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I realized that I 'play' with

meditation 'techniques' in pretty much

the same way as I play with Sex

techniques... [did that image " arouse "

your interest?]

 

 

So far my favorite meditations are

following:

 

- Vipassana*

 

< http://www.meditatie.ro/eosho.htm >

 

It makes me fall to sleep and I get

very deep and restful sleep after it. I

do it most nights as the last thing as

I fall to sleep.

 

- Witnessing**

 

< http://www.friendsofosho.com/Topics/Enlightenment%20 & %20Joke%201.htm >

 

I don't " do " it but, many times, it

happens on its own.

 

Sometimes, it happens when looking at

a child, a bird, a flower, a person

or... just looking into the emptiness

with no 'object' to " LOOK AT " ...

 

Sometimes, it happens while sitting in

meetings, listening to conversations...

 

Some times, it happens while reading

something...

 

Some times, it happens when reading

someone like Papaji, Ramana, Osho,

Adya, Katie, Niz, Tolle...

 

Some time, it happens while " thinking " ....

 

Many times, it happens while reading

someone of the Internet groups like this..

 

Sometimes, it happens while writing

something...

 

Sometimes, it happens when looking at

a picture of Ramana...

 

 

 

As if my heart has suddenly 'melted', 'lighted'...

gotten warm All Over...

 

 

As if... there is just Blissful

Formless Awareness...

 

one that has no center, no

circumference, no limit and no

identification...

 

 

As if it is just the formless Light of

Love... submerging all...

 

As if ...all is... this Love...

 

 

As is there is no " all " ...

....only Love...

 

 

 

---

 

 

* The breath goes out, watch; the

breath comes in, watch. You will become

aware: the breath touching your

nostrils at one point, you will become

aware. You can concentrate there: the

breath comes in, you feel the touch of

the breath on the nostrils; then it

goes out, you feel the touch again.

Remain there at the tip of the nose. It

is not that you have to concentrate at

the tip of the nose; you have just to

be alert, aware, watchful.

...

But as Vipassana moved from India to

Tibet to China to Korea to Burma to

Japan, slowly, slowly people became

aware that it is easier to watch in the

belly than at the nose. Then Buddha-

statues started becoming different,

with bigger bellies.

You can watch either at the belly or

at the nose, whichever feels right for

you or whichever feels easier for you.

That it be easier is the point. And

just watching the breath, miracles

happen.

 

 

 

** Only the witness is there, but

nothing to witness, just nothingness

all around. You have come to the witness.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Nisargadatta , Adithya K <adithya_comming

wrote:

>

>

>

> I realized that I 'play' with

> meditation 'techniques' in pretty much

> the same way as I play with Sex

> techniques... [did that image " arouse "

> your interest?]

>

>

> So far my favorite meditations are

> following:

>

> - Vipassana*

>

> < http://www.meditatie.ro/eosho.htm >

>

> It makes me fall to sleep and I get

> very deep and restful sleep after it. I

> do it most nights as the last thing as

> I fall to sleep.

>

> - Witnessing**

>

> < http://www.friendsofosho.com/Topics/Enlightenment%20 & %20Joke%

201.htm >

>

> I don't " do " it but, many times, it

> happens on its own.

>

> Sometimes, it happens when looking at

> a child, a bird, a flower, a person

> or... just looking into the emptiness

> with no 'object' to " LOOK AT " ...

>

> Sometimes, it happens while sitting in

> meetings, listening to conversations...

>

> Some times, it happens while reading

> something...

>

> Some times, it happens when reading

> someone like Papaji, Ramana, Osho,

> Adya, Katie, Niz, Tolle...

>

> Some time, it happens while " thinking " ....

>

> Many times, it happens while reading

> someone of the Internet groups like this..

>

> Sometimes, it happens while writing

> something...

>

> Sometimes, it happens when looking at

> a picture of Ramana...

 

 

....

 

 

Many times, when I look at a picture

of Ramana...

 

something quite strange and unexpected

happens...

 

something that I feel somewhat

*embarrassed* to 'admit'...

 

as it might sound 'girly', 'childish',

and 'romantic' or... immature...

 

 

I " feel " a 'transformation' taking

place...

 

and, I feel as if it is 'I' that I am

looking at!

 

 

I feel as if I am looking through

these eyes...

 

smiling through the heart...

 

 

as if I am looking at... 'my-self'!

 

 

I feel as if I AM... this Heart, this

'living presence'...

 

I am this Love...

 

 

Ramana disappears...

 

but, so does separate [separate from

Ramana] 'I'...

 

 

had it happened for the first time,

there was a great chance that I could

have gotten 'confused' about it...

 

but, now my " good enough " , 'reasonable

enough' explanation is that it is a

simple result of high degree of

concentration in an otherwise 'empty'

Mind!

 

 

However, it does give me glimpse

into why many seers down the centuries

have found great affinity with the

images, pictures, statues or 'living

form' of their guru...

 

Why many might have claimed to " feel "

a 'connection' with Jesus, Mother God...

 

it also gives me some idea why many

like Amma, Nirmala Devi might feel

somewhat 'natural' to play the role of

a Krishna, Shiva...

 

it helps me understand meaning of

'unions' and 'living transmission'...

 

 

 

 

>

> As if my heart has suddenly 'melted', 'lighted'...

> gotten warm All Over...

>

>

> As if... there is just Blissful

> Formless Awareness...

>

> one that has no center, no

> circumference, no limit and no

> identification...

>

>

> As if it is just the formless Light of

> Love... submerging all...

>

> As if ...all is... this Love...

>

>

> As is there is no " all " ...

> ....only Love...

>

>

>

> ---

>

>

> * The breath goes out, watch; the

> breath comes in, watch. You will become

> aware: the breath touching your

> nostrils at one point, you will become

> aware. You can concentrate there: the

> breath comes in, you feel the touch of

> the breath on the nostrils; then it

> goes out, you feel the touch again.

> Remain there at the tip of the nose. It

> is not that you have to concentrate at

> the tip of the nose; you have just to

> be alert, aware, watchful.

> ...

> But as Vipassana moved from India to

> Tibet to China to Korea to Burma to

> Japan, slowly, slowly people became

> aware that it is easier to watch in the

> belly than at the nose. Then Buddha-

> statues started becoming different,

> with bigger bellies.

> You can watch either at the belly or

> at the nose, whichever feels right for

> you or whichever feels easier for you.

> That it be easier is the point. And

> just watching the breath, miracles

> happen.

>

>

>

> ** Only the witness is there, but

> nothing to witness, just nothingness

> all around. You have come to the witness.

>

>

>

 

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....

 

It was through 'uncaused' witnessing

that I had experienced my own

" disappearance " ...

 

....and, how I had become an 'integral'

Whole... in place of a fragment

'destined' to fight for its 'personal'

survival and growth...

 

whole moved though [what was previously] me...

 

whole acted through [what was previously] me...

 

the effort ceased...

 

the resistance ceased...

 

 

the 'distance' ceased...

 

the barrier broke...

 

the boundary broke...

 

and, something strange happened...

 

 

an ambulance passed through the road...

and, tears came into my eyes without

any known reason...

 

children played, giggle and danced

under the sunshine...

 

and, I 'waved' with joy without any

reason...

 

 

 

 

Someone became angry, violent, and

hateful and shouted...

 

and, the 'body' [known as mine] burnt!

 

 

 

as if with the 'barrier', 'boundary' gone...

 

my 'defense mechanism' too has melted Away...

 

as if I was just SPACE...

 

and, I had NO Choice but to

'experience' and " feel " whatever 'passes thru'...

 

 

with this 'shell' gone... I was not

just 'vulnerable'...

 

I was an Open SPACE through which

everything passed and with [separate]

'me' gone... I had no choice...

 

 

....

 

 

Sometimes, I also experienced 'anger'...

and, now this anger was really

'unrestricted', 'unconfined' and also

'uncontrolled'...

 

 

In one way, I was beginning to see the

'necessity', 'origin and 'root' of

'ego'... the 'controlling',

'discerning' mechanism...

 

I was beginning to see why human

beings are not just *natural*!

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--- adithya_comming <adithya_comming a

écrit :

 

 

 

....

 

It was through 'uncaused' witnessing

that I had experienced my own

" disappearance " ...

 

....and, how I had become an 'integral'

Whole... in place of a fragment

'destined' to fight for its 'personal'

survival and growth...

 

whole moved though [what was previously] me...

 

whole acted through [what was previously] me...

 

the effort ceased...

 

the resistance ceased...

 

 

the 'distance' ceased...

 

the barrier broke...

 

the boundary broke...

 

and, something strange happened...

 

 

an ambulance passed through the road...

and, tears came into my eyes without

any known reason...

 

children played, giggle and danced

under the sunshine...

 

and, I 'waved' with joy without any

reason...

 

 

 

 

Someone became angry, violent, and

hateful and shouted...

 

and, the 'body' [known as mine] burnt!

 

 

 

as if with the 'barrier', 'boundary' gone...

 

my 'defense mechanism' too has melted Away...

 

as if I was just SPACE...

 

and, I had NO Choice but to

'experience' and " feel " whatever 'passes thru'...

 

 

with this 'shell' gone... I was not

just 'vulnerable'...

 

I was an Open SPACE through which

everything passed and with [separate]

'me' gone... I had no choice...

 

 

....

 

 

Sometimes, I also experienced 'anger'...

and, now this anger was really

'unrestricted', 'unconfined' and also

'uncontrolled'...

 

 

In one way, I was beginning to see the

'necessity', 'origin and 'root' of

'ego'... the 'controlling',

'discerning' mechanism...

 

I was beginning to see why human

beings are not just *natural*!

 

 

so you are saying that ego is a necessary fonction to

control emotions?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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This was also the time some called

" me " ... 'enlightened'***...

 

yet, I had also seen that if I really

continued living 'this way'... my

'departure' would not just be...

'psychological'; it will be TOTAL...

 

and, I was beginning to see that this

was NOT 'socially predictable',

professionally 'responsible' or

[family] 'dependable' way to live...

 

it seemed, if I was to [socially] 'live'...

 

a 'personal' 'guide' was indeed

necessary... no matter how 'imaginary'

such a guide might be...

 

 

even if the dream was Broken...

 

now, I had to 'consciously' weave my

own 'dream'...

 

 

 

---

 

***Luckily, pretty soon I discovered

Ramana who among many other said things like:

 

- there is no realization event.

 

- if there was to be a 'beginning'

of realization; there has to be an

'end' too.

 

- What is Real is ALWAYS there. If

realization is something " new " , it can

not be REAL.

 

- Blank is the evil result of looking for mind.

 

 

- In place of 'meditating', just

abide as the meditator!

 

 

 

 

[ NNB ]

 

Nisargadatta , " adithya_comming "

<adithya_comming wrote:

>

> ...

>

> It was through 'uncaused' witnessing

> that I had experienced my own

> " disappearance " ...

>

> ...and, how I had become an 'integral'

> Whole... in place of a fragment

> 'destined' to fight for its 'personal'

> survival and growth...

>

> whole moved though [what was previously] me...

>

> whole acted through [what was previously] me...

>

> the effort ceased...

>

> the resistance ceased...

>

>

> the 'distance' ceased...

>

> the barrier broke...

>

> the boundary broke...

>

> and, something strange happened...

>

>

> an ambulance passed through the road...

> and, tears came into my eyes without

> any known reason...

>

> children played, giggle and danced

> under the sunshine...

>

> and, I 'waved' with joy without any

> reason...

>

>

>

>

> Someone became angry, violent, and

> hateful and shouted...

>

> and, the 'body' [known as mine] burnt!

>

>

>

> as if with the 'barrier', 'boundary' gone...

>

> my 'defense mechanism' too has melted Away...

>

> as if I was just SPACE...

>

> and, I had NO Choice but to

> 'experience' and " feel " whatever 'passes thru'...

>

>

> with this 'shell' gone... I was not

> just 'vulnerable'...

>

> I was an Open SPACE through which

> everything passed and with [separate]

> 'me' gone... I had no choice...

>

>

> ...

>

>

> Sometimes, I also experienced 'anger'...

> and, now this anger was really

> 'unrestricted', 'unconfined' and also

> 'uncontrolled'...

>

>

> In one way, I was beginning to see the

> 'necessity', 'origin and 'root' of

> 'ego'... the 'controlling',

> 'discerning' mechanism...

>

> I was beginning to see why human

> beings are not just *natural*!

>

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Nisargadatta , OConnor Patricia <gdtige

wrote:

>

>

> --- adithya_comming <adithya_comming a

> écrit :

>

>

>

> ...

>

> It was through 'uncaused' witnessing

> that I had experienced my own

> " disappearance " ...

>

> ...and, how I had become an 'integral'

> Whole... in place of a fragment

> 'destined' to fight for its 'personal'

> survival and growth...

>

> whole moved though [what was previously] me...

>

> whole acted through [what was previously] me...

>

> the effort ceased...

>

> the resistance ceased...

>

>

> the 'distance' ceased...

>

> the barrier broke...

>

> the boundary broke...

>

> and, something strange happened...

>

>

> an ambulance passed through the road...

> and, tears came into my eyes without

> any known reason...

>

> children played, giggle and danced

> under the sunshine...

>

> and, I 'waved' with joy without any

> reason...

>

>

>

>

> Someone became angry, violent, and

> hateful and shouted...

>

> and, the 'body' [known as mine] burnt!

>

>

>

> as if with the 'barrier', 'boundary' gone...

>

> my 'defense mechanism' too has melted Away...

>

> as if I was just SPACE...

>

> and, I had NO Choice but to

> 'experience' and " feel " whatever 'passes thru'...

>

>

> with this 'shell' gone... I was not

> just 'vulnerable'...

>

> I was an Open SPACE through which

> everything passed and with [separate]

> 'me' gone... I had no choice...

>

>

> ...

>

>

> Sometimes, I also experienced 'anger'...

> and, now this anger was really

> 'unrestricted', 'unconfined' and also

> 'uncontrolled'...

>

>

> In one way, I was beginning to see the

> 'necessity', 'origin and 'root' of

> 'ego'... the 'controlling',

> 'discerning' mechanism...

>

> I was beginning to see why human

> beings are not just *natural*!

>

>

> so you are saying that ego is a necessary fonction to

> control emotions?

 

 

 

Yes. This among many other things...

 

There is a 'response' that can

automatically arise and play based on

'intuition' yet, this response may not

always be in accordance with 'social

obedience', 'family responsibility' and

'professional benefit'! 'Intellect' is

one thing that attempts to 'guide' [and

in some cases, control] the feeling,

emotions, thought, action and response

in these situations.

 

I have experienced it many times in

very trivial, 'practical' situation

too...

 

I sense a strong sense of 'affinity'

with one of my female friend. Sometimes

I walk out for a coffee with her;

sometimes we drive together... sitting

very close to her sometimes I feel this

feeling so strong as if the air has

gotten thick...

 

I feel naturally inclined to touch

her, hug her, embrace her...

 

sometime, I fear that might actually

do it...

 

and, I feel it is only my 'intellect'

[discerning ego] that protects me from

doing so as doing that might be a

socially irresponsible behavior.

 

....

 

take you for example, Patricia...

 

Based on your exchanges, I feel that

if I was to meet you in person...

 

it would be only my 'ego' [discerning

intellect] that will protect you, me

and rest of the society from...'me

hugging you'...

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Nisargadatta , " adithya_comming "

<adithya_comming wrote:

>

> Nisargadatta , OConnor Patricia <gdtige@>

> wrote:

> >

> >

> > --- adithya_comming <adithya_comming@> a

> > écrit :

> >

> >

> >

> > ...

> >

> > It was through 'uncaused' witnessing

> > that I had experienced my own

> > " disappearance " ...

> >

> > ...and, how I had become an 'integral'

> > Whole... in place of a fragment

> > 'destined' to fight for its 'personal'

> > survival and growth...

> >

> > whole moved though [what was previously] me...

> >

> > whole acted through [what was previously] me...

> >

> > the effort ceased...

> >

> > the resistance ceased...

> >

> >

> > the 'distance' ceased...

> >

> > the barrier broke...

> >

> > the boundary broke...

> >

> > and, something strange happened...

> >

> >

> > an ambulance passed through the road...

> > and, tears came into my eyes without

> > any known reason...

> >

> > children played, giggle and danced

> > under the sunshine...

> >

> > and, I 'waved' with joy without any

> > reason...

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Someone became angry, violent, and

> > hateful and shouted...

> >

> > and, the 'body' [known as mine] burnt!

> >

> >

> >

> > as if with the 'barrier', 'boundary' gone...

> >

> > my 'defense mechanism' too has melted Away...

> >

> > as if I was just SPACE...

> >

> > and, I had NO Choice but to

> > 'experience' and " feel " whatever 'passes thru'...

> >

> >

> > with this 'shell' gone... I was not

> > just 'vulnerable'...

> >

> > I was an Open SPACE through which

> > everything passed and with [separate]

> > 'me' gone... I had no choice...

> >

> >

> > ...

> >

> >

> > Sometimes, I also experienced 'anger'...

> > and, now this anger was really

> > 'unrestricted', 'unconfined' and also

> > 'uncontrolled'...

> >

> >

> > In one way, I was beginning to see the

> > 'necessity', 'origin and 'root' of

> > 'ego'... the 'controlling',

> > 'discerning' mechanism...

> >

> > I was beginning to see why human

> > beings are not just *natural*!

> >

> >

> > so you are saying that ego is a necessary fonction to

> > control emotions?

>

>

>

> Yes. This among many other things...

>

> There is a 'response' that can

> automatically arise and play based on

> 'intuition' yet, this response may not

> always be in accordance with 'social

> obedience', 'family responsibility' and

> 'professional benefit'! 'Intellect' is

> one thing that attempts to 'guide' [and

> in some cases, control] the feeling,

> emotions, thought, action and response

> in these situations.

>

> I have experienced it many times in

> very trivial, 'practical' situation

> too...

>

> I sense a strong sense of 'affinity'

> with one of my female friend. Sometimes

> I walk out for a coffee with her;

> sometimes we drive together... sitting

> very close to her sometimes I feel this

> feeling so strong as if the air has

> gotten thick...

>

> I feel naturally inclined to touch

> her, hug her, embrace her...

>

> sometime, I fear that might actually

> do it...

>

> and, I feel it is only my 'intellect'

> [discerning ego] that protects me from

> doing so as doing that might be a

> socially irresponsible behavior.

>

> ...

>

> take you for example, Patricia...

>

> Based on your exchanges, I feel that

> if I was to meet you in person...

>

> it would be only my 'ego' [discerning

> intellect] that will protect you, me

> and rest of the society from...'me

> hugging you'...

>

 

 

now, there we are, a hug and a smile is worth thousands of words,

what's it all about Alfie, eh?

 

Love,

Ana

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My third favorite meditation is...

Inner Body Awareness...

 

Simply put... it is feeling the body

from inside, moving full focused

Attention on the body from inside...

 

I a way, it is trying to 'get to know'

the body from the inside...

 

and, I notice that more Aware of the

body I get... freer I get of it...

 

'free' as in feeling like... 'not

having' a body!

 

 

 

My fourth favorite meditation is...

death meditation which is akin to a

'mental suicide'... the [individual]

mind committing hara-kiri...

 

To imagine it, think... what will

happen, if 'I was not there'...

 

If I was not there to pass any comment

on what 'should' or 'should not'

happen, what is 'right' or 'wrong'...

 

 

 

My fifth favorite meditation is

'dropping the identity'...

 

which is quite simple really; as we go

to sleep, or just move through our

lives we [mentally] drop many things

and people including our friends,

lover, family, children and even more

readily... Al Gore, Condoleeza Rice,

Parish Hilton...

 

we don't lie down or sit wondering [at

least not always :)]... 'what will

happen to Paris Hilton'...

 

We don't keep worrying about what will

happen to Paris Hilton, whether her

boyfriend would be faithful or not,

what will her sister say about her,

what will tabloid write about her...

 

at some point we decide that what

happens to 'Paris Hilton' is not really

" my " problem!

 

 

What if I dropped 'Arvind' [my

'identity'] in the same away...

 

and, I decided that whatever 'could

happen to Arvind' is not really " my "

'concern'... at least not NOW!

 

 

What if I " choose " to become free of

'Arvind' as I choose to become 'free'

of 'Paris Hilton'...

 

....

 

I have noticed that it is quite *easy*

really!

 

All it takes is real *willingness*!

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Nisargadatta , " adithya_comming "

<adithya_comming wrote:

>

> My third favorite meditation is...

> Inner Body Awareness...

>

> Simply put... it is feeling the body

> from inside, moving full focused

> Attention on the body from inside...

>

> I a way, it is trying to 'get to know'

> the body from the inside...

>

> and, I notice that more Aware of the

> body I get... freer I get of it...

>

> 'free' as in feeling like... 'not

> having' a body!

>

>

>

> My fourth favorite meditation is...

> death meditation which is akin to a

> 'mental suicide'... the [individual]

> mind committing hara-kiri...

>

> To imagine it, think... what will

> happen, if 'I was not there'...

>

> If I was not there to pass any comment

> on what 'should' or 'should not'

> happen, what is 'right' or 'wrong'...

>

>

>

> My fifth favorite meditation is

> 'dropping the identity'...

>

> which is quite simple really; as we go

> to sleep, or just move through our

> lives we [mentally] drop many things

> and people including our friends,

> lover, family, children and even more

> readily... Al Gore, Condoleeza Rice,

> Parish Hilton...

>

> we don't lie down or sit wondering [at

> least not always :)]... 'what will

> happen to Paris Hilton'...

>

> We don't keep worrying about what will

> happen to Paris Hilton, whether her

> boyfriend would be faithful or not,

> what will her sister say about her,

> what will tabloid write about her...

>

> at some point we decide that what

> happens to 'Paris Hilton' is not really

> " my " problem!

>

>

> What if I dropped 'Arvind' [my

> 'identity'] in the same away...

>

> and, I decided that whatever 'could

> happen to Arvind' is not really " my "

> 'concern'... at least not NOW!

>

>

> What if I " choose " to become free of

> 'Arvind' as I choose to become 'free'

> of 'Paris Hilton'...

>

> ...

>

> I have noticed that it is quite *easy*

> really!

>

> All it takes is real *willingness*!

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

The benefits of meditation are negated by necessity to store them.

 

 

 

 

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And, then, there are some exceedingly

brilliant Instant Meditations that

Papaji taught:

 

- just for a Moment, don't touch

this 'I'.

 

 

- just at this Moment... make

absolutely no effort and don't stir any

thought!

 

 

- observe the Observer!

 

 

I noticed that each of these have

'ability' to take one to the place for

where 'I' arises...

 

the place from where " thought " arises...

 

the place from where " all " [else]

arises...

 

 

I found these 'methods' extremely

effective and instantaneous and I

reasoned, perhaps, then, it was not

that surprising if so many experienced

instantaneous 'Awakening' in Papaji

presence!

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Some of the key points that I read and

understood from Ramana were on the

lines of:

 

- anything that " happens " is NOT

the REAL thing!

 

- anything that has a 'beginning'

should also have an 'end'!

 

- anything that you " feel " , " see " ,

" experience " , " sense " [including

expanded , seemingly Infinite, Unbound

Consciousness that results from many

meditations] is NOT you!

 

- Seer is ALWAYS Real.

 

- Only Seer is Real.

 

- Seer Always Is.

 

- Thinker is Always Real.

 

[- Sleep, waking and dream ONLY

happen to mind. Your reality is beyond

all this and it remains CONSTANT

through all these states! ]

 

 

- Mind bent inward... feels like

God!

 

 

- Abide as the Thinker...

thoughts will disappear.

 

- Abide as the Meditator... and,

there is no need to meditate!

 

 

- Find out who you really are...

 

- Remain as You Are!

 

 

[- Abiding as 'what you are' is

NOT difficult. It is natural and

effortless.]

 

 

 

[ NNB ]

 

Nisargadatta , " adithya_comming "

<adithya_comming wrote:

>

> And, then, there are some exceedingly

> brilliant Instant Meditations that

> Papaji taught:

>

> - just for a Moment, don't touch

> this 'I'.

>

>

> - just at this Moment... make

> absolutely no effort and don't stir any

> thought!

>

>

> - observe the Observer!

>

>

> I noticed that each of these have

> 'ability' to take one to the place for

> where 'I' arises...

>

> the place from where " thought " arises...

>

> the place from where " all " [else]

> arises...

>

>

> I found these 'methods' extremely

> effective and instantaneous and I

> reasoned, perhaps, then, it was not

> that surprising if so many experienced

> instantaneous 'Awakening' in Papaji

> presence!

>

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>

> Some of the key points that I read and

> understood from Ramana were on the

> lines of:

>

> - anything that " happens " is NOT

> the REAL thing!

>

> - anything that has a 'beginning'

> should also have an 'end'!

>

> - anything that you " feel " , " see " ,

> " experience " , " sense " [including

> expanded , seemingly Infinite, Unbound

> Consciousness that results from many

> meditations] is NOT you!

>

> - Seer is ALWAYS Real.

>

> - Only Seer is Real.

>

> - Seer Always Is.

 

 

- There is NOT a Moment... when

you are NOT!

 

- See the Seer...

 

- Blank is the EVIL result of

looking for Mind...

 

- Even in order to see

'absence'... you MUST be there!

 

- At any moment, irrespective of

what you " see " , " feel " , " sense " or

experience... just ask... who is the

seer/experiencer? The answer is... I.

Ask who am 'I'?

 

- Abide as that 'I'... and, don't

pay much attention to what is 'seen',

'experienced' or 'felt'... all that is

'transitory'... all that has a

beginning and an end! Only the Seer is

Real.

 

- There is Only One I.

 

- Ego is just a " thought " !

 

[but, the " thinker " is ALWAYS Real.]

 

 

>

> - Thinker is Always Real.

>

> [- Sleep, waking and dream ONLY

> happen to mind. Your reality is beyond

> all this and it remains CONSTANT

> through all these states! ]

>

>

> - Mind bent inward... feels like

> God!

>

>

> - Abide as the Thinker...

> thoughts will disappear.

>

> - Abide as the Meditator... and,

> there is no need to meditate!

>

>

> - Find out who you really are...

>

> - Remain as You Are!

>

>

> [- Abiding as 'what you are' is

> NOT difficult. It is natural and

> effortless.]

>

>

>

> [ ... ]

>

>

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I just began reading this thread at this post, and these meditations

are awesome!:-))

 

There is something I do that could be called meditations:

 

" Contemplate the perfection of things being exactly what they are. "

In doing this, things are seen as absolutes and therefore are not

dual or polar.

 

Stu

 

" adithya_comming " <adithya_comming wrote:

>

> My third favorite meditation is...

> Inner Body Awareness...

>

> Simply put... it is feeling the body

> from inside, moving full focused

> Attention on the body from inside...

>

> I a way, it is trying to 'get to know'

> the body from the inside...

>

> and, I notice that more Aware of the

> body I get... freer I get of it...

>

> 'free' as in feeling like... 'not

> having' a body!

>

>

>

> My fourth favorite meditation is...

> death meditation which is akin to a

> 'mental suicide'... the [individual]

> mind committing hara-kiri...

>

> To imagine it, think... what will

> happen, if 'I was not there'...

>

> If I was not there to pass any comment

> on what 'should' or 'should not'

> happen, what is 'right' or 'wrong'...

>

>

>

> My fifth favorite meditation is

> 'dropping the identity'...

>

> which is quite simple really; as we go

> to sleep, or just move through our

> lives we [mentally] drop many things

> and people including our friends,

> lover, family, children and even more

> readily... Al Gore, Condoleeza Rice,

> Parish Hilton...

>

> we don't lie down or sit wondering [at

> least not always :)]... 'what will

> happen to Paris Hilton'...

>

> We don't keep worrying about what will

> happen to Paris Hilton, whether her

> boyfriend would be faithful or not,

> what will her sister say about her,

> what will tabloid write about her...

>

> at some point we decide that what

> happens to 'Paris Hilton' is not really

> " my " problem!

>

>

> What if I dropped 'Arvind' [my

> 'identity'] in the same away...

>

> and, I decided that whatever 'could

> happen to Arvind' is not really " my "

> 'concern'... at least not NOW!

>

>

> What if I " choose " to become free of

> 'Arvind' as I choose to become 'free'

> of 'Paris Hilton'...

>

> ...

>

> I have noticed that it is quite *easy*

> really!

>

> All it takes is real *willingness*!

>

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Nisargadatta , " stuartkfmn " <stuartkfmn wrote:

>

>

> I just began reading this thread at this post, and these meditations

> are awesome!:-))

>

> There is something I do that could be called meditations:

>

> " Contemplate the perfection of things being exactly what they are. "

> In doing this, things are seen as absolutes and therefore are not

> dual or polar.

>

> Stu

>

> " adithya_comming " <adithya_comming@> wrote:

> >

> > My third favorite meditation is...

> > Inner Body Awareness...

> >

> > Simply put... it is feeling the body

> > from inside, moving full focused

> > Attention on the body from inside...

> >

> > I a way, it is trying to 'get to know'

> > the body from the inside...

> >

> > and, I notice that more Aware of the

> > body I get... freer I get of it...

> >

> > 'free' as in feeling like... 'not

> > having' a body!

> >

> >

> >

> > My fourth favorite meditation is...

> > death meditation which is akin to a

> > 'mental suicide'... the [individual]

> > mind committing hara-kiri...

> >

> > To imagine it, think... what will

> > happen, if 'I was not there'...

> >

> > If I was not there to pass any comment

> > on what 'should' or 'should not'

> > happen, what is 'right' or 'wrong'...

> >

> >

> >

> > My fifth favorite meditation is

> > 'dropping the identity'...

> >

> > which is quite simple really; as we go

> > to sleep, or just move through our

> > lives we [mentally] drop many things

> > and people including our friends,

> > lover, family, children and even more

> > readily... Al Gore, Condoleeza Rice,

> > Parish Hilton...

> >

> > we don't lie down or sit wondering [at

> > least not always :)]... 'what will

> > happen to Paris Hilton'...

> >

> > We don't keep worrying about what will

> > happen to Paris Hilton, whether her

> > boyfriend would be faithful or not,

> > what will her sister say about her,

> > what will tabloid write about her...

> >

> > at some point we decide that what

> > happens to 'Paris Hilton' is not really

> > " my " problem!

> >

> >

> > What if I dropped 'Arvind' [my

> > 'identity'] in the same away...

> >

> > and, I decided that whatever 'could

> > happen to Arvind' is not really " my "

> > 'concern'... at least not NOW!

> >

> >

> > What if I " choose " to become free of

> > 'Arvind' as I choose to become 'free'

> > of 'Paris Hilton'...

> >

> > ...

> >

> > I have noticed that it is quite *easy*

> > really!

> >

> > All it takes is real *willingness*!

> >

>

 

 

 

 

 

I know a man who spent his life attempting to polish a brick into a

mirror.

 

 

 

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Nisargadatta , " stuartkfmn " <stuartkfmn

wrote:

 

>> I just began reading this thread at

this post, and these meditations

are awesome!:-))

 

>> There is something I do that could be

called meditations:

 

>> " Contemplate the perfection of things

being exactly what they are. "

 

>> In doing this, things are seen as

absolutes and therefore are not

dual or polar.

 

>>Stu

 

Yes.

 

That indeed is a Great Meditation!

 

I learned it from Katie. Katie taught

" Loving what Is " !

 

I noticed that when my outlook is

of " love " , I naturally see things

far more clearly and without the

filters of resistance and rigid expectations!

 

>

> " adithya_comming " <adithya_comming@> wrote:

> >

> > My third favorite meditation is...

> > Inner Body Awareness...

> >

> > Simply put... it is feeling the body

> > from inside, moving full focused

> > Attention on the body from inside...

> >

> > I a way, it is trying to 'get to know'

> > the body from the inside...

> >

> > and, I notice that more Aware of the

> > body I get... freer I get of it...

> >

> > 'free' as in feeling like... 'not

> > having' a body!

> >

> >

> >

> > My fourth favorite meditation is...

> > death meditation which is akin to a

> > 'mental suicide'... the [individual]

> > mind committing hara-kiri...

> >

> > To imagine it, think... what will

> > happen, if 'I was not there'...

> >

> > If I was not there to pass any comment

> > on what 'should' or 'should not'

> > happen, what is 'right' or 'wrong'...

> >

> >

> >

> > My fifth favorite meditation is

> > 'dropping the identity'...

> >

> > which is quite simple really; as we go

> > to sleep, or just move through our

> > lives we [mentally] drop many things

> > and people including our friends,

> > lover, family, children and even more

> > readily... Al Gore, Condoleeza Rice,

> > Parish Hilton...

> >

> > we don't lie down or sit wondering [at

> > least not always :)]... 'what will

> > happen to Paris Hilton'...

> >

> > We don't keep worrying about what will

> > happen to Paris Hilton, whether her

> > boyfriend would be faithful or not,

> > what will her sister say about her,

> > what will tabloid write about her...

> >

> > at some point we decide that what

> > happens to 'Paris Hilton' is not really

> > " my " problem!

> >

> >

> > What if I dropped 'Arvind' [my

> > 'identity'] in the same away...

> >

> > and, I decided that whatever 'could

> > happen to Arvind' is not really " my "

> > 'concern'... at least not NOW!

> >

> >

> > What if I " choose " to become free of

> > 'Arvind' as I choose to become 'free'

> > of 'Paris Hilton'...

> >

> > ...

> >

> > I have noticed that it is quite *easy*

> > really!

> >

> > All it takes is real *willingness*!

> >

>

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