Guest guest Posted April 28, 2006 Report Share Posted April 28, 2006 If my amatuer understanding is correct, the word " surrender " , when broken down, is: " su " means " self " , and " render " means to " turn over " or " yield " . Therefore, " surrender " means to willingly (as opposed to " willfully/intentionally for a reason) relinquish or turn over the self, (i.e., let go). Michael Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 28, 2006 Report Share Posted April 28, 2006 Dear amateur, And what for do you want to surrender ? Is you wife arround ? Werner Nisargadatta , " Adamson " <adamson wrote: > > > > > If my amatuer understanding is correct, the word " surrender " , when > broken down, is: " su " means " self " , and " render " means to " turn over " > or " yield " . Therefore, " surrender " means to willingly (as opposed to > " willfully/intentionally for a reason) relinquish or turn over the self, > (i.e., let go). > > Michael > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 28, 2006 Report Share Posted April 28, 2006 Nisargadatta , " Adamson " <adamson wrote: > > > > > If my amatuer understanding is correct, the word " surrender " , when > broken down, is: " su " means " self " , and " render " means to " turn over " > or " yield " . Therefore, " surrender " means to willingly (as opposed to > " willfully/intentionally for a reason) relinquish or turn over the self, > (i.e., let go). > > Michael > There are people who look within other words to determine the true meaning of the words themselves. Can you see the problem here? toombaru Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 28, 2006 Report Share Posted April 28, 2006 > > If my amatuer understanding is correct, the word " surrender " , when > broken down, is: " su " means " self " , and " render " means to " turn over " > or " yield " . Therefore, " surrender " means to willingly (as opposed to > " willfully/intentionally for a reason) relinquish or turn over the self, > (i.e., let go). > > Michael > according to the online etymological dictionary http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?search=surrender & searchmode=none from sur- " over " + rendre " give back " The " give back " is a nice fit to what Phil was saying... as it can mean to return back to its natural place. When there is no longer resistance then it returns back to its natural place. Which is oneness (i.e. non-distinction). Bill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 28, 2006 Report Share Posted April 28, 2006 Nisargadatta , " billrishel " <illusyn wrote: > > > > > > If my amatuer understanding is correct, the word " surrender " , when > > broken down, is: " su " means " self " , and " render " means to " turn over " > > or " yield " . Therefore, " surrender " means to willingly (as opposed to > > " willfully/intentionally for a reason) relinquish or turn over the > self, > > (i.e., let go). > > > > Michael > > > > according to the online etymological dictionary > http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?search=surrender & searchmode=none > > from sur- " over " + rendre " give back " > > The " give back " is a nice fit to what Phil was saying... > as it can mean to return back to its natural place. > > When there is no longer resistance then it returns back > to its natural place. Which is oneness (i.e. non-distinction). > > Bill > Yeah.....Kinda like returning to a place it never left.......assuming.............of course..... there was an 'it' and 'a place'. toombaru Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 29, 2006 Report Share Posted April 29, 2006 < Message: 8 < Fri, 28 Apr 2006 15:45:35 -0000 < " Werner Woehr " <wwoehr < Re: Surrender - a view of < Dear amateur, < And what for do you want to surrender ? Is you wife arround ? < Werner Perhaps such things as " unlove, resentment, anger, condescenscion, hatred, prejudice, indifference, smugness, malicious intent, etc. " Not sure what you mean by " Is you® wife around? " Besides, I'm not married! Michael Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 29, 2006 Report Share Posted April 29, 2006 Nisargadatta , " Adamson " <adamson wrote: > > > < Message: 8 > < Fri, 28 Apr 2006 15:45:35 -0000 > < " Werner Woehr " <wwoehr > < Re: Surrender - a view of > > < Dear amateur, > > < And what for do you want to surrender ? Is you wife arround ? > > < Werner > > Perhaps such things as " unlove, resentment, anger, condescenscion, > hatred, prejudice, indifference, smugness, malicious intent, etc. " Only annoying things you want to get rid off? ;-) What about pleasure and elf-estime? Len > Not > sure what you mean by " Is you® wife around? " Besides, I'm not > married! > > Michael > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 29, 2006 Report Share Posted April 29, 2006 Nisargadatta , " lissbon2002 " <lissbon2002 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " Adamson " <adamson@> wrote: > > > > > > < Message: 8 > > < Fri, 28 Apr 2006 15:45:35 -0000 > > < " Werner Woehr " <wwoehr@> > > < Re: Surrender - a view of > > > > < Dear amateur, > > > > < And what for do you want to surrender ? Is you wife arround ? > > > > < Werner > > > > Perhaps such things as " unlove, resentment, anger, condescenscion, > > hatred, prejudice, indifference, smugness, malicious intent, > etc. " > > > Only annoying things you want to get rid off? ;-) > What about pleasure and elf-estime? > > Len Interesting typo: elf-esteem :-) Len Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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