat, and food gets digested > without awareness. Consciousness is a tiny sliver of > surface, the brain goes deep past neurons to molecules > to atoms and is connected to the cosmos in ways we > don't suspect. So experience is a bad word for it, > intuition might be better, but really no word is the > right word. That we know, doesn't seem a big > priority in the scheme of things. Does it? > > > LE: If you consider everything, what we can knowing hardly exists. We know > something is hot or cold, bitter or sweet. We know a lot of " how to's' like > raising an arm, driving a car, discussing an issue, but in the larger picture > what do we know? Hardly anything, mostly nothing. Living a normal life and > going with the flow is actually quite a special accomplishment. Larry Epston > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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