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Jesus is Not All-Powerful, and Not All-Knowing:

 

Christians and Muslims agree that God is all-powerful and all-knowing. The

Gospels show that Jesus was not all-powerful, and not all-knowing, since he had

some limitations.

 

Mark tells us in his gospel that Jesus was unable to do any powerful work in

his hometown except few things: “He could not do any miracles there, except lay

his hands on a few sick people and heal them.” (Mark 6:5). Mark also tells us

that when Jesus tried to heal a certain blind man, the man was not healed after

the first attempt, and Jesus had to try a second time (see Mark 8:22-26).

 

Therefore, although we hold a great love and respect for Jesus, we need to

understand that he is not the all-powerful God.

 

Mark’s Gospel also reveals that Jesus had limitations in his knowledge. In

Mark 13:32, Jesus declared that he himself does not know when the last day will

occur, but the Father alone knows that (see also Matthew 24:36).

 

Therefore, Jesus could not have been the all-knowing God. Some will say that

Jesus knew when the last day will occur, but he chose not to tell. But that

complicates matters further. Jesus could have said that he knows but he does

not wish to tell. Instead, he said that he does not know. We must believe him.

Jesus does not lie at all.

 

The Gospel of Luke also reveals that Jesus had limited knowledge. Luke says

that Jesus increased in wisdom (Luke 2:52). In Hebrews too (Hebrews 5:8) we

read that Jesus learned obedience. But God’s knowledge and wisdom is always

perfect, and God does not learn new things. He knows everything always. So, if

Jesus learned something new, that proves that he did not know everything before

that, and thus he was not God.

 

Another example for the limited knowledge of Jesus is the fig tree episode in

the Gospels. Mark tells us as follows: “The next day as they were leaving

Bethany, Jesus was hungry. Seeing in the distance a fig tree in leaf, he went

to find out if it had any fruit. When he reached it, he found nothing but

leaves, because it was not the season for figs.” (Mark 11:12-13).

 

It is clear from these verses that the knowledge of Jesus was limited on two

counts. First, he did not know that the tree had no fruit until he came to it.

Second, he did not know that it was not the right season to expect figs on

trees.

Can he become God later? No! Because there is only one God, and He is God

from everlasting to everlasting (see Psalms 90:2).

 

Someone may say that Jesus was God but he took the form of a servant and

therefore became limited. Well, that would mean that God changed. But God does

not change. God said so according to Malachi 3:6.

 

Jesus never was God, and never will be. In the Bible, God declares: “Before

me no god was formed, nor will there be one after me.” (Isaiah 43:10).

The Bible clearly shows that Jesus was not all-powerful and all-knowing as the

true God should be.

The Greatest Commandment in the Bible and the Quran: Some will say that this

whole discussion over the divinity of Jesus is unnecessary. They say, the

important thing is to accept Jesus as your personal savior. On the contrary,

the Bible’s writers stressed that, in order to be saved, it is necessary to

understand who exactly is God. Failure to understand this would be to violate

the first and greatest of all the commandments in the Bible. This commandment

was emphasized by Jesus, on whom be peace, when a teacher of the Law of Moses

asked him: “‘Of all the commandments, which is the most important?’ ‘The most

important one,’ answered Jesus, ‘is this: Hear, O Israel, the Lord our God, the

Lord is one. Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul

and with all your mind and with all your strength.’” (Mark 12:28-30).

Notice that Jesus was quoting the first commandment from the book of

Deuteronomy 6:4-5. Jesus confirmed not only that this commandment is still

valid, but also that it is the most important of all the commandments. If Jesus

thought that he himself is God, why did not he say so? Instead, he stressed

that God is one. The man who questioned Jesus understood this, and what the man

says next makes it clear that God is not Jesus, for he said to Jesus: “‘Well

said, teacher,’ the man replied. ‘You are right in saying that God is one and

there is no other but him.’” (Mark 12:32).

Now if Jesus was God, he would have told the man so. Instead, he let the man

refer to God as someone other than Jesus, and he even saw that the man had

spoken wisely: “When Jesus saw that he had answered wisely, he said to him, ‘You

are not far from the kingdom of God.’” (Mark 12:34). If Jesus knew that God is

a trinity, why did not he say so? Why did not he say that God is one in three,

or three in one? Instead, he declared that God is one. True imitators of Jesus

will imitate him also in this declaration of God’s oneness. They will not add

the word three where Jesus never said it.

Does salvation depend on this commandment? Yes, says the Bible! Jesus made

this clear when another man approached Jesus to learn from him (see Mark

10:17-29). The man fell on his knees and said to Jesus: “Good teacher, what

must I do to inherit eternal life?” Jesus replied: “Why do you call me good?

No one is good — except God alone.” (Mark 10:17-18).

By so saying, Jesus made a clear distinction between himself and God. Then he

proceeded with the answer to the man’s question about how to get salvation.

Jesus told him: “If you want to enter life, obey the commandments.” (Matthew

19:17, also see Mark 10:19).

Remember that the most important of all the commandments, according to Jesus,

is to know God as the only God. Jesus further emphasized this in the Gospel

According to John. In John 17:1, Jesus lifted his eyes to heaven and prayed,

addressing God as Father. Then in verse three, he said to God as follows: “Now

this is eternal life: that they may know you, the only true God, and Jesus

Christ, whom you have sent.” (John 17:3).

This proves beyond doubt that if people want to get eternal life they must

know that the One, whom Jesus was praying to, is the only true God, and they

must know that Jesus was sent by the true God. Some say that the Father is God,

the Son is God, and the Holy Ghost is God. But Jesus said that the Father alone

is the only true God. True followers of Jesus will follow him in this too.

Jesus had said that his true followers are those who hold to his teachings. He

said: “If you hold to my teaching, you are really my disciples.” (John 8:31).

His teaching is that people must continue to keep the commandments, especially

the first commandment which emphasizes that God is alone, and that God should be

loved with all our hearts and all our strengths.

We love Jesus, but we must not love him as God. Today many love Jesus more

than they love God. This is because they see God as a vengeful person who

wanted to exact a penalty from them, and they see Jesus as the savior who

rescued them from the wrath of God. Yet God is our only savior. According to

Isaiah 43:11, God said: “I, even I, am the LORD, and apart from me there is no

savior.” Also God said according to Isaiah 45:21-22: “Was it not I, the LORD?

And there is no God apart from me, a righteous God and a Savior; there is none

but me. Turn to me and be saved, all you ends of the earth; for I am God, and

there is no other.”

The Quran confirms the first commandment and addresses it to all humankind

(see the Holy Quran 2:163). And God declares that true believers love Him more

than anyone else or anything else (Quran 2:165).

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> Jesus is Not All-Powerful, and Not All-Knowing:

>

> Christians and Muslims agree that God is all-powerful and all-

knowing. The Gospels show that Jesus was not all-powerful, and not

all-knowing, since he had some limitations.

>

> Mark tells us in his gospel that Jesus was unable to do any

powerful work in his hometown except few things: " He could not do any

miracles there, except lay his hands on a few sick people and heal

them. " (Mark 6:5). Mark also tells us that when Jesus tried to heal

a certain blind man, the man was not healed after the first attempt,

and Jesus had to try a second time (see Mark 8:22-26).

>

> Therefore, although we hold a great love and respect for Jesus,

we need to understand that he is not the all-powerful God.

>

> Mark's Gospel also reveals that Jesus had limitations in his

knowledge. In Mark 13:32, Jesus declared that he himself does not

know when the last day will occur, but the Father alone knows that

(see also Matthew 24:36).

>

> Therefore, Jesus could not have been the all-knowing God. Some

will say that Jesus knew when the last day will occur, but he chose

not to tell. But that complicates matters further. Jesus could have

said that he knows but he does not wish to tell. Instead, he said

that he does not know. We must believe him. Jesus does not lie at

all.

>

> The Gospel of Luke also reveals that Jesus had limited

knowledge. Luke says that Jesus increased in wisdom (Luke 2:52). In

Hebrews too (Hebrews 5:8) we read that Jesus learned obedience. But

God's knowledge and wisdom is always perfect, and God does not learn

new things. He knows everything always. So, if Jesus learned

something new, that proves that he did not know everything before

that, and thus he was not God.

>

> Another example for the limited knowledge of Jesus is the fig

tree episode in the Gospels. Mark tells us as follows: " The next day

as they were leaving Bethany, Jesus was hungry. Seeing in the

distance a fig tree in leaf, he went to find out if it had any

fruit. When he reached it, he found nothing but leaves, because it

was not the season for figs. " (Mark 11:12-13).

>

> It is clear from these verses that the knowledge of Jesus was

limited on two counts. First, he did not know that the tree had no

fruit until he came to it. Second, he did not know that it was not

the right season to expect figs on trees.

> Can he become God later? No! Because there is only one God, and

He is God from everlasting to everlasting (see Psalms 90:2).

>

> Someone may say that Jesus was God but he took the form of a

servant and therefore became limited. Well, that would mean that God

changed. But God does not change. God said so according to Malachi

3:6.

>

> Jesus never was God, and never will be. In the Bible, God

declares: " Before me no god was formed, nor will there be one after

me. " (Isaiah 43:10).

> The Bible clearly shows that Jesus was not all-powerful and all-

knowing as the true God should be.

> The Greatest Commandment in the Bible and the Quran: Some will

say that this whole discussion over the divinity of Jesus is

unnecessary. They say, the important thing is to accept Jesus as

your personal savior. On the contrary, the Bible's writers stressed

that, in order to be saved, it is necessary to understand who exactly

is God. Failure to understand this would be to violate the first and

greatest of all the commandments in the Bible. This commandment was

emphasized by Jesus, on whom be peace, when a teacher of the Law of

Moses asked him: " `Of all the commandments, which is the most

important?' `The most important one,' answered Jesus, `is this:

Hear, O Israel, the Lord our God, the Lord is one. Love the Lord

your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your

mind and with all your strength.' " (Mark 12:28-30).

> Notice that Jesus was quoting the first commandment from the book

of Deuteronomy 6:4-5. Jesus confirmed not only that this commandment

is still valid, but also that it is the most important of all the

commandments. If Jesus thought that he himself is God, why did not

he say so? Instead, he stressed that God is one. The man who

questioned Jesus understood this, and what the man says next makes it

clear that God is not Jesus, for he said to Jesus: " `Well said,

teacher,' the man replied. `You are right in saying that God is one

and there is no other but him.' " (Mark 12:32).

> Now if Jesus was God, he would have told the man so. Instead, he

let the man refer to God as someone other than Jesus, and he even saw

that the man had spoken wisely: " When Jesus saw that he had answered

wisely, he said to him, `You are not far from the kingdom of God.' "

(Mark 12:34). If Jesus knew that God is a trinity, why did not he

say so? Why did not he say that God is one in three, or three in

one? Instead, he declared that God is one. True imitators of Jesus

will imitate him also in this declaration of God's oneness. They

will not add the word three where Jesus never said it.

> Does salvation depend on this commandment? Yes, says the Bible!

Jesus made this clear when another man approached Jesus to learn from

him (see Mark 10:17-29). The man fell on his knees and said to

Jesus: " Good teacher, what must I do to inherit eternal life? " Jesus

replied: " Why do you call me good? No one is good — except God

alone. " (Mark 10:17-18).

> By so saying, Jesus made a clear distinction between himself and

God. Then he proceeded with the answer to the man's question about

how to get salvation. Jesus told him: " If you want to enter life,

obey the commandments. " (Matthew 19:17, also see Mark 10:19).

> Remember that the most important of all the commandments,

according to Jesus, is to know God as the only God. Jesus further

emphasized this in the Gospel According to John. In John 17:1, Jesus

lifted his eyes to heaven and prayed, addressing God as Father. Then

in verse three, he said to God as follows: " Now this is eternal life:

that they may know you, the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom you

have sent. " (John 17:3).

> This proves beyond doubt that if people want to get eternal life

they must know that the One, whom Jesus was praying to, is the only

true God, and they must know that Jesus was sent by the true God.

Some say that the Father is God, the Son is God, and the Holy Ghost

is God. But Jesus said that the Father alone is the only true God.

True followers of Jesus will follow him in this too. Jesus had said

that his true followers are those who hold to his teachings. He

said: " If you hold to my teaching, you are really my disciples. "

(John 8:31). His teaching is that people must continue to keep the

commandments, especially the first commandment which emphasizes that

God is alone, and that God should be loved with all our hearts and

all our strengths.

> We love Jesus, but we must not love him as God. Today many love

Jesus more than they love God. This is because they see God as a

vengeful person who wanted to exact a penalty from them, and they see

Jesus as the savior who rescued them from the wrath of God. Yet God

is our only savior. According to Isaiah 43:11, God said: " I, even I,

am the LORD, and apart from me there is no savior. " Also God said

according to Isaiah 45:21-22: " Was it not I, the LORD? And there is

no God apart from me, a righteous God and a Savior; there is none but

me. Turn to me and be saved, all you ends of the earth; for I am

God, and there is no other. "

> The Quran confirms the first commandment and addresses it to all

humankind (see the Holy Quran 2:163). And God declares that true

believers love Him more than anyone else or anything else (Quran

2:165).

 

 

Yes the Bible and it's writers both new and old Testaments,, the

Koran, The Muslims and you tell us all a lot about Jesus. The

Headlines and History tell me one Hell of a lot more about that

Mohammed(may whatever he puts upon us be put upon him) fellow and his

more rabid followers ......funny that. Any of the Organized Religions

can be, and most often are FULL OF SHIT. Myths and the heros found

therein are as much deceivers as enlighteners, and more often binders

to slavery than freers of souls.

.........bob

 

 

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