Guest guest Posted May 16, 2006 Report Share Posted May 16, 2006 A suggestion for list etiquitte: please snip extraneous headers and words from previous posts. There is post after post on here with a bunch of words you have to scroll down to get to one sentence, or one question. All of the previous verbiage isn't necessary to have a context for that one sentence - probably just the previous post would be sufficient and extraneous headers can be snipped. I can see leaving in a series of exchanges if it's necessary to understand the response -- but often this isn't the case, and it is time-consuming to scroll down post after post to get to one sentence. Considering the amount of posting going on, on this list, I think a change would be helpful - or you can write your one or two sentences at the top followed by " nothing new below " or " nnb. " -- D. (nnb) Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " pliantheart " <illusyn@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " pliantheart " <illusyn@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " pliantheart " <illusyn@> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " kenj02001 " <kenj02001@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " > > <lastrain@> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " kenj02001 " > > <kenj02001@> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " > > > > > > <lastrain@> > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " lissbon2002 " > > > > > > <lissbon2002@> > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Self knowledge is all ;-) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Len > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > That might be true........ if there were a self. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ** OY!!!! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Same ol', same ol' ;-) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It was never about 'entity' nor entity denied. > > > > > > > > > > So avoidance can be relinquished...now. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It's about self-activity, energy, intent. > > > > > > > > > > That, and the awareness-of-that, is inseparably > what > > > > > > > > > > you are. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > That is the hypnotic delusion of I am. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It will appear real......until it doesn't. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ** self-centering motion/emotion toward an imaginary > > > > > > > > center of perception, knowing and being never required > > > > > > > > any I-am state or self. It's real enough, as an > > > > > > > > action. It's suffering--the first noble truth, the > first > > > > > > > > grace. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 'Truth' needs a home. > > > > > > > > > > > > ??? > > > > > > > > > > > > not true, AT ALL > > > > > > > > > > > > " Truth needs X " > > > > > > not true AT ALL > > > > > > > > > > > > It is like saying, " What Is needs ____ " > > > > > > There is nothing that can go into that ____. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 'Truth' does not exist in nature. > > > > > > > > You did not write: 'Truth' does not exist. > > > > You wrote: 'Truth' does not exist in nature. > > > > > > > > Very different statements. > > > > > > > > But it is not whether Truth exists or not. > > > > Existence as attribute does not apply to Truth. > > > > > > > > So we cannot meaningfully discuss here existence of Truth. > > > > > > > > But there can be no doubt: > > > > Truth is the case. > > > > > > > > > > > > Bill > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What is truth? > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > you expect me to *say*? > > > > hasn't it been clear from this discussion > > that such could never be *said*? > > > > Nevertheless, Truth is the case. > > > > > > If it is the case.........what is it? > > > > toombaru > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 16, 2006 Report Share Posted May 16, 2006 Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033 wrote: > > A suggestion for list etiquitte: please snip extraneous headers and > words from previous posts. > > There is post after post on here with a bunch of words you have to > scroll down to get to one sentence, or one question. > > All of the previous verbiage isn't necessary to have a context for > that one sentence - probably just the previous post would be > sufficient and extraneous headers can be snipped. > > I can see leaving in a series of exchanges if it's necessary to > understand the response -- but often this isn't the case, and it is > time-consuming to scroll down post after post to get to one sentence. > Considering the amount of posting going on, on this list, I think a > change would be helpful - or you can write your one or two sentences > at the top followed by " nothing new below " or " nnb. " > > -- D. > > (nnb) > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " pliantheart " <illusyn@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " pliantheart " <illusyn@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " pliantheart " <illusyn@> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " > <lastrain@> > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " kenj02001 " > <kenj02001@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " > > > <lastrain@> > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " kenj02001 " > > > <kenj02001@> > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " > > > > > > > <lastrain@> > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " lissbon2002 " > > > > > > > <lissbon2002@> > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Self knowledge is all ;-) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Len > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > That might be true........ if there were a self. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ** OY!!!! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Same ol', same ol' ;-) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It was never about 'entity' nor entity denied. > > > > > > > > > > > So avoidance can be relinquished...now. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It's about self-activity, energy, intent. > > > > > > > > > > > That, and the awareness-of-that, is inseparably > > what > > > > > > > > > > > you are. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > That is the hypnotic delusion of I am. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It will appear real......until it doesn't. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ** self-centering motion/emotion toward an imaginary > > > > > > > > > center of perception, knowing and being never > required > > > > > > > > > any I-am state or self. It's real enough, as an > > > > > > > > > action. It's suffering--the first noble truth, the > > first > > > > > > > > > grace. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 'Truth' needs a home. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ??? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > not true, AT ALL > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " Truth needs X " > > > > > > > not true AT ALL > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It is like saying, " What Is needs ____ " > > > > > > > There is nothing that can go into that ____. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 'Truth' does not exist in nature. > > > > > > > > > > You did not write: 'Truth' does not exist. > > > > > You wrote: 'Truth' does not exist in nature. > > > > > > > > > > Very different statements. > > > > > > > > > > But it is not whether Truth exists or not. > > > > > Existence as attribute does not apply to Truth. > > > > > > > > > > So we cannot meaningfully discuss here existence of Truth. > > > > > > > > > > But there can be no doubt: > > > > > Truth is the case. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bill > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What is truth? > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > > you expect me to *say*? > > > > > > hasn't it been clear from this discussion > > > that such could never be *said*? > > > > > > Nevertheless, Truth is the case. > > > > > > > > > > > > If it is the case.........what is it? > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > Oh Dan, that's just another idea. but..........it's a good one. I will do so in the future. :-) toombaru Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 16, 2006 Report Share Posted May 16, 2006 Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain wrote: > > Oh Dan, that's just another idea. > > > > > but..........it's a good one. > > > > I will do so in the future. > > > > > :-) > toombaru Hey, thanks, Toom! -- Dan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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