Guest guest Posted May 24, 2006 Report Share Posted May 24, 2006 L.E: Inside the false is the real. Perhaps you will be content to know that. How can the real produce the false? Or hide from its own nature, or not know it is dreaming. Your situation is much better than you think it is. One suffers; one is free. Such is the nature of what it is. There is no outside. All is embraced, so relax. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 24, 2006 Report Share Posted May 24, 2006 In a message dated 5/23/2006 7:34:51 PM Pacific Daylight Time, anabebe57 writes: > > If we could ever be 'enlightened' once and for all, the 'game' would > be finished, eh? ...And we wouldn't want THAT to happen, now would > be. L.E: What is real does not need to be enlightened and since it includes all that, is there is no game. Never was, never will be. Howling of the wolves, chirping of the birds, buzzing of the bees, and a whole lot of mumbling. Love and Light, Larry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 24, 2006 Report Share Posted May 24, 2006 Nisargadatta , epston wrote: > > L.E: Inside the false is the real. Perhaps you will be content to know that. > > How can the real produce the false? Or hide from its own nature, or not know > it is dreaming. Your situation is much better than you think it is. One > suffers; one is free. Such is the nature of what it is. There is no outside. All > is embraced, so relax. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 24, 2006 Report Share Posted May 24, 2006 Nisargadatta , epston wrote: > > In a message dated 5/23/2006 7:34:51 PM Pacific Daylight Time, > anabebe57 writes: > > > > > If we could ever be 'enlightened' once and for all, the 'game' would > > be finished, eh? ...And we wouldn't want THAT to happen, now would > > be. > > L.E: What is real does not need to be enlightened and since it includes all > that, is there is no game. Never was, never will be. Howling of the wolves, > chirping of the birds, buzzing of the bees, and a whole lot of mumbling. > > Love and Light, > > Larry > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 24, 2006 Report Share Posted May 24, 2006 Nisargadatta , epston wrote: > > In a message dated 5/23/2006 7:34:51 PM Pacific Daylight Time, > anabebe57 writes: > > > > > If we could ever be 'enlightened' once and for all, the 'game' would > > be finished, eh? ...And we wouldn't want THAT to happen, now would > > be. > > L.E: What is real does not need to be enlightened and since it includes all > that, is there is no game. Never was, never will be. Howling of the wolves, > chirping of the birds, buzzing of the bees, and a whole lot of mumbling. > > Love and Light, > > Larry And meanwhile, various animal species are being made extinct left and right. Hundreds of thousands of children abused, adults being sold and exploited, wars being fought in dozens of countries -- manipulation, violence, and deceit are the coin of the realm -- around the globe. And no, it's not just a story, and it's not loving and light-ful. People are indeed hurting themselves and others. It happens often, across cultures, and it tends to escalate, and is escalating. Spiritual talk doesn't exempt anyone. And one who understands, includes all this, as is. -- Dan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 24, 2006 Report Share Posted May 24, 2006 Nisargadatta , " anabebe57 " <anabebe57 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , epston@ wrote: > > > > In a message dated 5/23/2006 7:34:51 PM Pacific Daylight Time, > > anabebe57@ writes: > > > > > > > > If we could ever be 'enlightened' once and for all, the 'game' > would > > > be finished, eh? ...And we wouldn't want THAT to happen, now > would > > > be. > > > > L.E: What is real does not need to be enlightened and since it > includes all > > that, is there is no game. Never was, never will be. Howling of > the wolves, > > chirping of the birds, buzzing of the bees, and a whole lot of > mumbling. > > > > Love and Light, > > > > Larry > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 24, 2006 Report Share Posted May 24, 2006 Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , epston@ wrote: > > > > In a message dated 5/23/2006 7:34:51 PM Pacific Daylight Time, > > anabebe57@ writes: > > > > > > > > If we could ever be 'enlightened' once and for all, the 'game' would > > > be finished, eh? ...And we wouldn't want THAT to happen, now would > > > be. > > > > L.E: What is real does not need to be enlightened and since it > includes all > > that, is there is no game. Never was, never will be. Howling of > the wolves, > > chirping of the birds, buzzing of the bees, and a whole lot of mumbling. > > > > Love and Light, > > > > Larry > > And meanwhile, various animal species are being made extinct left and > right. > > Hundreds of thousands of children abused, adults being sold and > exploited, wars being fought in dozens of countries -- manipulation, > violence, and deceit are the coin of the realm -- around the globe. > > And no, it's not just a story, and it's not loving and light-ful. > > People are indeed hurting themselves and others. It happens often, > across cultures, and it tends to escalate, and is escalating. > Spiritual talk doesn't exempt anyone. > > And one who understands, includes all this, as is. > > -- Dan > It includes all this....as it isn't. toombaru Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 24, 2006 Report Share Posted May 24, 2006 Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " anabebe57 " <anabebe57@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , epston@ wrote: > > > > > > In a message dated 5/23/2006 7:34:51 PM Pacific Daylight Time, > > > anabebe57@ writes: > > > > > > > > > > > If we could ever be 'enlightened' once and for all, the 'game' > > would > > > > be finished, eh? ...And we wouldn't want THAT to happen, now > > would > > > > be. > > > > > > L.E: What is real does not need to be enlightened and since it > > includes all > > > that, is there is no game. Never was, never will be. Howling of > > the wolves, > > > chirping of the birds, buzzing of the bees, and a whole lot of > > mumbling. > > > > > > Love and Light, > > > > > > Larry > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 24, 2006 Report Share Posted May 24, 2006 Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , epston@ wrote: > > > > > > In a message dated 5/23/2006 7:34:51 PM Pacific Daylight Time, > > > anabebe57@ writes: > > > > > > > > > > > If we could ever be 'enlightened' once and for all, the 'game' > would > > > > be finished, eh? ...And we wouldn't want THAT to happen, now would > > > > be. > > > > > > L.E: What is real does not need to be enlightened and since it > > includes all > > > that, is there is no game. Never was, never will be. Howling of > > the wolves, > > > chirping of the birds, buzzing of the bees, and a whole lot of > mumbling. > > > > > > Love and Light, > > > > > > Larry > > > > And meanwhile, various animal species are being made extinct left and > > right. > > > > Hundreds of thousands of children abused, adults being sold and > > exploited, wars being fought in dozens of countries -- manipulation, > > violence, and deceit are the coin of the realm -- around the globe. > > > > And no, it's not just a story, and it's not loving and light-ful. > > > > People are indeed hurting themselves and others. It happens often, > > across cultures, and it tends to escalate, and is escalating. > > Spiritual talk doesn't exempt anyone. > > > > And one who understands, includes all this, as is. > > > > -- Dan > > > > > > It includes all this....as it isn't. > > > > toombaru Word games are fun. But is and isn't meet without separation. And the results of humans abusing each other and their world, aren't fun, and aren't negated by a word game. We deal with the consequences -- and again, this won't be negated by a word game. Is and isn't meet. -- Dan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 24, 2006 Report Share Posted May 24, 2006 Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain wrote: > Nothing can see itself. > > > toombaru Chance the Gardner likes to watch. D. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 24, 2006 Report Share Posted May 24, 2006 Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> wrote: > > > Nothing can see itself. > > > > > > toombaru > > Chance the Gardner likes to watch. > > D. > :-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 24, 2006 Report Share Posted May 24, 2006 Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , epston@ wrote: > > > > > > > > In a message dated 5/23/2006 7:34:51 PM Pacific Daylight Time, > > > > anabebe57@ writes: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If we could ever be 'enlightened' once and for all, the 'game' > > would > > > > > be finished, eh? ...And we wouldn't want THAT to happen, now > would > > > > > be. > > > > > > > > L.E: What is real does not need to be enlightened and since it > > > includes all > > > > that, is there is no game. Never was, never will be. Howling of > > > the wolves, > > > > chirping of the birds, buzzing of the bees, and a whole lot of > > mumbling. > > > > > > > > Love and Light, > > > > > > > > Larry > > > > > > And meanwhile, various animal species are being made extinct left and > > > right. > > > > > > Hundreds of thousands of children abused, adults being sold and > > > exploited, wars being fought in dozens of countries -- manipulation, > > > violence, and deceit are the coin of the realm -- around the globe. > > > > > > And no, it's not just a story, and it's not loving and light-ful. > > > > > > People are indeed hurting themselves and others. It happens often, > > > across cultures, and it tends to escalate, and is escalating. > > > Spiritual talk doesn't exempt anyone. > > > > > > And one who understands, includes all this, as is. > > > > > > -- Dan > > > > > > > > > > > It includes all this....as it isn't. > > > > > > > > toombaru > > Word games are fun. > > But is and isn't meet without separation. > > And the results of humans abusing each other and their world, aren't > fun, and aren't negated by a word game. > > We deal with the consequences -- and again, this won't be negated by a > word game. > > Is and isn't meet. > > -- Dan > The suffering does indeed appear to be real.......Doesn't it? toombaru Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 24, 2006 Report Share Posted May 24, 2006 Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain wrote: (snip) > > > > And one who understands, includes all this, as is. > > > > > > > > -- Dan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It includes all this....as it isn't. > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > Word games are fun. > > > > But is and isn't meet without separation. > > > > And the results of humans abusing each other and their world, aren't > > fun, and aren't negated by a word game. > > > > We deal with the consequences -- and again, this won't be negated by a > > word game. > > > > Is and isn't meet. > > > > -- Dan > > > > > > The suffering does indeed appear to be real.......Doesn't it? > > > > toombaru It only appears as if unreal to an unreal entity. -- Dan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 24, 2006 Report Share Posted May 24, 2006 Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> wrote: > > (snip) > > > > > And one who understands, includes all this, as is. > > > > > > > > > > -- Dan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It includes all this....as it isn't. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > Word games are fun. > > > > > > But is and isn't meet without separation. > > > > > > And the results of humans abusing each other and their world, aren't > > > fun, and aren't negated by a word game. > > > > > > We deal with the consequences -- and again, this won't be negated by a > > > word game. > > > > > > Is and isn't meet. > > > > > > -- Dan > > > > > > > > > > > The suffering does indeed appear to be real.......Doesn't it? > > > > > > > > toombaru > > It only appears as if unreal to an unreal entity. > > -- Dan > As opposed to a real entity? toombaru Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 24, 2006 Report Share Posted May 24, 2006 Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> wrote: > > > > (snip) > > > > > > And one who understands, includes all this, as is. > > > > > > > > > > > > -- Dan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It includes all this....as it isn't. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > Word games are fun. > > > > > > > > But is and isn't meet without separation. > > > > > > > > And the results of humans abusing each other and their world, aren't > > > > fun, and aren't negated by a word game. > > > > > > > > We deal with the consequences -- and again, this won't be > negated by a > > > > word game. > > > > > > > > Is and isn't meet. > > > > > > > > -- Dan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The suffering does indeed appear to be real.......Doesn't it? > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > It only appears as if unreal to an unreal entity. > > > > -- Dan > > > > > > As opposed to a real entity? > > > > toombaru Do you think I should provide an answer to the question of an unreal entity? If I do, wouldn't it be most appropriate to provide an unreal answer? Here's my answer to your question: Roses are blooming outside my window. -- Dan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 25, 2006 Report Share Posted May 25, 2006 Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " anabebe57 " <anabebe57@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , epston@ wrote: > > > > > > In a message dated 5/23/2006 7:34:51 PM Pacific Daylight Time, > > > anabebe57@ writes: > > > > > > > > > > > If we could ever be 'enlightened' once and for all, the 'game' > > would > > > > be finished, eh? ...And we wouldn't want THAT to happen, now > > would > > > > be. > > > > > > L.E: What is real does not need to be enlightened and since it > > includes all > > > that, is there is no game. Never was, never will be. Howling of > > the wolves, > > > chirping of the birds, buzzing of the bees, and a whole lot of > > mumbling. > > > > > > Love and Light, > > > > > > Larry > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 27, 2006 Report Share Posted May 27, 2006 In a message dated 5/24/2006 9:15:11 AM Pacific Daylight Time, dan330033 writes: > Nisargadatta , epston wrote: > > > >In a message dated 5/23/2006 7:34:51 PM Pacific Daylight Time, > >anabebe57 writes: > > > >> > >>If we could ever be 'enlightened' once and for all, the 'game' would > >>be finished, eh? ...And we wouldn't want THAT to happen, now would > >>be. > > > >L.E: What is real does not need to be enlightened and since it > includes all > >that, is there is no game. Never was, never will be. Howling of > the wolves, > >chirping of the birds, buzzing of the bees, and a whole lot of mumbling. > > > >Love and Light, > > > >Larry > > And meanwhile, various animal species are being made extinct left and > right. > > Hundreds of thousands of children abused, adults being sold and > exploited, wars being fought in dozens of countries -- manipulation, > violence, and deceit are the coin of the realm -- around the globe. > > And no, it's not just a story, and it's not loving and light-ful. > > People are indeed hurting themselves and others. It happens often, > across cultures, and it tends to escalate, and is escalating. > Spiritual talk doesn't exempt anyone. > > And one who understands, includes all this, as is. > > -- Dan > L.E: Yes Dan, I agree and so it is. This thin film, this skin of life around this sphere is full of terror, horror and suffering, and pleasures as well. Some can accept it all with no exceptions. Very few. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 29, 2006 Report Share Posted May 29, 2006 In a message dated 5/28/2006 6:27:38 PM Pacific Daylight Time, gdtige writes: > >>In a message dated 5/23/2006 7:34:51 PM Pacific > >Daylight Time, > >>>anabebe57 writes: > >>> > >>>> > >>>>If we could ever be 'enlightened' once and for > >all, the 'game' would > >>>>be finished, eh? ...And we wouldn't want THAT to > >happen, now would > >>>>be. > >>> > >>>L.E: What is real does not need to be enlightened > >and since it > >>includes all > >>>that, is there is no game. Never was, never will > >be. Howling of > >>the wolves, > >>>chirping of the birds, buzzing of the bees, and a > >whole lot of mumbling. > >>> > >>>Love and Light, > >>> > >>>Larry > >> > >>And meanwhile, various animal species are being > made > >extinct left and > >>right. > >> > >>Hundreds of thousands of children abused, adults > >being sold and > >>exploited, wars being fought in dozens of countries > >-- manipulation, > >>violence, and deceit are the coin of the realm -- > >around the globe. > >> > >>And no, it's not just a story, and it's not loving > >and light-ful. > >> > >>People are indeed hurting themselves and others. > It > >happens often, > >>across cultures, and it tends to escalate, and is > >escalating. > >>Spiritual talk doesn't exempt anyone. > >> > >>And one who understands, includes all this, as is. > >> > >>-- Dan > >> > >L.E: Yes Dan, I agree and so it is. This thin film, > >this skin of life around > >this sphere is full of terror, horror and suffering, > >and pleasures as well. > >Some can accept it all with no exceptions. Very > few. > >..................................... > >to accept it is to become Human, in its true sense > my > >dearest. > > > >Patricia > > > L.E: Just the converse my dear, or is it the obverse, > or just the other way > around. IMO you've got it completely backwards. Most > humans can't see it, > realize it, absorb it or even consider it: this horror > and suffering and pain, > Those who do and can, become transcendent, more than > human, and universal in > their vision. Expanded, enlightened, unified with the > Tao, at one with god > energy, etc. > > > and that is what I call being Human, Larry. > > Patricia L.E: So many animals. So few humans. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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