Guest guest Posted April 27, 2006 Report Share Posted April 27, 2006 Nisargadatta , " Arvind " <adithya_comming wrote: > > I noticed that I am able to pay FULL > Attention to the Present Moment only > when I am internally at Peace! This is bad news, because it means that you cannot pay full attention when you´re not at peace, and it is exactly then when it´s needed very badly. Len > ...I noticed that when I pay Full > Attention to the Present Moment, I > become Peaceful inside! > > > I noticed that when I pay Full > Attention to the Present Moment, any > prior expectation that I might have from > it... automatically drops! > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 27, 2006 Report Share Posted April 27, 2006 --- Werner Woehr <wwoehr a écrit : Nisargadatta , " lissbon2002 " <lissbon2002 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " billrishel " <illusyn@> > wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " lissbon2002 " <lissbon2002@> > > wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Arvind " <adithya_comming@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > [...] > > > > > > > > > - Once you reach the state of 'no > > > > > thought', you see the *ground* on which > > > > > thoughts *grow*! This is the SPACE > > > > > where you have power to truly see, > > > > > observe, select and cultivate thoughts! > > > > > > > > > > This SPACE is also known as Pure > > > > > Awareness, Consciousness... it is also > > > > > known as Peace! Until we reach that > > > > > SPACE... our effort is best directed > > > > > only to reach this space rather than > > > > > trying to stop thoughts! Surrender is a > > > > > great way to reach that Space! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - As long as we remain in *touch* with > > > > this Space, we have Power! [inner Peace > > > > is our Power!]! Once we lose touch with > > > > this Space, we are powerless again and > > > > we tend to become increasingly more > > > > submerged [in thoughts] and > > > > increasingly more powerless! Surrender > > > > ['no effort'] is again the way that can > > > > get us *in touch* with Inner Peace! > > > > > > > > - When we remain *rooted* in Peace, we > > > > remain __At Home__, we remain in the > > > > position of our Power and the things, > > > > events lose their heaviness! They lose > > > > their heaviness because we realize that > > > > we *already* have that which matters > > > > Most... we have Peace! > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes, chaining yourself down to the root of Peace with a heavy > iron > > > chain seems to be the best way to ensure the ownership of Peace. > > > No insurance needed. Think of the money you save :-) > > > > > > Len > > > > > > > whereas, on the other hand, if no chain at all... > > > > what would you call that? > > > > Bill > > > Freedom. > > Len > And who is enjoying that freedom ? Werner Freedoom means nobody, no enjoyer. No doom. No Werner. Patricia ** If you do not wish to receive individual emails, to change your subscription, sign in with your ID and go to Edit My Groups: /mygroups?edit=1 Under the Message Delivery option, choose " No Email " for the Nisargadatta group and click on Save Changes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 27, 2006 Report Share Posted April 27, 2006 --- billrishel <illusyn a écrit : Nisargadatta , " Werner Woehr " <wwoehr wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " lissbon2002 " <lissbon2002@> > wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " billrishel " <illusyn@> > > wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " lissbon2002 " <lissbon2002@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Arvind " > <adithya_comming@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > [...] > > > > > > > > > > > - Once you reach the state of 'no > > > > > > thought', you see the *ground* on which > > > > > > thoughts *grow*! This is the SPACE > > > > > > where you have power to truly see, > > > > > > observe, select and cultivate thoughts! > > > > > > > > > > > > This SPACE is also known as Pure > > > > > > Awareness, Consciousness... it is also > > > > > > known as Peace! Until we reach that > > > > > > SPACE... our effort is best directed > > > > > > only to reach this space rather than > > > > > > trying to stop thoughts! Surrender is a > > > > > > great way to reach that Space! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - As long as we remain in *touch* with > > > > > this Space, we have Power! [inner Peace > > > > > is our Power!]! Once we lose touch with > > > > > this Space, we are powerless again and > > > > > we tend to become increasingly more > > > > > submerged [in thoughts] and > > > > > increasingly more powerless! Surrender > > > > > ['no effort'] is again the way that can > > > > > get us *in touch* with Inner Peace! > > > > > > > > > > - When we remain *rooted* in Peace, we > > > > > remain __At Home__, we remain in the > > > > > position of our Power and the things, > > > > > events lose their heaviness! They lose > > > > > their heaviness because we realize that > > > > > we *already* have that which matters > > > > > Most... we have Peace! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes, chaining yourself down to the root of Peace with a heavy > > iron > > > > chain seems to be the best way to ensure the ownership of > Peace. > > > > No insurance needed. Think of the money you save :-) > > > > > > > > Len > > > > > > > > > > whereas, on the other hand, if no chain at all... > > > > > > what would you call that? > > > > > > Bill > > > > > > Freedom. > > > > Len > > > > And who is enjoying that freedom ? > > Werner > Is true freedom really *enjoyed*? It just is. One could say that the Now is limitless. And one could ask, " Who enjoys that limitlessness? " No one. It is not enjoyed in the sense that someone might enjoy an ice cream cone. It is the very nature of Freedom that there is no one to enjoy it. And that is the very beauty of it. One/someone might " have " freedom, there is no one that has Freedom. And here the term Freedom = Now = What Is. True Freedom *is* in-joy-ment... True Freedom *is* Joy. But it is so light, so spacious, so vast. No one could ever " have " that. How could you want to have it anyway. Once touched, that beauty struck you in the heart, and you are lost forever to the desire of ownership. You are a fool in love at the most. Patricia Bill How could you want to have it anyway, that beauty struck you in the heart, and you are lost forever to the desire of ownership. You are a fool in love at the most. Patricia ** If you do not wish to receive individual emails, to change your subscription, sign in with your ID and go to Edit My Groups: /mygroups?edit=1 Under the Message Delivery option, choose " No Email " for the Nisargadatta group and click on Save Changes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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