Guest guest Posted May 4, 2006 Report Share Posted May 4, 2006 " P: One meaning of the word growth is: > > > > tumor. Spirituality could turn malignant, > > > > when used as a survival tool. The very > > > > idea that there are enlightened entities > > > > is a malignant thought. As long as > > > > beliefs such as entities, or that time could > > > > be waste, or that a list is unworthy of > > > > my wisdom are held to, enlightenment is > > > > not. > > > > > > > > > > The myth of Buddha and his " enlightenment " is > > > a particularly powerful one. > > > > > > It is easy to see (for some) that the Christian > > > story of Jesus raising from the dead etc. as a > > > myth. But for many of those same ones " enlightenment " > > > is not a myth at all. > > > > > > But what is a myth? It is a gripping vision that > > > serves as a paradigm in shaping the course of > > > the lives of those holding to it. > > > > > > In other words, a myth is a " strange attractor " . > > > > > > Bill -This post reminds me of a story of Jack Kornfield's book 'A Path With Heart' (right at the beginning) in where a monk after years of diligent and ardently meditation in the Himalayas returns to the marketplace. At returning in the streets of a busy city somebody bumped into him and the monk almost goes in a fit. -We all bump into 'something', almost every day, and continue our own unique journey. One of the most beautiful gifts we could have been given in this life. And... its free! Yes Im Dutch. The Buddha said: Seeing misery in views and opinions, without adopting any, I found inner peace and freedom. One who is free does not hold to views or dispute opinions. For a sage there is no higher, lower, no places in which the mind can stick. But those who grasp after views and opinions only wander about the world annoying people. -My my I have a lot to learn. Sukhi ho! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 5, 2006 Report Share Posted May 5, 2006 Nisargadatta , " Johan " <yohansky wrote: > > " P: One meaning of the word growth is: > > > > > tumor. Spirituality could turn malignant, > > > > > when used as a survival tool. The very > > > > > idea that there are enlightened entities > > > > > is a malignant thought. As long as > > > > > beliefs such as entities, or that time could > > > > > be waste, or that a list is unworthy of > > > > > my wisdom are held to, enlightenment is > > > > > not. > > > > > > > > > > > > > The myth of Buddha and his " enlightenment " is > > > > a particularly powerful one. > > > > > > > > It is easy to see (for some) that the Christian > > > > story of Jesus raising from the dead etc. as a > > > > myth. But for many of those same ones " enlightenment " > > > > is not a myth at all. > > > > > > > > But what is a myth? It is a gripping vision that > > > > serves as a paradigm in shaping the course of > > > > the lives of those holding to it. > > > > > > > > In other words, a myth is a " strange attractor " . > > > > > > > > Bill > > -This post reminds me of a story of Jack Kornfield's book 'A Path > With Heart' (right at the beginning) in where a monk after years of > diligent and ardently meditation in the Himalayas returns to the > marketplace. At returning in the streets of a busy city somebody > bumped into him and the monk almost goes in a fit. > > -We all bump into 'something', almost every day, and continue our > own unique journey. > One of the most beautiful gifts we could have been given in this > life. And... its free! Yes Im Dutch. > > The Buddha said: > > Seeing misery in views and opinions, without adopting any, I found > inner peace and freedom. One who is free does not hold to views or > dispute opinions. For a sage there is no higher, lower, no places > in which the mind can stick. But those who grasp after views and > opinions only wander about the world annoying people. > > -My my I have a lot to learn. > > Sukhi ho! > Oh m'God I *love* that quote!! " -My my I have a lot to learn. " Hold onto nothing, yes, but if you must hold on, hold onto that! You do have heart, don't you? Because to say that takes real courage, especially in a forum like this. And courage, of course, takes heart. Deep Bow Bill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 5, 2006 Report Share Posted May 5, 2006 --- Johan <yohansky a écrit : " P: One meaning of the word growth is: > > > > tumor. Spirituality could turn malignant, > > > > when used as a survival tool. The very > > > > idea that there are enlightened entities > > > > is a malignant thought. As long as > > > > beliefs such as entities, or that time could > > > > be waste, or that a list is unworthy of > > > > my wisdom are held to, enlightenment is > > > > not. > > > > > > > > > > The myth of Buddha and his " enlightenment " is > > > a particularly powerful one. > > > > > > It is easy to see (for some) that the Christian > > > story of Jesus raising from the dead etc. as a > > > myth. But for many of those same ones " enlightenment " > > > is not a myth at all. > > > > > > But what is a myth? It is a gripping vision that > > > serves as a paradigm in shaping the course of > > > the lives of those holding to it. > > > > > > In other words, a myth is a " strange attractor " . > > > > > > Bill -This post reminds me of a story of Jack Kornfield's book 'A Path With Heart' (right at the beginning) in where a monk after years of diligent and ardently meditation in the Himalayas returns to the marketplace. At returning in the streets of a busy city somebody bumped into him and the monk almost goes in a fit. -We all bump into 'something', almost every day, and continue our own unique journey. One of the most beautiful gifts we could have been given in this life. And... its free! Yes Im Dutch. The Buddha said: Seeing misery in views and opinions, without adopting any, I found inner peace and freedom. One who is free does not hold to views or dispute opinions. For a sage there is no higher, lower, no places in which the mind can stick. But those who grasp after views and opinions only wander about the world annoying people. -My my I have a lot to learn. Sukhi ho! and then the unlearning process... At times not a lot less anguishing.. I remember terrors of letting go all I had carefully understood,,,now it is easy to let things come...and go. Thank-you for your lovely post Johan! Patricia ** If you do not wish to receive individual emails, to change your subscription, sign in with your ID and go to Edit My Groups: /mygroups?edit=1 Under the Message Delivery option, choose " No Email " for the Nisargadatta group and click on Save Changes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 5, 2006 Report Share Posted May 5, 2006 In a message dated 5/4/2006 8:17:46 PM Pacific Daylight Time, Nisargadatta writes: " Johan " yohansky Thu May 4, 2006 2:50pm(PDT) returning monk " P: One meaning of the word growth is: > > > > tumor. Spirituality could turn malignant, > > > > when used as a survival tool. The very > > > > idea that there are enlightened entities > > > > is a malignant thought. As long as > > > > beliefs such as entities, or that time could > > > > be waste, or that a list is unworthy of > > > > my wisdom are held to, enlightenment is > > > > not. > > > > > > > > > > The myth of Buddha and his " enlightenment " is > > > a particularly powerful one. > > > > > > It is easy to see (for some) that the Christian > > > story of Jesus raising from the dead etc. as a > > > myth. But for many of those same ones " enlightenment " > > > is not a myth at all. > > > > > > But what is a myth? It is a gripping vision that > > > serves as a paradigm in shaping the course of > > > the lives of those holding to it. > > > > > > In other words, a myth is a " strange attractor " . > > > > > > Bill -This post reminds me of a story of Jack Kornfield's book 'A Path With Heart' (right at the beginning) in where a monk after years of diligent and ardently meditation in the Himalayas returns to the marketplace. At returning in the streets of a busy city somebody bumped into him and the monk almost goes in a fit. -We all bump into 'something', almost every day, and continue our own unique journey. One of the most beautiful gifts we could have been given in this life. And... its free! Yes Im Dutch. The Buddha said: Seeing misery in views and opinions, without adopting any, I found inner peace and freedom. One who is free does not hold to views or dispute opinions. For a sage there is no higher, lower, no places in which the mind can stick. But those who grasp after views and opinions only wander about the world annoying people. -My my I have a lot to learn. Sukhi ho! I agree with your view........well, not entirely, but parts of it.........I disagree with a lot of it, though........Am I there yet? Phil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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