A response to Bill R's Post about humongous blank - emptiness gliding, etc.

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< Notice the allowing of whatever arises to be fully

< experienced. Some think that nondual realization is about

< becoming a humongous blank... nothing affecting because

< *no attachment*... a vast silent emptiness gliding

< through timeless non-being...

 

< ahhh!......

 

< But I see it differently altogether. I suppose at one

< time I did see things in terms of such a " gliding

< emptiness " . I attribute that to my Buddhist origins.

< But that is not my viewpoint now at all.

 

< In my view the " emptiness " , the freedom from attachments,

< is precisely what enables the full allowing of what

< arises to manifest fully and completely. The impetus

< to fully *be* in an authentic and complete way is

< spontaneous, comes as from within (or so it may seem),

< responding in the moment to whatever is " up " dynamically

< and full of life.

 

The way I currently see it is to be unreservedly present and open as

possible so as to allow as much sensitivity to develop to everything as

possible. It is not a matter of becoming " immune " , " detached " , and

" unbothered " . If anything it is to become so vulnerable that one is

affected by everything, every nuance, nook, and cranny of life. Not just

the " big " things but all things without exception. Every sensation,

thought, image, idea, vibration, energy, urge, pulsation, etc. It is to

allow oneself to be *bothered* to smithereens but in such a way that one

isn't " bothered " by being " bothered " . So open and vulnerable that

there's *no-thing* there to hold anything out or at bay so that the

so-called *container* and *contents* merge and reveal *themselves* as

the unicity they always already ever presently and and have been except

in one's imagination. As T.S. Eliot said (which may not be a verbatim

quote), " We shall not cease from exploration. And the end of all of

exploring will be to return to where we started and know it again as if

for the first time. " Thus the never-ending and never-starting journey

of infinite and zero distance. Go figure!

 

Michael

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Nisargadatta , " Adamson " <adamson wrote:

>

>

> < Notice the allowing of whatever arises to be fully

> < experienced. Some think that nondual realization is about

> < becoming a humongous blank... nothing affecting because

> < *no attachment*... a vast silent emptiness gliding

> < through timeless non-being...

>

> < ahhh!......

>

> < But I see it differently altogether. I suppose at one

> < time I did see things in terms of such a " gliding

> < emptiness " . I attribute that to my Buddhist origins.

> < But that is not my viewpoint now at all.

>

> < In my view the " emptiness " , the freedom from attachments,

> < is precisely what enables the full allowing of what

> < arises to manifest fully and completely. The impetus

> < to fully *be* in an authentic and complete way is

> < spontaneous, comes as from within (or so it may seem),

> < responding in the moment to whatever is " up " dynamically

> < and full of life.

>

> The way I currently see it is to be unreservedly present and open

as

> possible so as to allow as much sensitivity to develop to

everything as

> possible. It is not a matter of becoming " immune " , " detached " , and

> " unbothered " . If anything it is to become so vulnerable that one

is

> affected by everything, every nuance, nook, and cranny of life.

Not just

> the " big " things but all things without exception. Every

sensation,

> thought, image, idea, vibration, energy, urge, pulsation, etc. It

is to

> allow oneself to be *bothered* to smithereens but in such a way

that one

> isn't " bothered " by being " bothered " . So open and vulnerable that

> there's *no-thing* there to hold anything out or at bay so that

the

> so-called *container* and *contents* merge and reveal *themselves*

as

> the unicity they always already ever presently and and have been

except

> in one's imagination. As T.S. Eliot said (which may not be a

verbatim

> quote), " We shall not cease from exploration. And the end of all

of

> exploring will be to return to where we started and know it again

as if

> for the first time. " Thus the never-ending and never-starting

journey

> of infinite and zero distance. Go figure!

>

> Michael

 

 

 

If you know the outcome of exploration, it is not exploration.

 

Len

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--- Adamson <adamson a écrit :

 

>

> < Notice the allowing of whatever arises to be fully

> < experienced. Some think that nondual realization

> is about

> < becoming a humongous blank... nothing affecting

> because

> < *no attachment*... a vast silent emptiness gliding

> < through timeless non-being...

>

> < ahhh!......

>

> < But I see it differently altogether. I suppose at

> one

> < time I did see things in terms of such a " gliding

> < emptiness " . I attribute that to my Buddhist

> origins.

> < But that is not my viewpoint now at all.

>

> < In my view the " emptiness " , the freedom from

> attachments,

> < is precisely what enables the full allowing of

> what

> < arises to manifest fully and completely. The

> impetus

> < to fully *be* in an authentic and complete way is

> < spontaneous, comes as from within (or so it may

> seem),

> < responding in the moment to whatever is " up "

> dynamically

> < and full of life.

>

> The way I currently see it is to be unreservedly

> present and open as

> possible so as to allow as much sensitivity to

> develop to everything as

> possible. It is not a matter of becoming " immune " ,

> " detached " , and

> " unbothered " . If anything it is to become so

> vulnerable that one is

> affected by everything, every nuance, nook, and

> cranny of life. Not just

> the " big " things but all things without exception.

> Every sensation,

> thought, image, idea, vibration, energy, urge,

> pulsation, etc. It is to

> allow oneself to be *bothered* to smithereens but in

> such a way that one

> isn't " bothered " by being " bothered " . So open and

> vulnerable that

> there's *no-thing* there to hold anything out or at

> bay so that the

> so-called *container* and *contents* merge and

> reveal *themselves* as

> the unicity they always already ever presently and

> and have been except

> in one's imagination. As T.S. Eliot said (which may

> not be a verbatim

> quote), " We shall not cease from exploration. And

> the end of all of

> exploring will be to return to where we started and

> know it again as if

> for the first time. " Thus the never-ending and

> never-starting journey

> of infinite and zero distance. Go figure!

>

> Michael

I like your post very much.

In answer to your <go figure >:

It seems to me that there was a will to experience,

which brought the experiencer. Which in turn gave us

the feeling of separadness, which in turn makes us

want to go back to Oneness.

Althought not inscribed in the fibers of Origine, it

is a process carried by it.

That is how I can explain the biblical figure : the

Fall.

 

Patricia

 

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