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I'd appreciate some feedback on the following.

 

One day, years ago, I asked myself " What IS a problem? " As I examined it

(i.e., felt into it from a stance of " I don't know. Let me look at this

matter as if for the first time. " ), I came up with something rather

intriguing to me. Perhaps I missed something which is why I'm running it

by the members of this list.

 

The " process " I went through went something like this, and it's being

presented as if I'm having a dialogue with someone, or even myself.

 

Me #1: I have a problem.

Me#2: What is it?

 

Me #1: I get angry very easily. [Note: It could be jealousy, headache,

cancer, pimples, feeling cold or too hot, jut broke up with someone, etc

ad infinitum.]

Me#2: I see. Is that a fact?

 

Me #1: Well, yes it is.

Me#2: So, what's the problem?

 

Me #1: I don't want to get angry. I want to be peaceful.

Me#2: OK. Seems desirable to me! Is that a fact too?

 

Me #1: Yes!

Me#2: Well then, where's the problem.

 

Me #1: When I get angry I say things I don't mean and it makes me feel

distant from people, especially my friends.

Me#2: That too, I take it, is a fact?

 

Me #1: Yes, it is!

Me#2: So, once again, where or what is the problem?

 

Me #1: I don't want this to happen. I want to feel close to them all

the time.

Me#2: That's understandable. And that too is also a fact?

 

Me #1: Yes, It is.

Me#2: So once again, what's the problem?

 

Me #1: Now I'm starting to feel angry!

Me#2: Isn't that also a fact?

 

Me #1: Yes, it is and you damn well know it!

Me#2: Well, it sure seems to me you're getting angry, which is simply

a fact, right? So where is the problem?

 

Me #1: Yes! It's another fact. And dammit, I don't know where or what

the problem is. In fact, I'm starting to think that in response to

everything I say you'll come back with " Well, that's a fact. Where's the

problem? Right? And that's beginning to be a problem to me!

Me#2: Well, yes, at the risk of pissing you off even further, that's

what I'll say. Yet isn't all that simply just another fact?

 

Me #1: Yes, it is!

Me#2: So where's the problem?

 

Me #1: Oh, I'm beginning to see what you're saying, or encouragingto me

to realize. My " problem " , so to speak, is simply me resisting the way

things are at any given moment. Not accepting a fact as a fact. Wanting

something to be different than it is, which is impossible because it is

the way it is and can't be any other way at that given moment. Right?

Me#2: Yes! And also, the resistance to wanting things be different or

other than the way they are is simply another fact. And, not accepting a

fact as a fact is also a fact. Furthermore, resisting something being

the way it is perpetuates it staying the way it is. It's as if this

attitude kind of freezes it into place and carries it on into the next

moment. But again, this is simply yet another fact...not a problem.

 

Me #1: I'm beginning to get it! So there's nothing but facts. Fact

after fact after fact after fact and nowhere is there a problem anywhere

whatsoever. Never was and never will be! Only successive moments of fact

and even my railing against " what is " is a fact? Now that you've pointed

this out it's so obviously simple that I feel like laughing out loud at

what I've been doing to myself. How silly and stupid of me to be causing

my own upset! But still, there seems to be a sense of there being a

problem. Is there? And if so, what is it?

Me#2: Well, my friend, that's up to you to discover. You're really onto

something here so definitely continue your inquiry. You're very very

close to discovering something absolutely essential in my view.

 

Michael

Adamson

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Here are some views on what a problem is:

 

There are people who are afraid to confront an answer because they are

afraid of not having the game a problem gives them. A solution can

leave one with no game.

 

People can be afraid that if they don't have " mind chatter " and

problems, they will have no way of avoiding seeing that which they are

unwilling to see.

 

People can be afraid of not " having " things because they consider

themselves to be a " thing " .

 

Stu

 

 

" Adamson " <adamson wrote:

>

>

> I'd appreciate some feedback on the following.

>

> One day, years ago, I asked myself " What IS a problem? " As I

examined it

> (i.e., felt into it from a stance of " I don't know. Let me look at this

> matter as if for the first time. " ), I came up with something rather

> intriguing to me. Perhaps I missed something which is why I'm

running it

> by the members of this list.

>

> The " process " I went through went something like this, and it's being

> presented as if I'm having a dialogue with someone, or even myself.

>

> Me #1: I have a problem.

> Me#2: What is it?

>

> Me #1: I get angry very easily. [Note: It could be jealousy, headache,

> cancer, pimples, feeling cold or too hot, jut broke up with someone,

etc

> ad infinitum.]

> Me#2: I see. Is that a fact?

>

> Me #1: Well, yes it is.

> Me#2: So, what's the problem?

>

> Me #1: I don't want to get angry. I want to be peaceful.

> Me#2: OK. Seems desirable to me! Is that a fact too?

>

> Me #1: Yes!

> Me#2: Well then, where's the problem.

>

> Me #1: When I get angry I say things I don't mean and it makes me feel

> distant from people, especially my friends.

> Me#2: That too, I take it, is a fact?

>

> Me #1: Yes, it is!

> Me#2: So, once again, where or what is the problem?

>

> Me #1: I don't want this to happen. I want to feel close to them all

> the time.

> Me#2: That's understandable. And that too is also a fact?

>

> Me #1: Yes, It is.

> Me#2: So once again, what's the problem?

>

> Me #1: Now I'm starting to feel angry!

> Me#2: Isn't that also a fact?

>

> Me #1: Yes, it is and you damn well know it!

> Me#2: Well, it sure seems to me you're getting angry, which is simply

> a fact, right? So where is the problem?

>

> Me #1: Yes! It's another fact. And dammit, I don't know where or what

> the problem is. In fact, I'm starting to think that in response to

> everything I say you'll come back with " Well, that's a fact. Where's

the

> problem? Right? And that's beginning to be a problem to me!

> Me#2: Well, yes, at the risk of pissing you off even further, that's

> what I'll say. Yet isn't all that simply just another fact?

>

> Me #1: Yes, it is!

> Me#2: So where's the problem?

>

> Me #1: Oh, I'm beginning to see what you're saying, or

encouragingto me

> to realize. My " problem " , so to speak, is simply me resisting the way

> things are at any given moment. Not accepting a fact as a fact. Wanting

> something to be different than it is, which is impossible because it is

> the way it is and can't be any other way at that given moment. Right?

> Me#2: Yes! And also, the resistance to wanting things be

different or

> other than the way they are is simply another fact. And, not

accepting a

> fact as a fact is also a fact. Furthermore, resisting something being

> the way it is perpetuates it staying the way it is. It's as if this

> attitude kind of freezes it into place and carries it on into the next

> moment. But again, this is simply yet another fact...not a problem.

>

> Me #1: I'm beginning to get it! So there's nothing but facts. Fact

> after fact after fact after fact and nowhere is there a problem

anywhere

> whatsoever. Never was and never will be! Only successive moments of

fact

> and even my railing against " what is " is a fact? Now that you've

pointed

> this out it's so obviously simple that I feel like laughing out loud at

> what I've been doing to myself. How silly and stupid of me to be

causing

> my own upset! But still, there seems to be a sense of there being a

> problem. Is there? And if so, what is it?

> Me#2: Well, my friend, that's up to you to discover. You're really

onto

> something here so definitely continue your inquiry. You're very very

> close to discovering something absolutely essential in my view.

>

> Michael

> Adamson

>

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