Guest guest Posted April 24, 2006 Report Share Posted April 24, 2006 In contemporary psychology and epistemology perception is the apprehension of any sense object, which includes physical objects, thoughts, emotions, and sensations such as cold, or heavy. We can say, we are always perceiving something or other. We can also say, all dissatisfaction, all suffering comes from how we digest and rate perception. Without perception we are not aware of either being, or being not. Without perception there is no problem whatsoever, so it's ironic, we fear not perceiving, unconsciousness, and not being. Not perceiving, not being conscious is perfection. So, why is it that death is a problem? Pete Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 24, 2006 Report Share Posted April 24, 2006 In a message dated 4/24/2006 11:12:15 AM Pacific Daylight Time, Nisargadatta writes: Mon, 24 Apr 2006 08:48:28 -0700 Pete S <pedsie5 Perception In contemporary psychology and epistemology perception is the apprehension of any sense object, which includes physical objects, thoughts, emotions, and sensations such as cold, or heavy. We can say, we are always perceiving something or other. We can also say, all dissatisfaction, all suffering comes from how we digest and rate perception. Without perception we are not aware of either being, or being not. Without perception there is no problem whatsoever, so it's ironic, we fear not perceiving, unconsciousness, and not being. Not perceiving, not being conscious is perfection. So, why is it that death is a problem? Pete Seems like there's the assumption that nonexistence is preferred over suffering, which is rarely the case. What is sought is existence without suffering, even at the cost of individuality. Phil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 6, 2009 Report Share Posted October 6, 2009 ---Swami Sadasivananda <sadasivanandaPerception ..something to think about... Washington, DC Metro Station on a cold January morning in 2007. The man with a violin played six Bach pieces for about 45 minutes. During that time approximately two thousand people went through the station, most of them on their way to work. After 3 minutes a middle aged man noticed there was a musician playing. He slowed his pace and stopped for a few seconds and then hurried to meet his schedule. 4 minutes later: The violinist received his first dollar: a woman threw the money in the hat and, without stopping, continued to walk. 6 minutes: A young man leaned against the wall to listen to him, then looked at his watch and started to walk again. 10 minutes: A 3-year old boy stopped but his mother tugged him along hurriedly. The kid stopped to look at the violinist again, but the mother pushed hard and the child continued to walk, turning his head all the time. This action was repeated by several other children.. Every parent, without exception, forced their children to move on quickly. 45 minutes:The musician played continuously. Only 6 people stopped and listened for a short while. About 20 gave money but continued to walk at their normal pace. The man collected a total of $32. 1 hour: He finished playing and silence took over. No one noticed. No one applauded, nor was there any recognition. No one knew this, but the violinist was Joshua Bell, one of the greatest musicians in the world. He played one of the most intricate pieces ever written, with a violin worth $3.5 million dollars. Two days before, Joshua Bell sold out a theater in Boston where the seats averaged $100. This is a true story.. Joshua Bell playing incognito in the metro station was organized by the Washington Post as part of a social experiment about perception, taste and people's priorities. The questions raised: in a commonplace environment at an inappropriate hour, do we perceive beauty? Do we stop to appreciate it? Do we recognize talent in an unexpected context? One possible conclusion reached from this experiment could be this: If we do not have a moment to stop and listen to one of the best musicians in the world, playing some of the finest music ever written, with one of the most beautiful instruments ever made..... How many other things are we missing?-- Teachings of Bhagavan Sri Ramana Maharshi web site: http://www.ramanateaching.orgAsk your question in relation to Bhagavan's teachings, meditation and spirituality at: http://www.ramanateaching.org/faq To contact Swami Sadasivananda:http://www.ramanateaching.org/contact.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 6, 2009 Report Share Posted October 6, 2009 Dear Alan , Good Morning and thanks . Am sure you are enjoying unbounded peace in the Ashram.. Yes , indeed it is a pity that many of us are so busy involved in the business of making a living ; we hardly ever get to notice or experience the abundance of beauty around whether in music , nature or His Myriad Mayic Creation . Always some prompting or some labels are required to make us pause ; even for a little while ; and wonder ! Thank you once again for this gentle , subtle and apposite reminder. In Bhagavan's Grace, All Love ramesh --- On Tue, 10/6/09, Alan Jacobs <alanadamsjacobs wrote: Alan Jacobs <alanadamsjacobs Re: Perception Date: Tuesday, October 6, 2009, 7:42 AM --- Swami Sadasivananda <sadasivananda Perception .something to think about... Washington, DC Metro Station on a cold January morning in 2007. The man with a violin played six Bach pieces for about 45 minutes. During that time approximately two thousand people went through the station, most of them on their way to work. After 3 minutes a middle aged man noticed there was a musician playing. He slowed his pace and stopped for a few seconds and then hurried to meet his schedule.4 minutes later: The violinist received his first dollar: a woman threw the money in the hat and, without stopping, continued to walk.6 minutes: A young man leaned against the wall to listen to him, then looked at his watch and started to walk again. 10 minutes: A 3-year old boy stopped but his mother tugged him along hurriedly. The kid stopped to look at the violinist again, but the mother pushed hard and the child continued to walk, turning his head all the time. This action was repeated by several other children.. Every parent, without exception, forced their children to move on quickly. 45 minutes:The musician played continuously. Only 6 people stopped and listened for a short while. About 20 gave money but continued to walk at their normal pace. The man collected a total of $32. 1 hour: He finished playing and silence took over. No one noticed. No one applauded, nor was there any recognition. No one knew this, but the violinist was Joshua Bell, one of the greatest musicians in the world. He played one of the most intricate pieces ever written, with a violin worth $3.5 million dollars. Two days before, Joshua Bell sold out a theater in Boston where the seats averaged $100. This is a true story.. Joshua Bell playing incognito in the metro station was organized by the Washington Post as part of a social experiment about perception, taste and people's priorities. The questions raised: in a commonplace environment at an inappropriate hour, do we perceive beauty? Do we stop to appreciate it? Do we recognize talent in an unexpected context? One possible conclusion reached from this experiment could be this: If we do not have a moment to stop and listen to one of the best musicians in the world, playing some of the finest music ever written, with one of the most beautiful instruments ever made..... How many other things are we missing?-- Teachings of Bhagavan Sri Ramana Maharshi web site: http://www.ramanateaching.orgAsk your question in relation to Bhagavan's teachings, meditation and spirituality at: http://www.ramanateaching.org/faqTo contact Swami Sadasivananda:http://www.ramanateaching.org/contact.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 6, 2009 Report Share Posted October 6, 2009 Dear Ramesh,Yes. Very good to hear from you. All is perfect here. I expect we shall meet again.Love and love alone,Alan--- On Tue, 6/10/09, ramesh chivukula <ramesh_chiv wrote:ramesh chivukula <ramesh_chivRe: Re: PerceptionDate: Tuesday, 6 October, 2009, 5:39 AM Dear Alan , Good Morning and thanks . Am sure you are enjoying unbounded peace in the Ashram.. Yes , indeed it is a pity that many of us are so busy involved in the business of making a living ; we hardly ever get to notice or experience the abundance of beauty around whether in music , nature or His Myriad Mayic Creation . Always some prompting or some labels are required to make us pause ; even for a little while ; and wonder ! Thank you once again for this gentle , subtle and apposite reminder. In Bhagavan's Grace, All Love ramesh --- On Tue, 10/6/09, Alan Jacobs <alanadamsjacobs@ .co. uk> wrote: Alan Jacobs <alanadamsjacobs@ .co. uk> Re: PerceptionTuesday, October 6, 2009, 7:42 AM --- Swami Sadasivananda <sadasivananda@ gmail.com> Perception .something to think about... Washington, DC Metro Station on a cold January morning in 2007. The man with a violin played six Bach pieces for about 45 minutes. During that time approximately two thousand people went through the station, most of them on their way to work. After 3 minutes a middle aged man noticed there was a musician playing. He slowed his pace and stopped for a few seconds and then hurried to meet his schedule.4 minutes later: The violinist received his first dollar: a woman threw the money in the hat and, without stopping, continued to walk.6 minutes: A young man leaned against the wall to listen to him, then looked at his watch and started to walk again. 10 minutes: A 3-year old boy stopped but his mother tugged him along hurriedly. The kid stopped to look at the violinist again, but the mother pushed hard and the child continued to walk, turning his head all the time. This action was repeated by several other children.. Every parent, without exception, forced their children to move on quickly. 45 minutes:The musician played continuously. Only 6 people stopped and listened for a short while. About 20 gave money but continued to walk at their normal pace. The man collected a total of $32. 1 hour: He finished playing and silence took over. No one noticed. No one applauded, nor was there any recognition. No one knew this, but the violinist was Joshua Bell, one of the greatest musicians in the world. He played one of the most intricate pieces ever written, with a violin worth $3.5 million dollars. Two days before, Joshua Bell sold out a theater in Boston where the seats averaged $100. This is a true story.. Joshua Bell playing incognito in the metro station was organized by the Washington Post as part of a social experiment about perception, taste and people's priorities. The questions raised: in a commonplace environment at an inappropriate hour, do we perceive beauty? Do we stop to appreciate it? Do we recognize talent in an unexpected context? One possible conclusion reached from this experiment could be this: If we do not have a moment to stop and listen to one of the best musicians in the world, playing some of the finest music ever written, with one of the most beautiful instruments ever made..... How many other things are we missing?-- Teachings of Bhagavan Sri Ramana Maharshi web site: http://www.ramanate aching.orgAsk your question in relation to Bhagavan's teachings, meditation and spirituality at: http://www.ramanate aching.org/ faqTo contact Swami Sadasivananda:http://www.ramanate aching.org/ contact.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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