Guest guest Posted May 2, 2006 Report Share Posted May 2, 2006 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > < The key is that when something like that > > > comes up > > > > > > > < and I allow myself to *be* whatever it > is, > > I > > > am > > > > > > > < not trying to fix, heal, correct. And I > am > > > not > > > > > > > < *trying to surrender* either. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > < It is, or at least seems to be, that I > > have > > > learned > > > > > > > < that when something " charged " comes up > it > > is > > > best > > > > > > > < not to fight that. It is OK. No need to > > > fight anything. > > > > > > > < There is no state that is not grace. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > < Bill > > > > > > What a graceful post , thank-you. > > > > > > Patricia > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I believe another way of stating the above > > is > > > " to be > > > > uncontracted > > > > > in > > > > > > the > > > > > > > presence of contraction " . As good ol' J. > > > Krishnamurti put > > > > > it, " to make > > > > > > > absolutely no movement whatsoever in any > > > direction " . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Michael > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The attempt to make no movement.....is > > movement. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > Michael didn`t talk about attempting not to make > any > > > movements, he talked about non-reaction : > immobility > > > in face of adversity. > > > Try it.... Oh you have ??... > > > Then you know how it is!! > > > No more formulas Toomb. > > > I want milk. > > > > > > Patricia > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Any attempt by the self.......or any suggestion > given > > to....or > > received by the self...is an effort to revive the > > dead. > > > > It is the illusion of self that wants and needs > > sustenance. > > > > Without food....it atrophies....but it can live a > long > > time on nothing > > but memories. > > > > > > toombaru > > > > maybe you don`t really try to read what we are > talking > > about...it was not about revivification of the dead. > > When witnessing without reacting...you call that an > > attempt by the self? > > > > Witnessing is reacting. > > The statement that witnessing is possible without > reacting is an > ideation concocted by self....for self. > > Michael says that he " allows himself to be what he > is " . > > If he is allowing himself to be what he is....he > isn't. > > " He " cannot see himself at any given time.....by the > time he sees > " himself " ....whatever that was has moves on..... > > This 'himself' that he claims to be able to allow to > do what it is > doing is nothing other then the one observing. > > He speaks as if there were two of him....one > doing.....and one > attempting to allow the observed doing. > > Can you see the problem here? > > (And yes......I have to admit......I do like my name > at the bottom) > > > toombaru > > > HHmmm intersting... > I see the problem, > But I don`t see the solution. > Seeing that there never was a goose egg in a bottle solves the problem. toombaru And yet Toombaru, As the day goes by, There is an awareness not prompted by effort, quite on the contrary, It is there, unveiled, when effort drops on his own accord. One with what is. And what else could I say but all is well. Patricia > > ** > > If you do not wish to receive individual emails, to > change your subscription, sign in with your ID > and go to Edit My Groups: > > /mygroups?edit=1 > > Under the Message Delivery option, choose " No Email " > for the Nisargadatta group and click on Save Changes. > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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