Guest guest Posted May 6, 2006 Report Share Posted May 6, 2006 > In a neurologically sense, yes. Deep > sleep shows more electrical activity in > an encephalogram, deep sleep is more > responsive to stimuli. > > Brain death is a serious kind of dead, not as > reversible as cardiovascular death. Life, in the > human sense, is sensing. So in this way, deep > sleep, is some kind of death, but temporary, and > reversible. Death we are programmed to feel, > is bad, and sensing is good. Consciousness > is good, unconsciousness, bad; or so we feel. > But, is this so? > > Once the intimation of the true situation downs, > we realize being conscious is a shimmering on > the surface of an infinite unconscious intelligent > whole. Paradoxically, the basic sensation of our > true nature is this complete immutable lack of > any sensory input. Dead, or alive, deep coma, > or deep sleep has no meaning in that. Our > grave is our cradle. Live, sing, dance, be by all > means, a Grateful Dead. Dig it, or not! > > Pete > Just because this *is* a Nisargadatta list, thought I'd do a search on what he has to say about deep sleep. Here's the first hit from I Am That: Q: In deep sleep there is no experience of the present reality. M: The blankness of deep sleep is due entirely to the lack of specific memories. But a general memory of well-being is there. There is a difference in feeling when we say ¡¥I was deeply asleep¡¦ from ¡¥I was absent¡¦. ........... The second hit: Q: There is no ¡¥I am¡¦ in sleep. M: Before you make such sweeping statements, examine carefully your waking state. You will soon discover that it is full of gaps, when the min blanks out. Notice how little you remember even when fully awake. You just don¡¦t remember. A gap in memory is not necessarily a gap in consciousness. Q: Can I make myself remember my state of deep sleep? M: Of course! By eliminating the intervals of inadvertence during your waking hours you will gradually eliminate the long interval of absent- mindedness, which you call sleep. You will be aware that you are asleep. Bill P; " I Am That " is just Nis 101. Try the advanced stuff: " Prior to Consciousness " and " Consciousness and the Absolute. " It's in those books that he refers to consciousness as a passing fever, and the sense of selfhood as the product of the food body. He also says the Absoluteisbeyondallthat, without the body, the Absolute is not aware of itself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 6, 2006 Report Share Posted May 6, 2006 On 5/6/06, Pete S <pedsie5 wrote: > > > In a neurologically sense, yes. Deep > > sleep shows more electrical activity in > > an encephalogram, deep sleep is more > > responsive to stimuli. > > > > Brain death is a serious kind of dead, not as > > reversible as cardiovascular death. Life, in the > > human sense, is sensing. So in this way, deep > > sleep, is some kind of death, but temporary, and > > reversible. Death we are programmed to feel, > > is bad, and sensing is good. Consciousness > > is good, unconsciousness, bad; or so we feel. > > But, is this so? > > > > Once the intimation of the true situation downs, > > we realize being conscious is a shimmering on > > the surface of an infinite unconscious intelligent > > whole. Paradoxically, the basic sensation of our > > true nature is this complete immutable lack of > > any sensory input. Dead, or alive, deep coma, > > or deep sleep has no meaning in that. Our > > grave is our cradle. Live, sing, dance, be by all > > means, a Grateful Dead. Dig it, or not! > > > > Pete > > > > Just because this *is* a Nisargadatta list, thought > I'd do a search on what he has to say about deep > sleep. Here's the first hit from I Am That: > > Q: In deep sleep there is no experience of the > present reality. > > M: The blankness of deep sleep is due entirely to > the lack of specific memories. But a general memory > of well-being is there. There is a difference in > feeling when we say ¡¥I was deeply asleep¡¦ from ¡¥I > was absent¡¦. > > .......... > The second hit: > > Q: There is no ¡¥I am¡¦ in sleep. > > M: Before you make such sweeping statements, > examine carefully your waking state. You will soon > discover that it is full of gaps, when the min > blanks out. Notice how little you remember even > when fully awake. You just don¡¦t remember. A gap in > memory is not necessarily a gap in consciousness. > > Q: Can I make myself remember my state of deep > sleep? > > M: Of course! By eliminating the intervals of > inadvertence during your waking hours you will > gradually eliminate the long interval of absent- > mindedness, which you call sleep. You will be aware > that you are asleep. > > > Bill > > P; " I Am That " is just Nis 101. Try the advanced > stuff: " Prior to Consciousness " and " Consciousness > and the Absolute. " It's in those books that he > refers to consciousness as a passing fever, and > the sense of selfhood as the product of the food > body. He also says the Absoluteisbeyondallthat, > without the body, the Absolute is not aware of itself. > > >>>>>>>>> > I understand. And I've read both of those. But, you see, I have I Am That in pdf form, which makes searches easy to do, and makes pasting a quote into a message easy to do. So why would I want to mess with putting up a quote from one of those two books, neither of which do I have in pdf form? Bill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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