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In a message dated 5/7/2006 9:07:28 AM Pacific Daylight Time,

bigwaaba writes:

 

> Maybe light, and infinity give a sense

> >of the feeling it brings, but not quite.

> >No, it's not you, nor is it me, but we

> >are not excluded, no thing is.

> >

> >Pete

 

L.E: This makes no sense to me. No thing is excluded but yet it is not you,

and not me. He just can't accept the he is included perhaps because of doubt,

self-loathing, fear, or whatever. He thinks we stand outside yet at the same

time are inside. What a predicament. It will resolve itself eventually,

probably. I don't have this problem. Do you?

 

> >

>

> yes

> I am That

> I am

> I

> I am That by which I know that I am

 

 

Yes it is, yes I am, yes we are,

All of That.

 

>

>

>

>

 

 

 

 

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Phil: yes

I am That

I am

I

I am That by which I know that I am.

 

LOL. According to Nis, you are the

smell of a horse that came, and went,

and, once, pissed on this dusty road.

 

Pete

 

 

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Nisargadatta , Pete S <pedsie5 wrote:

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> Phil: yes

> I am That

> I am

> I

> I am That by which I know that I am.

>

> LOL. According to Nis, you are the

> smell of a horse that came, and went,

> and, once, pissed on this dusty road.

>

> Pete

 

it happens

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Nisargadatta , " bigwaaba " <bigwaaba wrote:

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> Nisargadatta , Pete S <pedsie5@> wrote:

> >

> > Phil: yes

> > I am That

> > I am

> > I

> > I am That by which I know that I am.

> >

> > LOL. According to Nis, you are the

> > smell of a horse that came, and went,

> > and, once, pissed on this dusty road.

> >

> > Pete

>

> it happens

 

as consciousness, as " I am " happens

 

the untouched " I " which is not personal

which is not

nothing can deny

 

 

 

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Nisargadatta , epston wrote:

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> In a message dated 5/7/2006 9:07:28 AM Pacific Daylight Time,

> bigwaaba writes:

>

> > Maybe light, and infinity give a sense

> > >of the feeling it brings, but not quite.

> > >No, it's not you, nor is it me, but we

> > >are not excluded, no thing is.

> > >

> > >Pete

>

> L.E: This makes no sense to me. No thing is excluded but yet it is

not you,

> and not me.

 

> He just can't accept the he is included perhaps because of doubt,

> self-loathing, fear, or whatever.

 

I'm going to endeavor to respond a bit more to your

messages, Larry. But you will not find any sugar coating!

 

So regarding your comment above, to me that is absurd

beyond words. What " he " says makes no sense to you.

OK. No problem so far. But then you launch into your

conclusions about *him*. What's the problem with this?

 

1. If what he says makes no sense to you, I suggest that

should be a slow-down, let's reflect/inquire. It *could*

mean that what he is talking about is something that you

have not experienced yet, that goes beyond what you know

at this point. A possibility? If you are not open to

such a possibility then what is the point of participating

on this list?

 

2. But you seem not to consider that possibility here.

Rather you conclude that since what he is saying makes

no sense to you, then *he must be confused*! Specifically

you say: " He just can't accept the he is included perhaps

because of doubt, self-loathing, fear, or whatever. "

 

Please don't show me that you are one of those for whom

anyone who expresses a different view is regarded as an idiot.

 

Bill

 

 

> He thinks we stand outside yet at the same

> time are inside. What a predicament. It will resolve itself

eventually,

> probably. I don't have this problem. Do you?

>

> > >

> >

> > yes

> > I am That

> > I am

> > I

> > I am That by which I know that I am

>

>

> Yes it is, yes I am, yes we are,

> All of That.

>

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Nisargadatta , " bigwaaba " <bigwaaba wrote:

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> Nisargadatta , Pete S <pedsie5@> wrote:

> >

> > You, I, and self are not That, which is.

> > No thing, I can call mine, is It. Is

> > neither Consciousness, Awareness,

> > nor deep sleep. It's even above being,

> > or being not.

> >

> > And yet it can fill consciousness

> > in the same way sunlight fills a mirror

> > transforming it into a blinding sun.

> >

> > Maybe light, and infinity give a sense

> > of the feeling it brings, but not quite.

> > No, it's not you, nor is it me, but we

> > are not excluded, no thing is.

> >

> > Pete

> >

>

> yes

> I am That

> I am

> I

> I am That by which I know that I am

>

** Did he do a 180 on ya, Pete?

No matter. At all.

 

Really friends, what can words light-up,

In this pitch-black luminosity?

 

Words can't create or hold anything.

Shit! Just like This...The 'Absolute'

 

;+)

 

 

Ken

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Nisargadatta , Pete S <pedsie5 wrote:

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> Phil: yes

> I am That

> I am

> I

> I am That by which I know that I am.

>

> LOL. According to Nis, you are the

> smell of a horse that came, and went,

> and, once, pissed on this dusty road.

>

> Pete

 

** Well ain't That-and-that a pisser!

>

>

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Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111

wrote:

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> Nisargadatta , " kenj02001 " <kenj02001@>

> wrote:

> >

> > Nisargadatta , " bigwaaba " <bigwaaba@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Nisargadatta , Pete S <pedsie5@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > You, I, and self are not That, which is.

> > > > No thing, I can call mine, is It. Is

> > > > neither Consciousness, Awareness,

> > > > nor deep sleep. It's even above being,

> > > > or being not.

> > > >

> > > > And yet it can fill consciousness

> > > > in the same way sunlight fills a mirror

> > > > transforming it into a blinding sun.

> > > >

> > > > Maybe light, and infinity give a sense

> > > > of the feeling it brings, but not quite.

> > > > No, it's not you, nor is it me, but we

> > > > are not excluded, no thing is.

> > > >

> > > > Pete

> > > >

> > >

> > > yes

> > > I am That

> > > I am

> > > I

> > > I am That by which I know that I am

> > >

> > ** Did he do a 180 on ya, Pete?

> > No matter. At all.

> >

> > Really friends, what can words light-up,

> > In this pitch-black luminosity?

> >

> > Words can't create or hold anything.

> > Shit! Just like This...The 'Absolute'

> >

> > ;+)

> >

> >

> > Ken

>

>

> When it blows,

>

> The mountain wind is boisterous,

>

> But when it blows not,

>

> It simply blows not.

>

> Ikkyu

>

** Ikkme? Ikkyu!!

 

Geez, Bob, have you noticed there's alot of wind

about today?

 

I know we can't know much, but I wonder if

Jane Eyre ever caught a wind up her skirt?

 

Ken

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In a message dated 5/7/2006 10:03:14 AM Pacific Daylight Time,

Nisargadatta writes:

 

" Pete S " pedsie5

Sun May 7, 2006 9:53am(PDT)

Awareness Is Not

 

Phil: yes

I am That

I am

I

I am That by which I know that I am.

 

LOL. According to Nis, you are the

smell of a horse that came, and went,

and, once, pissed on this dusty road.

 

Pete

 

 

 

Not my words. It would be my preference that you not attribute anything at

all to me.

 

Phil

 

 

 

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