Guest guest Posted May 10, 2006 Report Share Posted May 10, 2006 Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " pliantheart " <illusyn@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , OConnor Patricia <gdtige@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I feel revolted. > > > > > > > > > The revulsion is the result of everything that has occured in your > past. > > > > > > It is a reaction to your perception of what is occuring between two > > > personalities...about which you know very little. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > That Phil leaves because of Larry and other immature > > > > > stupidity is TOO BAD!! > > > > > > > > > Phil's reaction could not been other then it was. > > > And Larry played his part perfectly. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I love Nisargadatta`s teaching because of his noble > > > > > kindness and extremely abrupt invitation to truth. > > > > > > > > > > > > Wishing things to be different then they are is the avoidance of the > > > truth of which he speaks. > > > > > > > > > The attempt to manipulate the dream into a more comfortable and > > > hospitable place is not likely to lead to a deeper undersatnding. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > None of that in those caracteres. Again, I wonder > > > > > why they bother posting here. > > > > > > > > > They have no choice.....and you have no choice but to wonder. > > > > > > > > > > > > > And it will be too ridiculous to ask of poeple to > > > > mind others, to open oneself, to extend the heart they > > > > are looking for. > > > > > > > > > You can ask. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The way to find one`s heart is to use it, to extend > > > > it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The way to find one's heart is the understanding that it never > > > was.....or ever could be..... lost. > > > > > > > the heart is not about understanding, is it? > > > > understanding leaves off where the heart begins > > > > the heart begins where understanding leaves off > > > > > > > > > Understanding destroys all distinctions like 'heart' and 'not heart' > > > > toombaru > when Life sweeps in then " understanding " is either defunct and void of relevance or Understanding is Life itself perhaps the latter is what you mean I was referring to the former as for the end of all distinctions such as 'heart' etc., a short two months ago I would have agreed completely for while heart had been the path all those distinctions dissolved in the Living Now the Sparkling Presence it was as if heart/Heart had so expanded that there was nothing that was not heart but now a new dimension it is not that heart is a separate " something " , a division within some " psychic field of experience " ... [there *is no* psychic field of experience] and it is very difficult to speak of but " heart " is now a meaningful term again not as a separation of inner and outer not as a distinction at all all is heart (as before) but there is something very alive coming *as if* from within, even though no sense of inside/outside so obviously I cannot explain but what I speak of is what I know that there is something very alive coming *as if* from within even though no sense of inside/outside and again this cannot be " understood " it can only be " realized " Bill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 10, 2006 Report Share Posted May 10, 2006 Nisargadatta , " pliantheart " <illusyn wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " pliantheart " <illusyn@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , OConnor Patricia <gdtige@> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I feel revolted. > > > > > > > > > > > > The revulsion is the result of everything that has occured in your > > past. > > > > > > > > It is a reaction to your perception of what is occuring between two > > > > personalities...about which you know very little. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > That Phil leaves because of Larry and other immature > > > > > > stupidity is TOO BAD!! > > > > > > > > > > > > Phil's reaction could not been other then it was. > > > > And Larry played his part perfectly. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I love Nisargadatta`s teaching because of his noble > > > > > > kindness and extremely abrupt invitation to truth. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Wishing things to be different then they are is the avoidance of the > > > > truth of which he speaks. > > > > > > > > > > > > The attempt to manipulate the dream into a more comfortable and > > > > hospitable place is not likely to lead to a deeper undersatnding. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > None of that in those caracteres. Again, I wonder > > > > > > why they bother posting here. > > > > > > > > > > > > They have no choice.....and you have no choice but to wonder. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > And it will be too ridiculous to ask of poeple to > > > > > mind others, to open oneself, to extend the heart they > > > > > are looking for. > > > > > > > > > > > > You can ask. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The way to find one`s heart is to use it, to extend > > > > > it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The way to find one's heart is the understanding that it never > > > > was.....or ever could be..... lost. > > > > > > > > > > the heart is not about understanding, is it? > > > > > > understanding leaves off where the heart begins > > > > > > the heart begins where understanding leaves off > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Understanding destroys all distinctions like 'heart' and 'not heart' > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > when Life sweeps in > then " understanding " is either defunct and void of relevance > or Understanding is Life itself > > perhaps the latter is what you mean > I was referring to the former > > as for the end of all distinctions such as 'heart' etc., > a short two months ago I would have agreed completely > > for while heart had been the path > all those distinctions dissolved in the > Living Now > the Sparkling Presence > > it was as if heart/Heart had so expanded > that there was nothing that was not heart > > but now > a new dimension > > it is not that heart is a separate " something " , > a division within some " psychic field of experience " ... > [there *is no* psychic field of experience] > > and it is very difficult to speak of > > but " heart " is now a meaningful term again > > not as a separation of inner and outer > > not as a distinction at all > > all is heart (as before) > but there is something very alive > coming *as if* from within, > even though no sense of inside/outside > > so obviously I cannot explain > > but what I speak of is what I know > > that there is something very alive > coming *as if* from within > even though no sense of inside/outside > > and again this cannot be " understood " > > it can only be " realized " > > > Bill > Indeed Bill, Love is made 'real'- real " I " zed alive...breathing... This Is. I Am. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 10, 2006 Report Share Posted May 10, 2006 On 5/9/06, anabebe57 <anabebe57 wrote: > Nisargadatta , " pliantheart " <illusyn > wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> > wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " pliantheart " <illusyn@> > wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , OConnor Patricia > <gdtige@> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I feel revolted. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The revulsion is the result of everything that has occured in > your > > > past. > > > > > > > > > > It is a reaction to your perception of what is occuring > between two > > > > > personalities...about which you know very little. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > That Phil leaves because of Larry and other immature > > > > > > > stupidity is TOO BAD!! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Phil's reaction could not been other then it was. > > > > > And Larry played his part perfectly. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I love Nisargadatta`s teaching because of his noble > > > > > > > kindness and extremely abrupt invitation to truth. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Wishing things to be different then they are is the avoidance > of the > > > > > truth of which he speaks. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The attempt to manipulate the dream into a more comfortable > and > > > > > hospitable place is not likely to lead to a deeper > undersatnding. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > None of that in those caracteres. Again, I wonder > > > > > > > why they bother posting here. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > They have no choice.....and you have no choice but to wonder. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > And it will be too ridiculous to ask of poeple to > > > > > > mind others, to open oneself, to extend the heart they > > > > > > are looking for. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You can ask. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The way to find one`s heart is to use it, to extend > > > > > > it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The way to find one's heart is the understanding that it never > > > > > was.....or ever could be..... lost. > > > > > > > > > > > > > the heart is not about understanding, is it? > > > > > > > > understanding leaves off where the heart begins > > > > > > > > the heart begins where understanding leaves off > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Understanding destroys all distinctions like 'heart' and 'not > heart' > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > when Life sweeps in > > then " understanding " is either defunct and void of relevance > > or Understanding is Life itself > > > > perhaps the latter is what you mean > > I was referring to the former > > > > as for the end of all distinctions such as 'heart' etc., > > a short two months ago I would have agreed completely > > > > for while heart had been the path > > all those distinctions dissolved in the > > Living Now > > the Sparkling Presence > > > > it was as if heart/Heart had so expanded > > that there was nothing that was not heart > > > > but now > > a new dimension > > > > it is not that heart is a separate " something " , > > a division within some " psychic field of experience " ... > > [there *is no* psychic field of experience] > > > > and it is very difficult to speak of > > > > but " heart " is now a meaningful term again > > > > not as a separation of inner and outer > > > > not as a distinction at all > > > > all is heart (as before) > > but there is something very alive > > coming *as if* from within, > > even though no sense of inside/outside > > > > so obviously I cannot explain > > > > but what I speak of is what I know > > > > that there is something very alive > > coming *as if* from within > > even though no sense of inside/outside > > > > and again this cannot be " understood " > > > > it can only be " realized " > > > > > > Bill > > > > > Indeed Bill, > > Love is made 'real'- real " I " zed > > alive...breathing... > > This Is. > > I Am. > Ana, I know your way of communicating is by way of your poety. And a very beautiful way it is! But when, upon occasion, you speak directly... as you do here... quite wonderful! Bill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 10, 2006 Report Share Posted May 10, 2006 On 5/9/06, toombaru2006 <lastrain wrote: > > > > > > > > when Life sweeps in > > then " understanding " is either defunct and void of relevance > > or Understanding is Life itself > > > > perhaps the latter is what you mean > > I was referring to the former > > > > as for the end of all distinctions such as 'heart' etc., > > a short two months ago I would have agreed completely > > > > for while heart had been the path > > all those distinctions dissolved in the > > Living Now > > the Sparkling Presence > > > > it was as if heart/Heart had so expanded > > that there was nothing that was not heart > > > > but now > > a new dimension > > > > it is not that heart is a separate " something " , > > a division within some " psychic field of experience " ... > > [there *is no* psychic field of experience] > > > > and it is very difficult to speak of > > > > but " heart " is now a meaningful term again > > > > not as a separation of inner and outer > > > > not as a distinction at all > > > > all is heart (as before) > > but there is something very alive > > coming *as if* from within, > > even though no sense of inside/outside > > > > so obviously I cannot explain > > > > but what I speak of is what I know > > > > that there is something very alive > > coming *as if* from within > > even though no sense of inside/outside > > > > and again this cannot be " understood " > > > > it can only be " realized " > > > > > > Bill > > > > > > > Would you like a scone? > > > > toombaru > ) I'd be delighted Toomb! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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