Guest guest Posted May 16, 2006 Report Share Posted May 16, 2006 I believe that the human brain is an important factor in how we see or don't see ourselves. I believe that the state of " no self " is not a normal state in all people because it may not be a good survival tool for a meat body to have in an eat or be eaten world. It seems to me that the no self state that Suzanne Segal wrote about could have developed or been deleted from the gene pool during evolution, and that it was deleted because emotions like fear for survival of self as a single individual was useful. the oneness people got eaten and the " me " people survived to reproduce and prosper. I also feel that we can alter the connections in our brain by diligent work in the form of meditation and self inquiry, and thus establish a no self state. So I think that structure can monitor function and also, at the same time, function can monitor structure. Stu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 17, 2006 Report Share Posted May 17, 2006 I also feel that we can alter the connections in our brain by diligent work in the form of meditation and self inquiry, and thus establish a no self state. So I think that structure can monitor function and also, at the same time, function can monitor structure. Stu L.E: You've got it a little backwards Stu. It's more like the cellular community that has organized itself as a brain, can alter itself using you as ego to direct activities that the brain can use to alter itself. The " no-self' state is the continual undercurrent of the cellular community, and the self-function is just the steering operation to move the human organism around. In that sense, the you you think you are does not and never did exist as an independent entity. Think that music arises from the CD, but is not the CD. It is an outcome of the relationship between the CD disk and the player mechanism. In that sense, music is the vibrational outcome or expression of the CD but has no independent existence. " Altering " is not something you do, it is something the brain does to itself for the benefit of the cellular community which creates it as part of itself. Larry Epston Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 18, 2006 Report Share Posted May 18, 2006 epston wrote: > > I also feel that we can alter the connections in our brain by diligent > work in the form of meditation and self inquiry, and thus establish a > no self state. > > So I think that structure can monitor function and also, at the same > time, function can monitor structure. > > Stu > > L.E: You've got it a little backwards Stu. It's more like the cellular community that has organized itself as a brain, can alter itself using you as ego to direct activities that the brain can use to alter itself. The " no-self' state is the continual undercurrent of the cellular community, and the self-function is just the steering operation to move the human organism around. In that sense, the you you think you are does not and never did exist as an independent entity. Think that music arises from the CD, but is not the CD. It is an outcome of the relationship between the CD disk and the player mechanism. In that sense, music is the vibrational outcome or expression of the CD but has no independent existence. " Altering " is not something you do, it is something the brain does to itself for the benefit of the cellular community which creates it as part of itself. > Larry Epston > So you are saying that the brain creates a " remote contro mechanism " called an ego, that the brain then uses as it sees fit... and ego, sensing its reflection as effects that it causes, thinks it is a living thing? Very interesting!:-) So how does all of what you said fit into the fact that you were simply telling a " story " ? I take it that you were giving an analogy, as in " pointing a finger at the moon " ? Stu > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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