Guest guest Posted May 15, 2006 Report Share Posted May 15, 2006 L.E: Some times we learn about ourselves from ourselves, and some times we learn about ourselves from others. Eventually, we learn there are no others, and the problem of separation disappears. Larry Epston Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 15, 2006 Report Share Posted May 15, 2006 Nisargadatta , epston wrote: > > L.E: Some times we learn about ourselves from ourselves, and some times we > learn about ourselves from others. > Eventually, we learn there are no others, and the problem of separation > disappears. > > Larry Epston > > there is only learning about/from our-Self..... there is nothing but Self Marc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 15, 2006 Report Share Posted May 15, 2006 On 5/15/06, dennis_travis33 <dennis_travis33 wrote: > Nisargadatta , epston wrote: > > > > L.E: Some times we learn about ourselves from ourselves, and some > times we > > learn about ourselves from others. > > Eventually, we learn there are no others, and the problem of > separation > > disappears. > > > > Larry Epston > > > > > there is only learning about/from our-Self..... > > there is nothing but Self > > Marc > are you correcting what Larry said, expanding on what Larry said, or just saying what Larry said in a different way? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 15, 2006 Report Share Posted May 15, 2006 Nisargadatta , " Bill Rishel " <illusyn wrote: > > On 5/15/06, dennis_travis33 <dennis_travis33 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , epston@ wrote: > > > > > > L.E: Some times we learn about ourselves from ourselves, and some > > times we > > > learn about ourselves from others. > > > Eventually, we learn there are no others, and the problem of > > separation > > > disappears. > > > > > > Larry Epston > > > > > > > > there is only learning about/from our-Self..... > > > > there is nothing but Self > > > > Marc > > > > are you correcting what Larry said, > expanding on what Larry said, > or just saying what Larry said in a different way? nothing has ever been said, by no one or anyone or even 'THE ONE'. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 15, 2006 Report Share Posted May 15, 2006 Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " Bill Rishel " <illusyn@> > wrote: > > > > On 5/15/06, dennis_travis33 <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > Nisargadatta , epston@ wrote: > > > > > > > > L.E: Some times we learn about ourselves from ourselves, and > some > > > times we > > > > learn about ourselves from others. > > > > Eventually, we learn there are no others, and the problem of > > > separation > > > > disappears. > > > > > > > > Larry Epston > > > > > > > > > > > there is only learning about/from our-Self..... > > > > > > there is nothing but Self > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > are you correcting what Larry said, > > expanding on what Larry said, > > or just saying what Larry said in a different way? > > > nothing has ever been said, by no one or anyone or even 'THE ONE'. > I am interested in Marc's response to my questions nevertheless. As for what you have said, Bob, I wonder why you would say that. Because it is, quite simply, " the way it is " ? What you say there seems exclusive, to me, not inclusive. Do you see what I mean? Bill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 15, 2006 Report Share Posted May 15, 2006 Nisargadatta , " pliantheart " <illusyn wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> > wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " Bill Rishel " <illusyn@> > > wrote: > > > > > > On 5/15/06, dennis_travis33 <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , epston@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > L.E: Some times we learn about ourselves from ourselves, and > > some > > > > times we > > > > > learn about ourselves from others. > > > > > Eventually, we learn there are no others, and the problem of > > > > separation > > > > > disappears. > > > > > > > > > > Larry Epston > > > > > > > > > > > > > > there is only learning about/from our-Self..... > > > > > > > > there is nothing but Self > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > > are you correcting what Larry said, > > > expanding on what Larry said, > > > or just saying what Larry said in a different way? > > > > > > nothing has ever been said, by no one or anyone or even 'THE ONE'. > > > > I am interested in Marc's response to my questions > nevertheless. > > As for what you have said, Bob, I wonder why you would > say that. Because it is, quite simply, " the way it is " ? > > What you say there seems exclusive, to me, not inclusive. > Do you see what I mean? > > Bill It's just a 'zenny' thing to say. It's actually meant to be All inclusive in that all 'things' that we can speak( including that statement), and our 'selves', are in 'reality'(whatever that is), without substance. Even our idea of the 'One " is just that....an idea. I do see what you mean, and again it's the 'words' that get in the way I guess. I really don't know what that Substance IS, in it's own nature(for lack of a better term), or even WHY. And these too may just be meaningless terms. I don't know. As you have said,using different words and expressional formats, whatever Ground Zero is about, until we are there, we don't know. And Bill, honestly, I have had several and sundry " moments of Awakeness' but I really can't put those into word formulations even for my self(whatever THAT is). I'm not kidding when I say that I don't know what I'm saying. I don't. But it's the 'Truth' for me as close as I can get to it using the tools we have. I guess like your poetry, the actual 'meaning' lays somewhere outside of the words employed and can only be intuited at best. Hope this makes somewhat clearer what was meant as a statement of the Ineffable, most certainly not meant as exclusive in any sense of the word. And please don't take this or the earlier post as correctives. They are not meant to be. They are meant more to be additives than detractors. I may disagree at times with some statements, but I am here(the list and the world in general), to learn, contribute, hopefully to communicate and share and that's it. Sometimes as you know, it can get heated. And sometimes I can sink to levels of depression and anger that are good for no one. But as much as possible, when I sense that coming now, I try to depart from comment. Best I can do. Best I can answer. .....bob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 16, 2006 Report Share Posted May 16, 2006 Nisargadatta , " Bill Rishel " <illusyn wrote: > > On 5/15/06, dennis_travis33 <dennis_travis33 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , epston@ wrote: > > > > > > L.E: Some times we learn about ourselves from ourselves, and some > > times we > > > learn about ourselves from others. > > > Eventually, we learn there are no others, and the problem of > > separation > > > disappears. > > > > > > Larry Epston > > > > > > > > there is only learning about/from our-Self..... > > > > there is nothing but Self > > > > Marc > > > > are you correcting what Larry said, > expanding on what Larry said, > or just saying what Larry said in a different way? it's about same what Larry said....only in little different way " whoever " appear to say something.....the one " who " listen to him/herSelf so.....is learning...... there could be learning even from a flower....a tree.....a mountain.....a fish..... Marc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 16, 2006 Report Share Posted May 16, 2006 Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " Bill Rishel " <illusyn@> > wrote: > > > > On 5/15/06, dennis_travis33 <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > Nisargadatta , epston@ wrote: > > > > > > > > L.E: Some times we learn about ourselves from ourselves, and > some > > > times we > > > > learn about ourselves from others. > > > > Eventually, we learn there are no others, and the problem of > > > separation > > > > disappears. > > > > > > > > Larry Epston > > > > > > > > > > > there is only learning about/from our-Self..... > > > > > > there is nothing but Self > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > are you correcting what Larry said, > > expanding on what Larry said, > > or just saying what Larry said in a different way? > > > nothing has ever been said, by no one or anyone or even 'THE ONE'. yes.... in awareness of the dream.... Marc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 16, 2006 Report Share Posted May 16, 2006 Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " <dennis_travis33 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " Bill Rishel " <illusyn@> > wrote: > > > > On 5/15/06, dennis_travis33 <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > Nisargadatta , epston@ wrote: > > > > > > > > L.E: Some times we learn about ourselves from ourselves, and > some > > > times we > > > > learn about ourselves from others. > > > > Eventually, we learn there are no others, and the problem of > > > separation > > > > disappears. > > > > > > > > Larry Epston > > > > > > > > > > > there is only learning about/from our-Self..... > > > > > > there is nothing but Self > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > are you correcting what Larry said, > > expanding on what Larry said, > > or just saying what Larry said in a different way? > > > it's about same what Larry said....only in little different way > > " whoever " appear to say something.....the one " who " listen to > him/herSelf so.....is learning...... > there could be learning even from a flower....a tree.....a > mountain.....a fish..... > > Marc > and how much clearer this you now speak! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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