the Miracles of Jesus and others.......and common sense...very enlightening

[Guest guest]

It is said that many miracles happened in Jesus' life. They are the

same miracles which have been happening to many spiritual leaders

throughout time. For example, it is said he was able to walk on

water. It is not a fact, remember -- Jesus is not so foolish.....so

foolish as to walk on water. There is no need to walk on water. Then

what does it mean? It is a poetic expression, it is a metaphor. It

simply means he was able to do the impossible .

 

And what is the most impossible thing in the world? The most

impossible thing in the world is to transcend the world. The most

impossible thing in the world is to know oneself. The most impossible

thing in the world is to become utterly empty.

 

This is just metaphor, " walking on water " ; we shouldn't take this as

fact. All of the supposed miracles are poetic ways of saying certain

things. Jesus, Buddha and many other people lived on the earth and

yet they belonged not to the earth. They were not earthly people,

they were utterly unearthly.

 

Let's not be misguided by religious fanatics who go on emphasizing

that these metaphors are not metaphors but facts, that these poetic

expressions are not poetic expressions but part of history. Be a

little more poetic if you really want to understand the great

teachers.

 

Jesus is walking amongst the people and performing miracles. Suddenly

a man falls at his feet and says, " Lord Lord, cure me, cure me! "

 

" Calm down, son. Have faith and you will be cured. "

 

Jesus moves closer to the man and looks into his eyes, then backs

away and signals to Peter to come over. As Peter draws near, Jesus

whispers to him, " It's not going to work, Peter. Pretend we have to

go -- he's got cancer! "

 

The point of most teachers is to make people intelligent, not

believers. Jesus nor Buddha were out to create a relgion about

themselves. There are no miracles. There is only one miracle -- THE

miracle -- and that is your being utterly empty. The death of the

ego is the only miracle; if that happens you have known what eternity

is; you have gone beyond time.

[Guest guest]

Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 "

<Roberibus111 wrote:

>

> It is said that many miracles happened in Jesus' life. They are

the

> same miracles which have been happening to many spiritual leaders

> throughout time. For example, it is said he was able to walk on

> water. It is not a fact, remember -- Jesus is not so

foolish.....so

> foolish as to walk on water. There is no need to walk on water.

Then

> what does it mean? It is a poetic expression, it is a metaphor. It

> simply means he was able to do the impossible .

>

> And what is the most impossible thing in the world? The most

> impossible thing in the world is to transcend the world. The most

> impossible thing in the world is to know oneself. The most

impossible

> thing in the world is to become utterly empty.

>

> This is just metaphor, " walking on water " ; we shouldn't take this

as

> fact. All of the supposed miracles are poetic ways of saying

certain

> things. Jesus, Buddha and many other people lived on the earth and

> yet they belonged not to the earth. They were not earthly people,

> they were utterly unearthly.

>

> Let's not be misguided by religious fanatics who go on emphasizing

> that these metaphors are not metaphors but facts, that these

poetic

> expressions are not poetic expressions but part of history. Be a

> little more poetic if you really want to understand the great

> teachers.

>

> Jesus is walking amongst the people and performing miracles.

Suddenly

> a man falls at his feet and says, " Lord Lord, cure me, cure me! "

>

> " Calm down, son. Have faith and you will be cured. "

>

> Jesus moves closer to the man and looks into his eyes, then backs

> away and signals to Peter to come over. As Peter draws near, Jesus

> whispers to him, " It's not going to work, Peter. Pretend we have

to

> go -- he's got cancer! "

>

> The point of most teachers is to make people intelligent, not

> believers. Jesus nor Buddha were out to create a relgion about

> themselves. There are no miracles. There is only one miracle --

THE

> miracle -- and that is your being utterly empty. The death of the

> ego is the only miracle; if that happens you have known what

eternity

> is; you have gone beyond time.

>

 

 

 

Excellent post Robert.

 

All teachers who have become 'religions' created by the masses, the

followers, have said in one form/way or another:

 

I Am....

....We Are

One...

 

then rules were made, and the essence of their truth disappeared

into codes that only a few were 'chosen' to understand. And

followers of followers appeared as the perfect love Buddha and Jesus

and Mohammad taught became secondary to the 'religion' created by

their followers.

 

 

Blessings,

Ana

[Guest guest]

Nisargadatta , " anabebe57 " <anabebe57

wrote:

>

> Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 "

> <Roberibus111@> wrote:

> >

> > It is said that many miracles happened in Jesus' life. They are

> the

> > same miracles which have been happening to many spiritual leaders

> > throughout time. For example, it is said he was able to walk on

> > water. It is not a fact, remember -- Jesus is not so

> foolish.....so

> > foolish as to walk on water. There is no need to walk on water.

> Then

> > what does it mean? It is a poetic expression, it is a metaphor.

It

> > simply means he was able to do the impossible .

> >

> > And what is the most impossible thing in the world? The most

> > impossible thing in the world is to transcend the world. The most

> > impossible thing in the world is to know oneself. The most

> impossible

> > thing in the world is to become utterly empty.

> >

> > This is just metaphor, " walking on water " ; we shouldn't take this

> as

> > fact. All of the supposed miracles are poetic ways of saying

> certain

> > things. Jesus, Buddha and many other people lived on the earth

and

> > yet they belonged not to the earth. They were not earthly people,

> > they were utterly unearthly.

> >

> > Let's not be misguided by religious fanatics who go on

emphasizing

> > that these metaphors are not metaphors but facts, that these

> poetic

> > expressions are not poetic expressions but part of history. Be a

> > little more poetic if you really want to understand the great

> > teachers.

> >

> > Jesus is walking amongst the people and performing miracles.

> Suddenly

> > a man falls at his feet and says, " Lord Lord, cure me, cure me! "

> >

> > " Calm down, son. Have faith and you will be cured. "

> >

> > Jesus moves closer to the man and looks into his eyes, then backs

> > away and signals to Peter to come over. As Peter draws near,

Jesus

> > whispers to him, " It's not going to work, Peter. Pretend we have

> to

> > go -- he's got cancer! "

> >

> > The point of most teachers is to make people intelligent, not

> > believers. Jesus nor Buddha were out to create a relgion about

> > themselves. There are no miracles. There is only one miracle --

> THE

> > miracle -- and that is your being utterly empty. The death of

the

> > ego is the only miracle; if that happens you have known what

> eternity

> > is; you have gone beyond time.

> >

>

>

>

> Excellent post Robert.

>

> All teachers who have become 'religions' created by the masses, the

> followers, have said in one form/way or another:

>

> I Am....

> ...We Are

> One...

>

> then rules were made, and the essence of their truth disappeared

> into codes that only a few were 'chosen' to understand. And

> followers of followers appeared as the perfect love Buddha and

Jesus

> and Mohammad taught became secondary to the 'religion' created by

> their followers.

>

>

> Blessings,

> Ana

 

 

Thanks again Ana....and you are soooo right. Wealth and political

power are the true driving forces of those organized crime rings

known as the Churches.......the spirit isn't even a consideration

within those gangs. If it were... the hungry would be fed, the lonely

comforted, the needy assisted and on and onwards. It's incredible

that the founders of those so called religions were desperately

trying to get people to break away from the shameful hypocricy and

obvious miscarriages of spirit in the traditions they were born

in...only to have their followers go out and create even bigger and

more shameful and fraudulent constructions of properties and mortar

and marble and gold and silver and incense and bells and raiments of

kings for the officiators.....you know what we're talking about one

to another here. They were as you say all saying the same thing and

that was to discover the true wealth, kingdoms, way and life that is

each and every one of our birthrigts from the start.

 

Peace on Earth as it IS in Reality

.........bob