Guest guest Posted May 6, 2006 Report Share Posted May 6, 2006 I understand. And I've read both of those. But, you see, I have I Am That in pdf form, which makes searches easy to do, and makes pasting a quote into a message easy to do. So why would I want to mess with putting up a quote from one of those two books, neither of which do I have in pdf form? Bill P: Fairness to Nis? Those quotes you posted were not his final words on that subject. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 7, 2006 Report Share Posted May 7, 2006 On 5/6/06, Pete S <pedsie5 wrote: > > I understand. And I've read both of those. > But, you see, I have I Am That in pdf form, which > makes searches easy to do, and makes pasting > a quote into a message easy to do. > So why would I want to mess with putting up a quote > from one of those two books, neither of which do > I have in pdf form? > > > Bill > > P: Fairness to Nis? Those quotes you posted > were not his final words on that subject. > Here is a quote from Consciousness and the Absolute that references deep sleep: What is the worth of all the activities of human beings? It is all entertainment, just to pass time. You get pleasure only when you forget yourself; in deep sleep you have forgotten yourself, that itself is joy. I don't see that as being signficantly at odds with the I Am That quotes that I presented regarding deep sleep. Do you? Bill Note: for convenience to the reader the I Am That quotes referenced are here included: Q: In deep sleep there is no experience of the present reality. M: The blankness of deep sleep is due entirely to the lack of specific memories. But a general memory of well-being is there. There is a difference in feeling when we say I was deeply asleep from I was absent. .......... Q: There is no I am in sleep. M: Before you make such sweeping statements, examine carefully your waking state. You will soon discover that it is full of gaps, when the mind blanks out. Notice how little you remember even when fully awake. You just dont remember. A gap in memory is not necessarily a gap in consciousness. Q: Can I make myself remember my state of deep sleep? M: Of course! By eliminating the intervals of inadvertence during your waking hours you will gradually eliminate the long interval of absent- mindedness, which you call sleep. You will be aware that you are asleep. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 7, 2006 Report Share Posted May 7, 2006 --- Bill Rishel <illusyn a écrit : On 5/6/06, Pete S <pedsie5 wrote: > > I understand. And I've read both of those. > But, you see, I have I Am That in pdf form, which > makes searches easy to do, and makes pasting > a quote into a message easy to do. > So why would I want to mess with putting up a quote > from one of those two books, neither of which do > I have in pdf form? > > > Bill > > P: Fairness to Nis? Those quotes you posted > were not his final words on that subject. > Here is a quote from Consciousness and the Absolute that references deep sleep: What is the worth of all the activities of human beings? It is all entertainment, just to pass time. You get pleasure only when you forget yourself; in deep sleep you have forgotten yourself, that itself is joy. I don't see that as being signficantly at odds with the I Am That quotes that I presented regarding deep sleep. Do you? Bill Note: for convenience to the reader the I Am That quotes referenced are here included: Q: In deep sleep there is no experience of the present reality. M: The blankness of deep sleep is due entirely to the lack of specific memories. But a general memory of well-being is there. There is a difference in feeling when we say I was deeply asleep from I was absent. .......... Q: There is no I am in sleep. M: Before you make such sweeping statements, examine carefully your waking state. You will soon discover that it is full of gaps, when the mind blanks out. Notice how little you remember even when fully awake. You just dont remember. A gap in memory is not necessarily a gap in consciousness. Q: Can I make myself remember my state of deep sleep? M: Of course! By eliminating the intervals of inadvertence during your waking hours you will gradually eliminate the long interval of absent- mindedness, which you call sleep. You will be aware that you are asleep. .................................................................................\ .................... Those insomnias that I used to struggle with : Now I can stay very quiet, not asleep nor awake, fully present, a lot more than in awaken state, it is like travelling into space. And a wonderful sense of rest and quietude.. Where does that fit, deep sleep, awaken state, blissful semi-coma? Patricia Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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