Guest guest Posted May 4, 2006 Report Share Posted May 4, 2006 ----- Message d'origine ---- De : billrishel <illusyn À : Nisargadatta Envoyé le : Mercredi, 3 Mai 2006, 8h12mn 38s Objet : Re: Formulas Nisargadatta , ADHHUB wrote: > > > In a message dated 5/3/2006 1:19:29 AM Pacific Daylight Time, > Nisargadatta writes: > > " toombaru2006 " lastrain > Tue May 2, 2006 9:25pm(PDT) > Formulas Oh I know......it seems like there is a causal relationship between > what you believe are your volitional actions and this self thing > becoming 'enlightened'. > > You listen with rapt attention to everything every self proclainmed > sage did just before they popped into the emptiness. > > Wayne Liquorman had two lovers...one left.....he broke down and became > enlightened. > > So you consider going out and getting another lover. > > Adya heard a bird song....and ask: " Who is hearing this " ...and > BAM!.....there he wasn't. > > > And all of a sudden you find your self watching the > birds....wondering.... > > > The Buddha plunked himself down under a tree and you start asking > where the nearest Bhodi forest is. > > This is going to surprise you: > > So turn around if you still cling to a belief system that tells > you that you too can reach the lofty heights of oneness through some > concoction of the mind. > > There is absolutely no relationship between what you think you do > and losing the so called self. > > Exactly the opposite occurs. > > When the fruit is ripe.....the circumstances occur quite naturally > in which the mysterious sense of isolation flows into a dissolving > process....completely without its own help....or choice. > > The right people come along....the right words appear....a new > channel opens.......and the maturation occurs....quite > naturally ...and in spite of anything done...the organism begins to > loose its edges...it becomes translucent...and in some > cases....quite clear. > > It's all just opposite of what you've been told. > > > So use your formulas.......There are worse things to do with your > time....but there are none more unproductive. > > > > Now.........Ain't that a kick in the ass? > > > toombaru > > > > The right people come along....the right words appear....a new > channel opens.......and the maturation occurs....quite > naturally ...and in spite of anything done...the organism begins to > loose its edges...it becomes translucent...and in some > cases....quite clear. > > > Yes, it all just happens, doesn't it? It happens by itself, but it happens. > This doesn't apply just to the last 24hours before 'awakening'. It's always > so, and so does that mean the " formulas " , the explorations, the ego work, etc, > are all foolishness that should not be done at all and have no relationship > to what finally occurs? No, it's all perfect just as it is, including the > perception that this perfection is useless and pointless. > > What is truly useless and pointless is the concept of non-volition. Of what > value is this to anyone? If it's true, how does knowing this change anything, > and if hearing this does result in new choices, then the concept has just > been proven false. There is no more meaningless concept than to inform a > nonvolitional being that he has no volition. What could possibly be done with that > information? > > Phil Ha! Good one! And just as meaningless to inform a nonvolitional being that it is meaningless to so inform. The meaninglessness is really piling up here! Bill All that talk about Poouuff! disappearing in a cloud of bliss?? What about fully giving yourself to life, Results guaranteed : bliss will be at the rendez-vous that you have set by your devotion, and earnestness. I find that a lot more fun than waiting and speculating on...pouf! Love to all Patricia ** If you do not wish to receive individual emails, to change your subscription, sign in with your ID and go to Edit My Groups: /mygroups?edit=1 Under the Message Delivery option, choose " No Email " for the Nisargadatta group and click on Save Changes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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