Guest guest Posted April 26, 2006 Report Share Posted April 26, 2006 Nisargadatta , ADHHUB wrote: > > > In a message dated 4/25/2006 2:54:06 PM Pacific Daylight Time, > Nisargadatta writes: > > Tue, 25 Apr 2006 21:05:17 -0000 > " billrishel " <illusyn > Re: The Present > > Nisargadatta , ADHHUB@ wrote: > > > > > > In a message dated 4/22/2006 7:13:12 AM Pacific Daylight Time, > > Nisargadatta writes: > > > > Sat, 22 Apr 2006 11:30:01 -0000 > > " billrishel " <illusyn@> > > Re: The Present & Looking Backwards.. > > > > Nisargadatta , " Werner Woehr " <wwoehr@> > > wrote: > > > > > > Yes, Big, > > > > > > Even looking backwards happens in the present. > > > > > > The interesting thing maybe to add is that data processed in the > > > brain need about 200-400 msecs to get conscious. And therefore we > > > never really are in the present. > > > > > > What we see as " present " is just the subjectivity of consciousness " > > > and let me remind that Nit said consciousness is just a fever. > > Which > > > means the present is just a fever. > > > > > > Werner > > > > Let's take a look at that. > > " We never really are in the present. " > > What does that actually mean, thinking it through? > > > > Does it mean: " Being totally present, " is a joke? > > > > Bill > > > > > > > > Being totally present isn't possible, but not because of perceptual > delays. > > Or maybe more accurately, if we ever were totally present, we > wouldn't know > > it, and so couldn't talk about the 'experience'. There would be no > experience > > of the 'event'. > > > > the Now is not an experience > > > Bill > > > > How could you know that? It couldn't be your experience that this is so. > > Phil there is a difference between experiencing and *an* experience. " an experience " entails ownership... experiencing does not necessarily entail a sequence of owned experiences... the Now is experiencing which is not broken up into little parcels of particular experiences... when there are those little parcels, that is " residue " ... the Now leaves no residue... nothing to feed upon itself so the Now remains open for whatever is *now*... could say the Now is " unconditional " as it does not place conditions on what is... Bill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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