Who Is the Most Enlightened? (stu) (Christo)

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Man, why are you so upset? I just gave you my two cents on the subject and you

go ballistic.

 

Anyway, in reply to your reply: I am not an expert on Nisargadatta; however,

from what I have read by him, he emphasized that he was not so much " thinking "

about what his Guru had told him, but rather practicing what he had told him. He

had told him to hang on to the feeling of Self-Nature, and that is what he did.

He did this basically all the time, and that feeling became extremely solid and

continuous for him, until it became perfect awakening. He thought about his

teacher's words I am sure, but only to the extent that they reminded him of the

" sadhana " his teacher had given him.

 

The rest of your reply is a bit hard to reply to. What exactly are you

asking?Saying?

 

Especially, what is this about a pain in the right side of the heart? I never

said anything like that at all. I never said anything to do with a feeling in

that area. I simply said that Ramana said that that was the primary locus of

conscious in relation to the body. That's all I said.

 

As for books etc, why do you denigrate the fact that (as I am sure you too)

have read a few books? I could get into my experinces too. I just wanted to

quote a few authorities on the matters that you guys were discussing. I mean, I

at least quoted the top guys - Ramana and Nisargadatta. I wasn't quoting some

like Reverand Moon or David Koresh.

 

Figures like Ramana and Nisargadatta are good to consider. They have a lot to

teach us.

 

I would welcome a reply to all of what I said, but try and keep on point.

Before you get pissed off and go a bit ape, just read what I have said and give

an honest, well-thought-out reply.

 

After all, this is a discussion group (I think) about getting to the Truth, so

we are not at war, but trying to help each other.

 

Seriously, Christo

epston wrote:

In a message dated 5/21/2006 11:56:42 PM Pacific Daylight Time,

tony_s_sandford writes:

 

> What Nisargadatta (and Ramana) preferrred to talk about was that which is

> primary and freedom: Self Nature as consciousness itself or BEING. They did

> not denigrate other paths, but only felt that they were not the direct route.

> The direct route is to locate and be that which you are in Truth (This is

> defintiely the instrucction Nisargadatta was given by his Guru).

>

> So that is my two cents on the subject

>

> Christo

>

L.E: What do you think that Nisargadatta was thinking about for the three

years of effort before he realized his deepest nature? How to sell more

cigarettes?

And what are you thinking about as you progess in the effort to see your own

ultimate nature? And who or what is doing that thinking? Is it Brahma

thinking about himself, or mind trying to discover its own nature, or ego

spinning

its wheels? And who or what is able to write and read these words? Shadows?

Are you aware of a pain in the right side of your head? Do you have a head, or

does it have you? Do you need to read a book to answer these questions?

Why?