Guest guest Posted May 14, 2006 Report Share Posted May 14, 2006 Suppose you realized enlightenment. I would say complete enlightenment but that's silly. Of course it would be COMPLETE enlightenment. Like pregnancy, you can't just have a LITTLE bit of it. It's here or it's not. Period. Anyway, suppose this was so. You are THERE. Who could you tell about it? Members on a non-duality list. Ha ha ha ! C'mon. Suppose you won the PowerBall!...$500,000,000.!!!!! and that NOW of all times, God/the Universe/ The All/ Self...whatever....played a real neat trick on you and sucked everybody else out of 'your' world and left you alone with absolutely no one to tell the great news to. How happy would you be with your newly aquired half a billion bucks? No one to show how super wealthy and cool you now were, now that " all your troubles' were gone? Ha ha ha! Well even if that dirty trick wasn't in the offing, after you told everyone then left them behind or not, my bet is, within a short period of time, the thrill would be gone(Thank you Riley[better known as B.B.]King). Without 'others', at least while stuck here in duality, what the hell would anything mean? No matter what you gained or what you lost or how happy you were or how heartbroken you felt...and there was NO ONE HERE to tell...would you laugh, cry..what? Whereas it may be that there are no souls and never have been etc., unless and until, you have no need of communicating, if that was your experience for real, and not just something to write and try to impress others with your 'achievement', LONELINESS prevails. Not that that would be new. Loneliness IS. IT is the driving force. We desire to connect. After all the actualizing, realizing, gaining of degrees and financial success, and achievement and and 'findings of truth and meaning'.........We are still lonely. Why? I don't know. But if it were not so, and if any one of us here were to really NOT be lonely.....why are we here posting back and forth? No choice? Observing only? Thoughts come and go but you 'THE GROUND' remain unmoved and ALL THAT CRAP. As I said earlier: C'mon with you! Shallow or deep or wise or stupid, THIS IS FACT.I may be THAT, but THIS is LONELY, and I do not fully feel that I am THAT, if I am writing this.....no matter what I say or how I try to come off, until the time of no more 'me' and no more writing to lists to kill time or communicate or explain, or whatever......I am feeling alone...unenlightened.....needing....letting the Lord be my Shepherd by a thousand different names and myths and metaphors. Excuse the lengthy post, but I was in need of communicating it and connecting with whoever receives the communication. And if any soul says that this is not the case for themselves as well......well delusion is another important aspect of this world we live in and that's OK too. Just some 'Sunday Morning Comin Down' thoughts and things. .........bob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 14, 2006 Report Share Posted May 14, 2006 Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111 wrote: > > Suppose you realized enlightenment. I would say complete enlightenment > but that's silly. Of course it would be COMPLETE enlightenment. Like > pregnancy, you can't just have a LITTLE bit of it. It's here or it's > not. Period. Anyway, suppose this was so. You are THERE. Who could you > tell about it? Members on a non-duality list. Ha ha ha ! C'mon. > Suppose you won the PowerBall!...$500,000,000.!!!!! and that NOW of all > times, God/the Universe/ The All/ Self...whatever....played a real neat > trick on you and sucked everybody else out of 'your' world and left you > alone with absolutely no one to tell the great news to. How happy would > you be with your newly aquired half a billion bucks? No one to show how > super wealthy and cool you now were, now that " all your troubles' were > gone? Ha ha ha! Well even if that dirty trick wasn't in the offing, > after you told everyone then left them behind or not, my bet is, within > a short period of time, the thrill would be gone(Thank you Riley [better > known as B.B.]King). Without 'others', at least while stuck here in > duality, what the hell would anything mean? No matter what you gained > or what you lost or how happy you were or how heartbroken you > felt...and there was NO ONE HERE to tell...would you laugh, cry..what? > Whereas it may be that there are no souls and never have been etc., > unless and until, you have no need of communicating, if that was your > experience for real, and not just something to write and try to impress > others with your 'achievement', LONELINESS prevails. Not that that > would be new. Loneliness IS. IT is the driving force. We desire to > connect. After all the actualizing, realizing, gaining of degrees and > financial success, and achievement and and 'findings of truth and > meaning'.........We are still lonely. Why? I don't know. But if it were > not so, and if any one of us here were to really NOT be lonely.....why > are we here posting back and forth? No choice? Observing only? Thoughts > come and go but you 'THE GROUND' remain unmoved and ALL THAT CRAP. As I > said earlier: C'mon with you! Shallow or deep or wise or stupid, THIS > IS FACT.I may be THAT, but THIS is LONELY, and I do not fully feel that > I am THAT, if I am writing this.....no matter what I say or how I try > to come off, until the time of no more 'me' and no more writing to > lists to kill time or communicate or explain, or whatever......I am > feeling alone...unenlightened.....needing....letting the Lord be my > Shepherd by a thousand different names and myths and metaphors. Excuse > the lengthy post, but I was in need of communicating it and connecting > with whoever receives the communication. And if any soul says that this > is not the case for themselves as well......well delusion is another > important aspect of this world we live in and that's OK too. > Just some 'Sunday Morning Comin Down' thoughts and things. > > .........bob > Reminds me of my favourite episode of the Twilight Zone, the bookish reticent loner, having survived a nuclear disaster realizes he is the only one left and is thrilled when he passes a library with books upon books upon books to read, with no interference from work, phones, people, then he breaks his inch-thick reading glasses.. what was heaven? eh? Love to All, Ana There is ever only ONE seeking TWO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 14, 2006 Report Share Posted May 14, 2006 Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111 wrote: > > Suppose you realized enlightenment. I would say complete enlightenment > but that's silly. Of course it would be COMPLETE enlightenment. Like > pregnancy, you can't just have a LITTLE bit of it. It's here or it's > not. Period. Anyway, suppose this was so. You are THERE. Who could you > tell about it? Members on a non-duality list. Ha ha ha ! C'mon. > Suppose you won the PowerBall!...$500,000,000.!!!!! and that NOW of all > times, God/the Universe/ The All/ Self...whatever....played a real neat > trick on you and sucked everybody else out of 'your' world and left you > alone with absolutely no one to tell the great news to. How happy would > you be with your newly aquired half a billion bucks? No one to show how > super wealthy and cool you now were, now that " all your troubles' were > gone? Ha ha ha! Well even if that dirty trick wasn't in the offing, > after you told everyone then left them behind or not, my bet is, within > a short period of time, the thrill would be gone(Thank you Riley[better > known as B.B.]King). Without 'others', at least while stuck here in > duality, what the hell would anything mean? No matter what you gained > or what you lost or how happy you were or how heartbroken you > felt...and there was NO ONE HERE to tell...would you laugh, cry..what? > Whereas it may be that there are no souls and never have been etc., > unless and until, you have no need of communicating, if that was your > experience for real, and not just something to write and try to impress > others with your 'achievement', LONELINESS prevails. Not that that > would be new. Loneliness IS. IT is the driving force. We desire to > connect. After all the actualizing, realizing, gaining of degrees and > financial success, and achievement and and 'findings of truth and > meaning'.........We are still lonely. Why? I don't know. But if it were > not so, and if any one of us here were to really NOT be lonely.....why > are we here posting back and forth? No choice? Observing only? Thoughts > come and go but you 'THE GROUND' remain unmoved and ALL THAT CRAP. As I > said earlier: C'mon with you! Shallow or deep or wise or stupid, THIS > IS FACT.I may be THAT, but THIS is LONELY, and I do not fully feel that > I am THAT, if I am writing this.....no matter what I say or how I try > to come off, until the time of no more 'me' and no more writing to > lists to kill time or communicate or explain, or whatever......I am > feeling alone...unenlightened.....needing....letting the Lord be my > Shepherd by a thousand different names and myths and metaphors. Excuse > the lengthy post, but I was in need of communicating it and connecting > with whoever receives the communication. And if any soul says that this > is not the case for themselves as well......well delusion is another > important aspect of this world we live in and that's OK too. > Just some 'Sunday Morning Comin Down' thoughts and things. > > .........bob > Next sunday morning....I want you to stand up in church.....and read this.......and I want you to report back to us what happened. Ok? toombaru Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 14, 2006 Report Share Posted May 14, 2006 Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> > wrote: > > > > Suppose you realized enlightenment. I would say complete enlightenment > > but that's silly. Of course it would be COMPLETE enlightenment. Like > > pregnancy, you can't just have a LITTLE bit of it. It's here or it's > > not. Period. Anyway, suppose this was so. You are THERE. Who could you > > tell about it? Members on a non-duality list. Ha ha ha ! C'mon. > > Suppose you won the PowerBall!...$500,000,000.!!!!! and that NOW of all > > times, God/the Universe/ The All/ Self...whatever....played a real neat > > trick on you and sucked everybody else out of 'your' world and left you > > alone with absolutely no one to tell the great news to. How happy would > > you be with your newly aquired half a billion bucks? No one to show how > > super wealthy and cool you now were, now that " all your troubles' were > > gone? Ha ha ha! Well even if that dirty trick wasn't in the offing, > > after you told everyone then left them behind or not, my bet is, within > > a short period of time, the thrill would be gone(Thank you Riley [better > > known as B.B.]King). Without 'others', at least while stuck here in > > duality, what the hell would anything mean? No matter what you gained > > or what you lost or how happy you were or how heartbroken you > > felt...and there was NO ONE HERE to tell...would you laugh, cry..what? > > Whereas it may be that there are no souls and never have been etc., > > unless and until, you have no need of communicating, if that was your > > experience for real, and not just something to write and try to impress > > others with your 'achievement', LONELINESS prevails. Not that that > > would be new. Loneliness IS. IT is the driving force. We desire to > > connect. After all the actualizing, realizing, gaining of degrees and > > financial success, and achievement and and 'findings of truth and > > meaning'.........We are still lonely. Why? I don't know. But if it were > > not so, and if any one of us here were to really NOT be lonely.....why > > are we here posting back and forth? No choice? Observing only? Thoughts > > come and go but you 'THE GROUND' remain unmoved and ALL THAT CRAP. As I > > said earlier: C'mon with you! Shallow or deep or wise or stupid, THIS > > IS FACT.I may be THAT, but THIS is LONELY, and I do not fully feel that > > I am THAT, if I am writing this.....no matter what I say or how I try > > to come off, until the time of no more 'me' and no more writing to > > lists to kill time or communicate or explain, or whatever......I am > > feeling alone...unenlightened.....needing....letting the Lord be my > > Shepherd by a thousand different names and myths and metaphors. Excuse > > the lengthy post, but I was in need of communicating it and connecting > > with whoever receives the communication. And if any soul says that this > > is not the case for themselves as well......well delusion is another > > important aspect of this world we live in and that's OK too. > > Just some 'Sunday Morning Comin Down' thoughts and things. > > > > .........bob > > > > > > > Next sunday morning....I want you to stand up in church.....and read > this.......and I want you to report back to us what happened. > > > > Ok? > > > > toombaru and what church might THAT be toom? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 15, 2006 Report Share Posted May 15, 2006 Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> > wrote: > > > > Bob - > > > > I get what you're saying -- I'd put it a bit differently: > > > > It seems to me that it needn't be that we're looking for a > > connection -- more that we're expressing what already is the case: > > > > a " connection " so seamless that there aren't separated beings > > requiring connection or being connected. > > > > Words and thinking don't necessarily give the " gestalt " of what's > > going on here - " reading between the lines " does. We are free to > > exchage words, even while recogizing the seamless totality involved > > with all our expressions. > > > > my 2c -- > > > > -- Dan > > > > (nnb) > > > Hi again Dan. Good enough. I think we are using different words and > possibly nuances of meaning, but that at the nitty-gritty, we are in > complete accord. As you have said here, it's between the lines that > we meet(and where we are already in wholeness). Good stuff my friend. > > ..........bob Cool, Bob. Between the lines will be always between the lines - no need even to call that Tao. -- D. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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