Guest guest Posted May 15, 2006 Report Share Posted May 15, 2006 > > In the " now " experience there are no " real objects, " just sensation > > > flows. A real object, " computer screen, " is a concept, a stand in for > > > sensation flow and is a thought. If such a thought occurrs while > > > experiencing the sensation flow, there will be interruption of it and > > > the flow and time and space will appear, an ego mediated experience. > > > > > > Does this mean that we do not need concepts? No. Learning concepts is > > > experience, one of millions of sensation flows, and there is no reason > > > not experience them. Once learned and stored in memory, they need > > > never appear again in the field of consciousness to interrupt > > > sensation flows. " What is " uses these as required to flow on. It is > > > the reification and substitution and attachment to concepts that > > > creates fragmented, disrupted experience. > > > > > > Lewis > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > Just a note on " sensation flow " . " Sensation flow " is just as much a > > concept as " computer screen. " There is no thing to it other than a > > analytic break up of ineffable experience (another concept) and the > > attempt to make ego take an analytical step towards " absolute > > futility " (ego thinks in terms of doing by means towards ends) while > > pointing to what is. > > > > Lewis > > I imagine that in sensation flow, the concept of 'now' is not really > needed. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ That is correct. There is no time concept necessary in " instantaneous, omni-directional sensation flows. " There has been no success in find a word that describes experience as it is. How could there be? However, because flow implies to some degree " movement from here to there, " it may be put in if desired. But it would wreck its temporary usefulness. For example, experience is instantaneous, it always is. It also is not " static " or rigid. What is continuous and the mind/brain to some degree is always on and so experience is not discontinuous and jerky as it is when ego mediates it. Human life is sensate and sensations can be described differentially in words by " quality quantity, direction, effect, duration and so on. " Duration and direction may indicate a place for time, setting up little ticks and so forth as the sensation flows from time x to time y from head to toe having this quality, quantity direction and effect. But in this way experience is being interrogated and conceptually fragmented so that it cannot be experienced as it is. Leave this to psychologist, neuroscientists, physiologists, etc. to explore. Those concepts can be retrieved and used to refine communication and exchange. Sensation flow is surely inadequate and it adds to the many concepts already floating around but its use in describing the formation of the sensations of discreteness, hardness and separation and time and space is far superior to the popular notion of " now. " It is a pointer that is closer to " what is " than using " now " as a pointer. Ego searching for enlightenment or freedom can catch itself quicker and dissolve itself quicker since experiencing " sensation flows " is easier to pay attention to than experiencing " now " a time concept that draws the past and the future around it by definition drawing ego's attention left and right. Sensation flows draws different issue (time) but allows greater awareness of ego's living out of touch with sensation because of the conceptual soup it favors. Lewis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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