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--- pliantheart <illusyn a écrit :

 

 

 

Nisargadatta , " dan330033 "

<dan330033 wrote:

>

> Nisargadatta , " pliantheart "

<illusyn@>

> wrote, in part:

>

> > so, " not let go of " means persists or " sticks "

> >

> > what persists or " sticks " has an appearance of an

identity

> > " behind "

> >

> > but appearances are only appearances

> >

> > whether there is " letting go " or not, persistence

or not,

> > there IS NO ENTITY behind...

> >

> > so there is nothing to DO

> >

> > no need to even " let go " ...

> >

> > just seeing that it is only an appearance,

> > all this " I am this " , " I am that " , etc.

> >

> > ONLY APPEARANCE

> >

> > nothing more

>

> Well-said.

>

> And the persistance is evaluated subjectively.

>

> And the subject's location is only relative to the

sense of

> persistance of an image, sensation, or feeling.

>

> So, indeed, subject and object dissolve if

" perception " is understood,

> as does any sense of " dissolving " ...

>

> -- D.

 

wonderful...

 

words like this make it so easy

 

to just slip beneath the waves...

 

 

reminds me of a passage from Krishnamurti where

he points out that it is all there, plain in view,

nothing hidden...

 

and when so seen, as you say, nothing " holds up "

as truly persistent in character.

 

persistence = illusion

 

no persistence, no illusion

 

truly beholding with rapt attention what is,

no persistence

 

therefore, truly beholding with rapt attention

what(ever) is,

no illusion

 

and I wonder if some don't get too complicated

about " what is " ... as if they are willing to

pay complete attention to " what is " , but they

just don't know what " what is " really is!

 

so maybe good to clarify: what is = whatever presents

and with the timeframe as narrow as possible

 

if there is a " refresh " of attention, a re-attending

to what is anew, every second or so... that is pretty

good I'd say.

 

in other words, if the thought-flow is " interrupted "

every second or so... to take in anew, completely

freshly... what presents... what arises...

 

 

Bill

 

You are talking again about the attribut of truth.

It has no opposite because cannot be caught in the

frame of time.

When you are not, it is obviously shining, when you

are, it is <in the background>because carrying your

shadow.

Nevertheless, eternity crossing time in all its

splendor.

 

Patricia

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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