Guest guest Posted May 14, 2006 Report Share Posted May 14, 2006 --- Pedsie2 wrote: > Things are what they are. Philosophy will never dull their edge. > Hunger and rice, rocks and hurts, kisses and blows, pleasure and pain > will always be the same. Your words, and their meanings are in vain. > You could be free, free from meanings and words. You could stand > naked in the mystery, divested of beliefs, silent, mute like a beast. > It's not things that tie you down, your chains are words, and you > pretend to understand, and sort, an analyze, and classify your words, > yet never stop, no never stop talking because you love them, and like > a verbal hog, you wallow in your words. > > Pete From the Pali Canon ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Samyutta Nikaya XII.15 Kaccayanagotta Sutta To Kaccayana Gotta (on Right View) Translated from the Pali by Thanissaro Bhikkhu. Dwelling at Savatthi... Then Ven. Kaccayana Gotta approached the Blessed One and, on arrival, having bowed down, sat to one side. As he was sitting there he said to the Blessed One: " Lord, 'Right view, right view,' it is said. To what extent is there right view? " " By & large, Kaccayana, this world is supported by (takes as its object) a polarity, that of existence & non-existence. But when one sees the origination of the world as it actually is with right discernment, 'non-existence' with reference to the world does not occur to one. When one sees the cessation of the world as it actually is with right discernment, 'existence' with reference to the world does not occur to one. " By & large, Kaccayana, this world is in bondage to attachments, clingings (sustenances), & biases. But one such as this does not get involved with or cling to these attachments, clingings, fixations of awareness, biases, or obsessions; nor is he resolved on 'my self.' He has no uncertainty or doubt that just stress, when arising, is arising; stress, when passing away, is passing away. In this, his knowledge is independent of others. It's to this extent, Kaccayana, that there is right view. " 'Everything exists': That is one extreme. 'Everything doesn't exist': That is a second extreme. " From becoming as a requisite condition comes birth... " From clinging/sustenance as a requisite condition comes becoming... " From craving as a requisite condition comes clinging/sustenance... " From feeling as a requisite condition comes craving... " From contact as a requisite condition comes feeling... " From the six sense media as a requisite condition comes contact... " From name- & -form as a requisite condition come the six sense media... " From consciousness as a requisite condition comes name- & -form... " From fabrications as a requisite condition comes consciousness... " From ignorance as a requisite condition come fabrications. Whether or not there is the arising of Tathagatas, this property stands -- this regularity of the Dhamma, this orderliness of the Dhamma, this this/that conditionality. The Tathagata directly awakens to that, breaks through to that. Directly awakening & breaking through to that, he declares it, teaches it, describes it, sets it forth. He reveals it, explains it, makes it plain, & says, 'Look.' From ignorance as a requisite condition come fabrications. What's there in this way is a reality, not an unreality, not other than what it seems, conditioned by this/that. This is called dependent co-arising. " And what are dependently co-arisen phenomena? Aging & death are dependently co-arisen phenomena: inconstant, compounded, dependently co-arisen, subject to ending, subject to passing away, subject to fading, subject to cessation. " Birth is a dependently co-arisen phenomenon... " Becoming is a dependently co-arisen phenomenon... " Clinging/sustenance is a dependently co-arisen phenomenon... " Craving is a dependently co-arisen phenomenon... " Feeling is a dependently co-arisen phenomenon... " Contact is a dependently co-arisen phenomenon... " The six sense media are dependently co-arisen phenomena... " Name- & -form is a dependently co-arisen phenomenon... " Consciousness is a dependently co-arisen phenomenon... " Fabrications are dependently co-arisen phenomena... " Ignorance is a dependently co-arisen phenomenon: inconstant, compounded, dependently co-arisen, subject to ending, subject to passing away, subject to fading, subject to cessation. These are called dependently co-arisen phenomena. " When a disciple of the noble ones has seen well with right discernment this dependent co-arising & these dependently co-arisen phenomena as they are actually present, it is not possible that he would run after the past, thinking, 'Was I in the past? Was I not in the past? What was I in the past? How was I in the past? Having been what, what was I in the past?' or that he would run after the future, thinking, 'Shall I be in the future? Shall I not be in the future? What shall I be in the future? How shall I be in the future? Having been what, what shall I be in the future?' or that he would be inwardly perplexed about the immediate present, thinking, 'Am I? Am I not? What am I? How am I? Where has this being come from? Where is it bound?' Such a thing is not possible. Why is that? Because the disciple of the noble ones has seen well with right discernment this dependent co-arising & these dependently co-arisen phenomena as they are actually present. " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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