Datta Swami: On and On and On

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L.E: This stuff is sooooo bad news to me. Advaita scholars may be good at

literature and still lost in confusion. We don't know who we are talking about.

Just to generalize about " Advaita scholars " if foolishness right from the start.

I don' think they claim that Atman is God, or even consider that a certain god

or gods exist. And if they are wrong in one small point, that's being correct

about a lot of ideas. It just goes on and on like all the religionists who use

the history of scripture and writing to confuse people. Usually the experts in

this stuff are more confused that those they preach to. The priests that are

predators, those that advocate non-sexualality who see prostitutes, those who

condemn lying who lie, the practicing homosexuals who belong to religions that

condemn homosexuality, etc.

 

 

Dear friend;

 

All the arguments of the Advaita scholars are perfectly correct except for one

small point: that awareness or Atman is not God as they claim. Awareness is not

known to the majority and therefore the soul is unimaginable to the majority.

The soul is certainly known to the minority who are very sharp scholars. The

Veda says that Atman is known only to sharp scholars and the Veda does not say

that Atman is God in this context. The Veda says here that Atman is embedded in

the human being secretly (Drushyatetvagraya…, Atma guhayam…). Awareness

requires

the existence of two items. One is the inert energy that is obtained from the

digestion of food (Annat Purashah—Veda). The second is the nervous system,

which

alone can convert this inert energy in to awareness on functioning. Thus,

awareness is dependent on these two items but God is independent and does not

depend on any other item. Thus, the scholars who argue only based on the

scriptures can also be answered about this

concept based on the scriptures and logic (Tarka Shastra).

 

Matter (food) is converted into energy and awareness is a form of energy.

Thus, matter and awareness are interconvertible. When a human being called

‘Ahalya’ was converted into an inert statue and again when the statue was

converted into a human being, this interconversion is proved. When Ahalya became

a stone, her soul did not go to the upper world. It remained there itself.

Awareness is an item of creation and therefore exactly duplicate souls were

created by Lord Krishna when some souls were stolen by Prajapati. All these

points clearly show that awareness is a conversion of inert matter and a form of

inert energy; it is only an item of creation.

 

If one accepts science, it is very easy to prove that awareness is a special

form of inert energy flowing through the nervous system while functioning. A

robot is just a duplicate of a human being. The current flowing in the wires is

the awareness flowing in the nervous system. The information stored in the chip

is exactly the information stored in the brain. The brain is a system of several

microprocessors working simultaneously, which grasps all the information

regarding an object in one instance. You can treat the brain as a CD [or hard

disk] in which information is stored in the form of written impressions on

matter or you can treat brain as the RAM (of the computer) in which the

information is stored in the form of pulses of electromagnetic energy. This

does not make any difference from a spiritual point of view. It is a topic of

science.

 

Even in science a physicist does not differentiate between matter and energy.

Thus, using science it is clearly proved that awareness is only inert energy

which on functioning through the nervous system, gets converted to a specific

form by doing a specific form of work. In fact, awareness is a form of special

work done by the inert energy. Since, work is also a form of energy, all these

classifications come under the topic of science alone and have no spiritual

significance. But science clearly analyses every item, which is not God and

helps us realize that no item in creation is God. Science analyses every item of

creation and with the help of such analysis we can know that no item of creation

is God.

 

Science cannot show what God is but it can clearly show what God is not. There

is no item in creation, which cannot be analyzed by science. Therefore, no item

of the creation is God. Even the so-called philosophy has not shown God. It too

has only shown what God is not. The Veda says that the sages, who were the

greatest philosophers, rejected every item of creation as not God (Neti

Neti...). They have concluded that God is beyond words, mind, intelligence,

logic and even any type of imagination. Thus, both philosophy and science fail

to give any positive information about God. Thus, you should not reject both

philosophy and science because even if they have not shown God, at least they

have shown that no item in the creation is God. Thus, these two have helped us

by preventing us from being under the illusion that some item like awareness,

which is almost unimaginable, is God. At least science and philosophy could

protect us from taking this wrong route. Therefore, every

spiritual seeker should develop a sharp analytical faculty of logic, which

means he has to study science.

 

In fact, any student of philosophy (Vedanta) is supposed to learn logic (Tarka

Shastra). It is just like a student of physics must learn mathematics. Some

people are misleading devotees by saying that since God is beyond logic, logic

should not be used. This is a very dangerous statement. This means that you

should leave logic and blindly follow whatever nonsense is preached by such

people. Even though logic may not help in finding the real nature of God, it

will at least help in identifying and rejecting the nonsense, which is all items

other than God. Thus logic prevents you from falling into the trap of such

nonsense. You should have the weapon of logic in your hands so that you are not

misled into the wrong path, even though logic does not show you the right path.

 

Therefore, all the Acharyas like Shankara, Ramanuja and Madhva were great

scholars of logic. All their commentaries dealt with the items, which are not

God. Through powerful logic they eliminated the wrong routes and wrong items

that are claimed to be God. Only by this analysis could they indirectly

establish that God is completely unimaginable and that He is beyond logic. The

Gita says that the Brahma Sutras with their logic can only draw conclusions

(Brahma Sutra Padaischaiva…). Even in the Bible, whatever Jesus spoke was very

logical and He rejected the wrong interpretations of the priests through

powerful logic. Therefore, at least for this purpose, logic is useful.

 

 

At the Lotus Feet of Shri Datta Swami

 

www.Universal-spirituality.org

 

 

 

 

 

 

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