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Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain wrote:

>

> Nisargadatta , " pliantheart " <illusyn@> wrote:

> >

> > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Nisargadatta , OConnor Patricia <gdtige@>

wrote:

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > I feel revolted.

> > >

> > >

> > > The revulsion is the result of everything that has occured in your

> past.

> > >

> > > It is a reaction to your perception of what is occuring between two

> > > personalities...about which you know very little.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > > > That Phil leaves because of Larry and other immature

> > > > > stupidity is TOO BAD!!

> > >

> > >

> > > Phil's reaction could not been other then it was.

> > > And Larry played his part perfectly.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > > > I love Nisargadatta`s teaching because of his noble

> > > > > kindness and extremely abrupt invitation to truth.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Wishing things to be different then they are is the avoidance of the

> > > truth of which he speaks.

> > >

> > >

> > > The attempt to manipulate the dream into a more comfortable and

> > > hospitable place is not likely to lead to a deeper undersatnding.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > > > None of that in those caracteres. Again, I wonder

> > > > > why they bother posting here.

> > >

> > >

> > > They have no choice.....and you have no choice but to wonder.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > > And it will be too ridiculous to ask of poeple to

> > > > mind others, to open oneself, to extend the heart they

> > > > are looking for.

> > >

> > >

> > > You can ask.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > > The way to find one`s heart is to use it, to extend

> > > > it.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > The way to find one's heart is the understanding that it never

> > > was.....or ever could be..... lost.

> > >

> >

> > the heart is not about understanding, is it?

> >

> > understanding leaves off where the heart begins

> >

> > the heart begins where understanding leaves off

> >

> >

> >

>

>

> Understanding destroys all distinctions like 'heart' and 'not heart'

>

>

>

> toombaru

>

 

when Life sweeps in

then " understanding " is either defunct and void of relevance

or Understanding is Life itself

 

perhaps the latter is what you mean

I was referring to the former

 

as for the end of all distinctions such as 'heart' etc.,

a short two months ago I would have agreed completely

 

for while heart had been the path

all those distinctions dissolved in the

Living Now

the Sparkling Presence

 

it was as if heart/Heart had so expanded

that there was nothing that was not heart

 

but now

a new dimension

 

it is not that heart is a separate " something " ,

a division within some " psychic field of experience " ...

[there *is no* psychic field of experience]

 

and it is very difficult to speak of

 

but " heart " is now a meaningful term again

 

not as a separation of inner and outer

 

not as a distinction at all

 

all is heart (as before)

but there is something very alive

coming *as if* from within,

even though no sense of inside/outside

 

so obviously I cannot explain

 

but what I speak of is what I know

 

that there is something very alive

coming *as if* from within

even though no sense of inside/outside

 

and again this cannot be " understood "

 

it can only be " realized "

 

 

Bill

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Nisargadatta , " pliantheart " <illusyn

wrote:

>

> Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@>

wrote:

> >

> > Nisargadatta , " pliantheart " <illusyn@>

wrote:

> > >

> > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@>

wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Nisargadatta , OConnor Patricia

<gdtige@>

> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I feel revolted.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > The revulsion is the result of everything that has occured in

your

> > past.

> > > >

> > > > It is a reaction to your perception of what is occuring

between two

> > > > personalities...about which you know very little.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > That Phil leaves because of Larry and other immature

> > > > > > stupidity is TOO BAD!!

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Phil's reaction could not been other then it was.

> > > > And Larry played his part perfectly.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > I love Nisargadatta`s teaching because of his noble

> > > > > > kindness and extremely abrupt invitation to truth.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Wishing things to be different then they are is the avoidance

of the

> > > > truth of which he speaks.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > The attempt to manipulate the dream into a more comfortable

and

> > > > hospitable place is not likely to lead to a deeper

undersatnding.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > None of that in those caracteres. Again, I wonder

> > > > > > why they bother posting here.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > They have no choice.....and you have no choice but to wonder.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > > And it will be too ridiculous to ask of poeple to

> > > > > mind others, to open oneself, to extend the heart they

> > > > > are looking for.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > You can ask.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > > The way to find one`s heart is to use it, to extend

> > > > > it.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > The way to find one's heart is the understanding that it never

> > > > was.....or ever could be..... lost.

> > > >

> > >

> > > the heart is not about understanding, is it?

> > >

> > > understanding leaves off where the heart begins

> > >

> > > the heart begins where understanding leaves off

> > >

> > >

> > >

> >

> >

> > Understanding destroys all distinctions like 'heart' and 'not

heart'

> >

> >

> >

> > toombaru

> >

>

> when Life sweeps in

> then " understanding " is either defunct and void of relevance

> or Understanding is Life itself

>

> perhaps the latter is what you mean

> I was referring to the former

>

> as for the end of all distinctions such as 'heart' etc.,

> a short two months ago I would have agreed completely

>

> for while heart had been the path

> all those distinctions dissolved in the

> Living Now

> the Sparkling Presence

>

> it was as if heart/Heart had so expanded

> that there was nothing that was not heart

>

> but now

> a new dimension

>

> it is not that heart is a separate " something " ,

> a division within some " psychic field of experience " ...

> [there *is no* psychic field of experience]

>

> and it is very difficult to speak of

>

> but " heart " is now a meaningful term again

>

> not as a separation of inner and outer

>

> not as a distinction at all

>

> all is heart (as before)

> but there is something very alive

> coming *as if* from within,

> even though no sense of inside/outside

>

> so obviously I cannot explain

>

> but what I speak of is what I know

>

> that there is something very alive

> coming *as if* from within

> even though no sense of inside/outside

>

> and again this cannot be " understood "

>

> it can only be " realized "

>

>

> Bill

>

 

 

Indeed Bill,

 

Love is made 'real'- real " I " zed

 

alive...breathing...

 

This Is.

 

I Am.

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On 5/9/06, anabebe57 <anabebe57 wrote:

> Nisargadatta , " pliantheart " <illusyn

> wrote:

> >

> > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@>

> wrote:

> > >

> > > Nisargadatta , " pliantheart " <illusyn@>

> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@>

> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Nisargadatta , OConnor Patricia

> <gdtige@>

> > wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I feel revolted.

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > The revulsion is the result of everything that has occured in

> your

> > > past.

> > > > >

> > > > > It is a reaction to your perception of what is occuring

> between two

> > > > > personalities...about which you know very little.

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > > > That Phil leaves because of Larry and other immature

> > > > > > > stupidity is TOO BAD!!

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Phil's reaction could not been other then it was.

> > > > > And Larry played his part perfectly.

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > > > I love Nisargadatta`s teaching because of his noble

> > > > > > > kindness and extremely abrupt invitation to truth.

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Wishing things to be different then they are is the avoidance

> of the

> > > > > truth of which he speaks.

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > The attempt to manipulate the dream into a more comfortable

> and

> > > > > hospitable place is not likely to lead to a deeper

> undersatnding.

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > > > None of that in those caracteres. Again, I wonder

> > > > > > > why they bother posting here.

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > They have no choice.....and you have no choice but to wonder.

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > > And it will be too ridiculous to ask of poeple to

> > > > > > mind others, to open oneself, to extend the heart they

> > > > > > are looking for.

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > You can ask.

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > > The way to find one`s heart is to use it, to extend

> > > > > > it.

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > The way to find one's heart is the understanding that it never

> > > > > was.....or ever could be..... lost.

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > > the heart is not about understanding, is it?

> > > >

> > > > understanding leaves off where the heart begins

> > > >

> > > > the heart begins where understanding leaves off

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Understanding destroys all distinctions like 'heart' and 'not

> heart'

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > toombaru

> > >

> >

> > when Life sweeps in

> > then " understanding " is either defunct and void of relevance

> > or Understanding is Life itself

> >

> > perhaps the latter is what you mean

> > I was referring to the former

> >

> > as for the end of all distinctions such as 'heart' etc.,

> > a short two months ago I would have agreed completely

> >

> > for while heart had been the path

> > all those distinctions dissolved in the

> > Living Now

> > the Sparkling Presence

> >

> > it was as if heart/Heart had so expanded

> > that there was nothing that was not heart

> >

> > but now

> > a new dimension

> >

> > it is not that heart is a separate " something " ,

> > a division within some " psychic field of experience " ...

> > [there *is no* psychic field of experience]

> >

> > and it is very difficult to speak of

> >

> > but " heart " is now a meaningful term again

> >

> > not as a separation of inner and outer

> >

> > not as a distinction at all

> >

> > all is heart (as before)

> > but there is something very alive

> > coming *as if* from within,

> > even though no sense of inside/outside

> >

> > so obviously I cannot explain

> >

> > but what I speak of is what I know

> >

> > that there is something very alive

> > coming *as if* from within

> > even though no sense of inside/outside

> >

> > and again this cannot be " understood "

> >

> > it can only be " realized "

> >

> >

> > Bill

> >

>

>

> Indeed Bill,

>

> Love is made 'real'- real " I " zed

>

> alive...breathing...

>

> This Is.

>

> I Am.

>

 

Ana,

 

I know your way of communicating is by way

of your poety. And a very beautiful way it is!

 

But when, upon occasion, you speak directly...

as you do here... quite wonderful!

 

Bill

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On 5/9/06, toombaru2006 <lastrain wrote:

>

> > >

> >

> > when Life sweeps in

> > then " understanding " is either defunct and void of relevance

> > or Understanding is Life itself

> >

> > perhaps the latter is what you mean

> > I was referring to the former

> >

> > as for the end of all distinctions such as 'heart' etc.,

> > a short two months ago I would have agreed completely

> >

> > for while heart had been the path

> > all those distinctions dissolved in the

> > Living Now

> > the Sparkling Presence

> >

> > it was as if heart/Heart had so expanded

> > that there was nothing that was not heart

> >

> > but now

> > a new dimension

> >

> > it is not that heart is a separate " something " ,

> > a division within some " psychic field of experience " ...

> > [there *is no* psychic field of experience]

> >

> > and it is very difficult to speak of

> >

> > but " heart " is now a meaningful term again

> >

> > not as a separation of inner and outer

> >

> > not as a distinction at all

> >

> > all is heart (as before)

> > but there is something very alive

> > coming *as if* from within,

> > even though no sense of inside/outside

> >

> > so obviously I cannot explain

> >

> > but what I speak of is what I know

> >

> > that there is something very alive

> > coming *as if* from within

> > even though no sense of inside/outside

> >

> > and again this cannot be " understood "

> >

> > it can only be " realized "

> >

> >

> > Bill

> >

>

>

>

>

> Would you like a scone?

>

>

>

> toombaru

>

 

:))

 

I'd be delighted Toomb!

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